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    My daughter in London has COVID

    My daughter in London has COVID. She had COVID19 in April 2020, had the Sputnik jab within the past six months and recently had a Pfizer booster. Got COVID-19 at work, a restaurant, where 12 people got COVID-19. Of the 12, my daughter knows 10 were vaxxed with Pfizer, two jabs. Her boss came to work last week with a runny nose, sore throat and a slight cough. He felt a bit tired. He thought it was a cold and being a Russian workaholic with pofigism, he came to work anyway and probably infected everyone. Symptoms of my daughter and at least half of her colleagues are about the same, sore throat, congestion, some have a light cough, no temperature or a very low one, fatigue, achiness. These are the symptoms my daughter has, with no cough or temperature. She would get tested to find out if it is omnicron but doesn't want to be locked down longer than the 10 days she is now required to stay home.

    She has another friend in an apartment with two roommates who have also come down with COVID. Symptoms are the same, light. Both were vaxxed with Pfizer.

    All the infected restaurant workers are 40 and younger including my daughter's boss, and most are under 30.

    It spread immediately. Has to be omnicron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Wally View Post
    Pfizer is as Pfizer does.
    PFIZER has done nothing for this vaccine. it was developed in Germany by a little known company called -Biontech-. And the guy who did it was a German of a Muslim on top of it, of turkish migration background. Pfizer came in later, when the stuff was ready with its money and name. Pfizer is just the parent company. Same as Johnson&Johnson is the $$$ giver for a little known company called Janson (or Jansen) who did all the work.But did not have the cash, the name or facilities to come out -big-, And a Turkish Moslem_ Now THAT one for sure would not do... So quickly it was Pfizer only.

    But as it shows to xt tsis daughter, the most important thing was, they all were vaccinated. and fully vaccinated. it is well known that NO vaccine, also not Sputnik V or China's Cinovax give a 100 % protection.Also no the UK AstraZeneca or the much touted 1 shot Johnson&Johnson. Actually AZ is not being bought anymore by the authorities in the EU.and everyone who had the Oneshot Johnson, was NOT considered fully vaccinated and had to get a second shot.

    Vaccination for sure might give you the sniffles, ha headache, symtoms that are flu like. BUT it will keep you out of hospital or the undertakers showroom. That some people still need hospitalisation,still are dieing, is also a fact. So do people who run every year and get the flu vaccination. which by the way is a mx 40% effective.
    WHO is -evaluating Sputnik V and Chinas Cinovax. So much ahs been sold and used, they just can't ignore it anymore. Politice here and there, such is live, but finally it has stopped. because now also -others - have found out and have to admit the virus is here to stay. the pandemic will be over by next summer, or so the experts say. but the bug will be here -forever-. it will not go away. -herdimunity- as so many were crowing about is an utopia. they found out that now.it will not happen. happen will, either you are vaccinated, catch the bug, whatever variety is still to come.and recover . and as brutal as it sounds, you have died... i got my two shots and the booster. but do not think now i am -free and protected. and can do waht i want-. does not work that way anymore. and also here in Moscow, though i hope it will not happen, that Omicron will take over. and worse will come. hopefully not so many death. and hospitalisations. that Omicron bug seems to be a -lighter - version of Delta..I have seen to many ambulances around our buildings. With medical personnel all covered up, googles and what not. Don't need that anymore.
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    Ben, the Pfizer vaccine might even help you catch Covid, too many people who have taken it, get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Wally View Post
    Ben, the Pfizer vaccine might even help you catch Covid, too many people who have taken it, get it.
    Yup. Covid vaccine will not save people with pre-existing health problems.... even they are unlucky to catch pneumonia with it. Sure it may help reduce your chances of being hospitalized but that's no guarantee either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Wally View Post
    Ben, the Pfizer vaccine might even help you catch Covid, too many people who have taken it, get it.
    Uncle Wally, what you are saying simply isn't true. The idea that Pfizer might help you get COVID makes no sense.

    Don't believe the sources you are reading. Opposing vaxxing captures eyeballs on social media, and produces income. They (including some medical specialists) are lying to make money, causing people to die.

