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    Quote Originally Posted by americaninmoscow View Post
    ...

    (.....s basically weasal words and mainstream media summed it up differently and ran with that)

    So, here is the "fact check" but as you can see, the denial is there, but it doesn't really paint a very broad accurate picture..
    So, I read this earlier today on Drudge, and although the headline moved off the page, it went something like - "Florida man fights with jailer while screaming hail Trump"

    Sounds pretty good, right? But it gets better.

    Of course, the guy was young, and white. SO, let's take a look ....


    Man, 25, In Epic Post-Nuptial Meltdown
    Newlywed scuffled with jailers, declared "All hail Donald Trump"

    Attachment 34445

    So, when you look at it you immediately think the guy is a lunatic and he supports Trump. BUT!!!!!!!

    When you get to the very, very last paragraph, you can read - ...who lives about 15 miles from Vero Beach, is a registered Democrat, according to Florida voter records.

    And that is when you realize that the story is probably the opposite of you were lead to believe.

    More than likely, the guy, who was on drugs, was angry that the police had arrested him and was trying to provoke them via the "thin blue line" and say stupid stuff about Trump, cuz we all know every single police officer is not only a rascist but a literal nazi AND!!!!!! they all support Trump.

    But you would never get that far if you

    A) didn't have an open mind
    B) read all the way down to the bottom
    C) actually think about you just read
    D) think about the trick that was just pulled.
    E) realize that media does this, ALOT

    So, when I read those fact check stories, I just put on my editor hat and ask myself what they are really, really trying to say....

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documen...ewlywed-375892

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    [QUOTE=americaninmoscow;1501397]
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    Outrage has spread online that Afghan refugees entering the United States will receive the drug ivermectin although it does not have U.S. approval as a COVID-19 treatment. However, the posts miss the vital context that refugees are given ivermectin for infections unrelated to the novel coronavirus.

    .......

    Furthermore, if you look at what doctors are doing in India and Africa, you can see that those that prescribe it for their patients have a massively lower rate.... and lets not forget about joe rogan, who is worth a bazillion dollars and is the currently cool guy sticking his finger in the eye of the man - he just "cured" himself of covid after 2 days. and now he is the most hated man in showbiz....

    This is from Robert Malone MD, the guy who supposedly invented the mRNA type vax....

    Screenshot 2021-09-05 at 10.38.23.jpg

    and his twitter profile...

    Screenshot 2021-09-05 at 10.38.33.png

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    an interesting and possibly true story about Peru....

    Screenshot 2021-09-05 at 10.44.19.png

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    [QUOTE=americaninmoscow;1501404]
    Quote Originally Posted by americaninmoscow View Post


    This is from Robert Malone MD, the guy who supposedly invented the mRNA type vax....
    Here is the study behind that graph....

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...377v1.full.pdf

    and here is an interesting point...



    Some researchers say that the short life expectancy and the fact that 3% of the population is over 65 years old may be a reason for COVID-19 not exploding infections in Africa.

    So, now the problem is clear.

    Basically, we need to get rid of old people. Anyone over the age of 55 is suspect (sus, as the kids these days say it). And should be put out to pasture.

    Besides, we, the young, wouldn't be so burdened if we didn't have to pay into the pension system for those that are killing us all. Besides, it's not like the old didn't wreck the world we live in anyways, so why should we support them? They made their bed, now they can lie in it (forever).

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    The entrenched and corrupt medical establishment has no credibility. It is now the "Media-Medical-Industrial Complex" backed by the power of if National War Departments, aiming their weapons at their own citizens.

    The medi-crats have tasted absolute power and are now absolutely corrupt.

    How many people die, or if Western Civilization swirls down into cesspool, or children are forced to wear masks, crime doubles, suicide goes off the charts, racism becomes a way of life, none of this matters to them.

    Josep Broz and Adolf would be in awe of BIg Medicine, Big Social Media and Big Pharma, making $Billions off vaccines and fear, while appointing themselves world dictators.

    The CDC medical bureaucracy is giving orders about landlord-renter financial relations? What property owner is even going to want to rent a house or a flat now?
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    I found this to be fascinating.
    You must be on to something when our enemies in the media praise a doctor for his success and then silence him regarding his methods.
    https://youtu.be/frwkkeH6mwM


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    Pfizer Releases Brand New, Never-Before-Seen Drug 'Pfivermectin'

    "U.S.—After several successful rounds of trials and a quick overnight approval from the FDA, Pfizer proudly announced they will be releasing a brand new, never-before-seen COVID drug "Pfivermectin."

    "It's important to understand that this drug is nothing like Ivermectin, even though Pfivermectin rhymes with Ivermectin and it pretty much does the exact same thing," said Pfizer CEO Hans Pfizer. "Everyone knows Ivermectin is a widely discredited horse drug, and ours is not. Very important distinction there."

