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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedikt View Post
    if yoaure over 65, no language test is required. ( though i honestly would not like to guess how it might be with a - new - immigrant... Sacharovo has their own laws. I live here 30 years, married, and speak and read and write the lingo well. so for me no test is required).
    I am doing at the moment my - never ending - Permanent Residence Permit, having a PRP before. On their Internet site THAT variant does not show. And i was quoted to need a ton of documents. Same by a male young employee. At the end i got to a - senior employee - and the lady told me for extending my PRP in need 5 documents. ( she wrote it down for me in her own handwriting. i still have the paper)
    AND she said, you DONT pay any money, not on the internet nor in cash, to any HELPERS....

    My original passport
    a copy and translation, INCLUDING ALL EMPTY PAGES, of my passport, and signed by a notary, that round stamo.
    -Anketta-, a one page affair
    photos, that have to be made to a specific specification. the studios know that.
    receit thati have paid 5000 rubles -gosposhlina, unfortunately can be paid n Sacharovpo only. they don't work with Sberkassa anymore...

    By the way they want to see all ORIGINAL documents, no copies of copies or the likes. They don't keep anything there. Just have a look and return it. The copies of my passport i made at home i ncolor, the translation bureau has only a black and white. There is NO law that says it MUST be color, .And since my passport has about 40 pages, i made copies on the left and right side of the paper.

    nothing else is needed. though once more. I would not like to guess what a - new -immigrant might need.
    if one does the medical tests, i definitely would suggest do it there at the center. costs 4100 rubles, but you get it that way the way they want it.
    i took it ( for nearly free) at -my- polyiclinics, took me 2 weeks to get everything together.

    so for the permanent PRP
    no medical tests,
    no language tests,
    no copy of ones birth certificate
    no copy of any -diploma-
    nothing...
    Bennie, is it possible to hire a specialist to do all this accumulation of documents and speed the process?

    Not exactly relevant, but when I went to open a business bank account, the bank gave me a list of 20 documents I would need. I gave to my office manager, she found an accountant, and they were able to gather all the documents and get everything notarized. Is there a company or person who specialize in doing this sort of tasks? Instead of doing everything yourself?
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    We made it and everything went smoothly. Thanks everyone for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInterocitor View Post
    Bennie, is it possible to hire a specialist to do all this accumulation of documents and speed the process?

    Not exactly relevant, but when I went to open a business bank account, the bank gave me a list of 20 documents I would need. I gave to my office manager, she found an accountant, and they were able to gather all the documents and get everything notarized. Is there a company or person who specialize in doing this sort of tasks? Instead of doing everything yourself?
    maybe when one is new in this parts of the world, or ahs no tome, a specialist for sure can help. But i ve been here 30 years, know where all the clinics are ( and the transport) and what to do. but like in this case,
    aids test you have to do yourself, no specialist is going to do it for you
    x ray you must be there yourself, not the specialist
    same for alco and narco test. YOU yourself have to be there in person.
    for the -kuskushka - ( psychological ) test, no specialist can do that for you.
    translation and -notarius- for your documents if needed,takes 5 minutes to hand i everything. and wait 2 or 3 days until it is done.
    photos, yo have to do with yo uown conterfei. not that of a specialist.

    there are places and times when or where a specialist could help. but there are also times when it is just a rip off.
    because when your docs are NOT i norder, the specialist still will keep the money. and YOU can start all over again.
    many years ago i had help to fill i nan application from a young lady who was studying russian language and that nlaw at the MGU.... The Inspector said, no this are not the correct word, closed his window. and i was left sitting there. So, what would a -specialist - do better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freud View Post
    We made it and everything went smoothly. Thanks everyone for your help!
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    [QUOTE=FatAndy;1507137]Welcome to our cozy Mordor! Have a рюмочка...

    а где же бородинский черный хлеб?
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    It was great seeing all the families of the village outside on May 1st. I was amazed at how many kids were playing outside.

    I think the wife can figure out the logistics of gathering the documents required for temporary residency. The problematic part is me managing to pass the language/history test. I googled and found some links to tests but not sure which is best. Do you guys have any links to practice tests that you think are best? Obviously, the closer the practice test is to the exam, the better. I've only got a little over a month to study so I need to focus on the specific material required.

    I just checked the day I got the results of the FBI background check - it was March 17th. So that leaves me with less than a month and a half to study. I usually do pretty good on tests but I'm not an auditory sort of person so I have a huge problem understanding when someone speaks. If a conversation is required then I may just be flat out of luck.