    While Pfizer and Sputnik V are not 100% protection, they come close and against this disease it pays to get all the protection you can get. I've had COVID-19 and it wasn't a light case. At one point, in my first week in the hospital, my condition got worse. It was very difficult to breath, a horrible experience. Luckily I avoided a respirator but it was under consideration. I also contracted a non-COVID virus, caused as an outcome of COVID. The docs patched me up and my pneumonia is now improving but my lungs might be scarred for life. I feel lucky to be alive and am kicking myself for not getting a Sputnik booster shot.

    Getting vaxxed is especially important for those over 60. I saw some elderly people in the COVID hospital who were really suffering, including an old man whom I shared a room with for the first two days I was in the hospital. He could barely breath, the poor guy, and was barely cognizant of what was going on around him. He collapsed on the floor and they took him to the emergency ward where he died. After they took him away, his mobile phone would ring, over and over; his family was frantically trying to reach him. I'll never forget how sad that was.

    I don't know about you, but being alive is about the most important thing I can think of. Maximizing the chances of staying that way by getting vaxxed seems like a good idea to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedikt View Post
    PFIZER has done nothing for this vaccine. it was developed in Germany by a little known company called -Biontech-. And the guy who did it was a German of a Muslim on top of it, of turkish migration background. Pfizer came in later, when the stuff was ready with its money and name. Pfizer is just the parent company. Same as Johnson&Johnson is the $$$ giver for a little known company called Janson (or Jansen) who did all the work.But did not have the cash, the name or facilities to come out -big-, And a Turkish Moslem_ Now THAT one for sure would not do... So quickly it was Pfizer only.

    But as it shows to xt tsis daughter, the most important thing was, they all were vaccinated. and fully vaccinated. it is well known that NO vaccine, also not Sputnik V or China's Cinovax give a 100 % protection.Also no the UK AstraZeneca or the much touted 1 shot Johnson&Johnson. Actually AZ is not being bought anymore by the authorities in the EU.and everyone who had the Oneshot Johnson, was NOT considered fully vaccinated and had to get a second shot.

    Vaccination for sure might give you the sniffles, ha headache, symtoms that are flu like. BUT it will keep you out of hospital or the undertakers showroom. That some people still need hospitalisation,still are dieing, is also a fact. So do people who run every year and get the flu vaccination. which by the way is a mx 40% effective.
    WHO is -evaluating Sputnik V and Chinas Cinovax. So much ahs been sold and used, they just can't ignore it anymore. Politice here and there, such is live, but finally it has stopped. because now also -others - have found out and have to admit the virus is here to stay. the pandemic will be over by next summer, or so the experts say. but the bug will be here -forever-. it will not go away. -herdimunity- as so many were crowing about is an utopia. they found out that now.it will not happen. happen will, either you are vaccinated, catch the bug, whatever variety is still to come.and recover . and as brutal as it sounds, you have died... i got my two shots and the booster. but do not think now i am -free and protected. and can do waht i want-. does not work that way anymore. and also here in Moscow, though i hope it will not happen, that Omicron will take over. and worse will come. hopefully not so many death. and hospitalisations. that Omicron bug seems to be a -lighter - version of Delta..I have seen to many ambulances around our buildings. With medical personnel all covered up, googles and what not. Don't need that anymore.
    Amen to this comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post
    Uncle Wally, what you are saying simply isn't true. The idea that Pfizer might help you get COVID makes no sense.

    Don't believe the sources you are reading. Opposing vaxxing captures eyeballs on social media, and produces income. They (including some medical specialists) are lying to make money, causing people to die.

    While Pfizer and Sputnik V are not 100% protection, they come close and against this disease it pays to get all the protection you can get. I've had COVID-19 and it wasn't a light case. At one point, in my first week in the hospital, my condition got worse. It was very difficult to breath, a horrible experience. Luckily I avoided a respirator but it was under consideration. I also contracted a non-COVID virus, caused as an outcome of COVID. The docs patched me up and my pneumonia is now improving but my lungs might be scarred for life. I feel lucky to be alive and am kicking myself for not getting a Sputnik booster shot.

    Getting vaxxed is especially important for those over 60. I saw some elderly people in the COVID hospital who were really suffering, including an old man whom I shared a room with for the first two days I was in the hospital. He could barely breath, the poor guy, and was barely cognizant of what was going on around him. He collapsed on the floor and they took him to the emergency ward where he died. After they took him away, his mobile phone would ring, over and over; his family was frantically trying to reach him. I'll never forget how sad that was.

    I don't know about you, but being alive is about the most important thing I can think of. Maximizing the chances of staying that way by getting vaxxed seems like a good idea to me.
    You got your Sputnik V 9 months before you got Covid, it only last 9 months before you need to get another shot, luckily you got Covid and beat it, now you should have good antibodies and are safe.

    Sorry but I read about studies from Israel (which has a very high vaccination rate, Gibraltar, 100% vaccination rate, and all have had high infection rates. Some even blame the vaccines for new variants, but not Sputnik V. You are very right, it's just as easy to buy a scientist/doctor than it is a politician or journalist, that's why I doubt CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC and FOX, how can you trust them if their sponsor is Pfizer? Find as many sources as you can, and make up your own mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post
    Amen to this comment.
    All of a sudden you found God?

    I guess near death experiences will do that.
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    I have believed in God all my life and was glad to have this belief during a few dark days in the hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Wally View Post
    You got your Sputnik V 9 months before you got Covid, it only last 9 months before you need to get another shot, luckily you got Covid and beat it, now you should have good antibodies and are safe.

    Sorry but I read about studies from Israel (which has a very high vaccination rate, Gibraltar, 100% vaccination rate, and all have had high infection rates. Some even blame the vaccines for new variants, but not Sputnik V. You are very right, it's just as easy to buy a scientist/doctor than it is a politician or journalist, that's why I doubt CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC and FOX, how can you trust them if their sponsor is Pfizer? Find as many sources as you can, and make up your own mind.
    This might be the study you are talking about. It shows a "waning of immunity" by Isreali scientists after the second shot of Pfizer. I see no sources saying the Pfizer vax causes COVID. Or perhaps that's not what you meant. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114228

    I never suggested you should fully believe the media outlets you suggested. I certainly don't but I try to read media on both sides of the political fence. Somewhere on both sides are glimmers of truth that need to be verified. There are many sources about COVID and vaccinations, hospitals, research institutes, medical specialists, unconnected to any media outlets. I find them helpful.

    For some reason, some media is seen by many as fake while other media as true, although all media is there for one reason, to make money and tell their listeners what they want to year even if they have to tell lies to do so. Right wing media, whether it is Fox News or social media, tell outright, blatant lies. Cross checking them as well is my suggestion plus find out what the other side is saying, to find those glimmers of truth. And those in the KGB (FSB) say, trust but verify.

    I don't feel safe from Omnicron, due to my daughter's experience and I cannot get COVID again. I am being very cautious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post
    This might be the study you are talking about. It shows a "waning of immunity" by Isreali scientists after the second shot of Pfizer. I see no sources saying the Pfizer vax causes COVID. Or perhaps that's not what you meant. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114228

    I never suggested you should believe the media outlets you suggested. I, for one, read both sides of the political fence. Somewhere on both sides are glimmers of truth that need to be verified. There are many sources about COVID and vaccinations, hospitals, research institutes, medical specialists, unconnected to any media outlets. I find them helpful.

    For some reason, some media is seen by many as fake while other media as true, although all media is there for one reason, to make money and tell their listeners what they want to year even if they have to tell lies to do so. Right wing media, whether it is Fox News or social media, tell outright, blatant lies. Cross checking them as well is my suggestion plus find out what the other side is saying, to find those glimmers of truth. And those in the KGB (FSB) say, trust but verify.

    I don't feel safe from Omnicron, due to my daughter's experience and I cannot get COVID again. I am being very cautious.
    That is one study, but there are more. Yes, you never said we should believe one study over another, it's just your belief that the US government wouldn't do something bad, (Indians blankets, blacks with syphilis, crack in black neighborhoods)

    There is some media/journalists, that want to get to the truth, if they are right or not is a different question. Knowing what I know, this was all planned, sometimes you need to go with your gut feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post
    I have believed in God all my life and was glad to have this belief during a few dark days in the hospital.
    Well I glad you never use that as your whole base.
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    God bless your daughter, xt.
    I think we all have to go through this, and there will practically be no such thing as having NOT gone through covid, one way or another. I'm afraid that is the only way through this.

    I still think the people who ordered and arranged "gain of function" for this should be shot (or hung), after a fair trial.

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