    The reason I feel I need TRP is because of the rule that you have to leave the country every 6 months. Obviously, that might be difficult with all the travel restrictions currently in place. I don't guess there's any chance Russia is going to waive these requirements due to the hardship it places on people? If I remember correctly, I don't think it's possible anymore to take a train to Finland and then return, right? I really don't want to fly to Turkey and back every 6 months.

    Is there a simple solution I am overlooking?

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    [QUOTE=Benedikt;1507146]
    Quote Originally Posted by FatAndy View Post
    Welcome to our cozy Mordor! Have a рюмочка...

    а где же бородинский черный хлеб?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freud View Post
    It was great seeing all the families of the village outside on May 1st. I was amazed at how many kids were playing outside.

    I think the wife can figure out the logistics of gathering the documents required for temporary residency. The problematic part is me managing to pass the language/history test. I googled and found some links to tests but not sure which is best. Do you guys have any links to practice tests that you think are best? Obviously, the closer the practice test is to the exam, the better. I've only got a little over a month to study so I need to focus on the specific material required.

    I just checked the day I got the results of the FBI background check - it was March 17th. So that leaves me with less than a month and a half to study. I usually do pretty good on tests but I'm not an auditory sort of person so I have a huge problem understanding when someone speaks. If a conversation is required then I may just be flat out of luck.

    The reason I feel I need TRP is because of the rule that you have to leave the country every 6 months. Obviously, that might be difficult with all the travel restrictions currently in place. I don't guess there's any chance Russia is going to waive these requirements due to the hardship it places on people? If I remember correctly, I don't think it's possible anymore to take a train to Finland and then return, right? I really don't want to fly to Turkey and back every 6 months.

    Is there a simple solution I am overlooking?
    You have a good Samsung Galaxy S10 so just check the Google Play store and you can find an app that will help you practice the test. For the speaking part, and I'm not joking learn to sing the Russian national anthem. My friends father told me this and since he was the head of the FMS at the time and his good friend was the head of testing I believe him. Most Russians can't even sing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedikt View Post
    maybe when one is new in this parts of the world, or ahs no tome, a specialist for sure can help. But i ve been here 30 years, know where all the clinics are ( and the transport) and what to do. but like in this case, aids test you have to do yourself, no specialist is going to do it for you
    x ray you must be there yourself, not the specialist
    same for alco and narco test. YOU yourself have to be there in person.
    for the -kuskushka - ( psychological ) test, no specialist can do that for you.
    translation and -notarius- for your documents if needed,takes 5 minutes to hand i everything. and wait 2 or 3 days until it is done.
    photos, yo have to do with yo uown conterfei. not that of a specialist.

    there are places and times when or where a specialist could help. but there are also times when it is just a rip off.
    because when your docs are NOT i norder, the specialist still will keep the money. and YOU can start all over again.
    many years ago i had help to fill i nan application from a young lady who was studying russian language and that nlaw at the MGU.... The Inspector said, no this are not the correct word, closed his window. and i was left sitting there. So, what would a -specialist - do better?
    What is the "psychological test" like? Interview? Or what questions does "the shrink" ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Wally View Post
    You have a good Samsung Galaxy S10 so just check the Google Play store and you can find an app that will help you practice the test. For the speaking part, and I'm not joking learn to sing the Russian national anthem. My friends father told me this and since he was the head of the FMS at the time and his good friend was the head of testing I believe him. Most Russians can't even sing it.
    Just go to a lot of basketball games, soon you will know the national anthem well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInterocitor View Post
    What is the "psychological test" like? Interview? Or what questions does "the shrink" ask?
    I did the psychological test. I went into a room with an elderly gentleman in an old, rumpled white coat, thick glasses, the works. He asked me two or three simple questions. I remember one of them, whether I was a heavy drinker. It was over in about a minute. He filled in a form, stamped it and that was it. Kind of fun.

    There was an interview during the language test. I was asked to describe my home city...not too challenging.

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    We found a place that prepares you for the language/history test required to get residency. My first class is tonight. After I pass the test, I will start taking Russian language lessons at the same place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freud View Post
    We found a place that prepares you for the language/history test required to get residency. My first class is tonight. After I pass the test, I will start taking Russian language lessons at the same place.
    Good on you! Sounds like fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freud View Post
    We found a place that prepares you for the language/history test required to get residency. My first class is tonight. After I pass the test, I will start taking Russian language lessons at the same place.
    Do they teach also how to assemble/disassemble/load nuclear reactor, feed domesticated brown bear and charge AK-74?
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