    Experts say that taking two doses of Pfivermectin every day at the first sign of COVID symptoms could lessen the severity and duration of the infection. Ivermectin will do the same thing, except it may also turn you into a horse and make everyone laugh at you. Not good!

    A Pfizer spokesman also confirmed that their drug will be approximately 30,000% more expensive than Ivermectin.

    "Don't worry about the cost," said the spokesman. "The government will cover the cost. Besides, that's a small price to pay to not turn into a horse!" "

    Neigh! Neigh! Neigh!

    Also...an industry rumor...Merck is preparing to release another wonder drug - Merckchloroquine, 100% effective against covid19 and only $15k a dose
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    I can't believe that after this whole hoax and fake news spread some people still believe the news media.
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    there is or was(?) an article on yuhuu and USA woman suing a hospital because the doctors there refused to treat her, wich Corona sick, husband with Ivermectin. i found another link, where it describes the lower court judge ruled in favour for the treatment. but a higher court judge was against it.https://www.dailywire.com/news/judge...ith-ivermectin
    for sure a doctor can not be forced to use anything that has not been approved by the ,whoever does the ok there, to be used on humans.
    BUT, at least that says the law i nAustria and Germany, if the patient is in such a bad shape that -normal - medication does not work anymore, the doctor has the right to try anything else, even if the stuff might be controversial or not registered yet. Though for sure next of kin would have to sign a waiver, holding the hospital or doctor not responsible , if the stuff does not work or will show side effects?
    the patient in the USA,will he live? well, the hospital says he -is feeling better already- without Ivermectin... Wonder if the -first doses - Ivermectin did the trick? or whatever else the doctors were using?
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    I've been following closely the ivermectin issue and early treatment recommendations from the early-treatment-proponents (e.g., FLCCC, https://covid19criticalcare.com/) for about a month now.

    The US-based (includes FDA, CDC, NIH, WHO) all-out assault on ivermectin, which has been picked up and echoed gleefully by the media, and indeed against any early treatment protocol (earlier it was hydroxychloroquine they were railing against, which while it appeared somewhat effective, apparently is not as effective as ivermectin), is probably one of the greatest crimes against humanity in our lifetimes.

    If by some miracle a mass rollout of ivermectin is successful against the blockade and proves effective within the US, then heads literally need to roll. We must convene a Covid-"Nuremburg" trial and gas all those who prevented wide adoption of a life-saving treatment (assuming it does work).

    Follow the links on the FLCCC site ("Totality of evidence" paper), watch their videos. These are not quacks, but top-rate, highly accredited, highly published, experienced clinical doctors who have front-line experience treating covid. I trust and listen to the doctors whose motivation is to save lives, who are searching, trying, DOING something, not just sending their patients home until their lips turn blue then put them on a ventilator until they die.
    The FDA and their echo-chamber media are spewing total absolute crap about ivermectin, and call the people taking it "horse-paste eaters." It is pure fabrication and propaganda at its finest. Read for yourself the long pedigree of ivermectin, and all the research papers describing its multiple ANTI-VIRAL mechanisms, including interfering with covid's binding to cells.

    With all the FUD it is difficult to ascertain the truth. Many of the trials supporting ivermectin use come from outside the US, and American MDs and scientists are notorious for their "not invented here" bias in terms of medical information from outside the US. While a layman, I do have a brain, and the "totality of the evidence" clearly supports AT LEAST TRYING ivermectin on a widespread basis.

    India, Mexico, Peru, other countries, in either internal states or country-wide, have made ivermectin available as part of a treatment kit for newly-infected people, and their households. The anecdotal data indicates VERY STRONG signals that it has helped massively.

    The ivory tower "doctors" and medical/research scientists blather about "we need more Random Controlled Trials." Bullsh*t, this is a crisis, we do NOT need to precisely identify exactly which medication at exactly which dose is effective. Just roll it out as has been done in other countries, at dosages suggested by the FLCCC physicians. It is already proven safe over 40 years of use an 4 billion doses administered, as described in its history, it is likely safer than aspirin. Something like 20 people have died in FORTY YEARS of ivermectin use while hundreds die every year from things like aspirin and tylenol.


    What is so hard to understand? If it works, using it could possibly largely defeat covid, and ease a great deal of suffering. It if doesn't work, NO HARM DONE. This logic seems entirely lost on the leadership.

    It's like, they WANT people to be sick, suffer, and die, covid to mutate and last forever, and people to take endless booster after booster ad infinitum [yeah, I know...]!

    On another note, has anybody found a source of ivermectin within Russia? I've only been able to find a liquid product for animals (Ивермек), and it's not clear just what else is in that (vitamin E, but others?). It's (ivermectin, I mean, the human form) clearly something that should be in everybody's medicine cabinet, just in case. I've found an Indian producer who supposedly ships to Russia, but I suspect importing pharmaceuticals is illegal, does anybody have experience with that?
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    How about NY, pushing to fire all health workers who reject the jab?

    America is being ruled by its enemies, the enemies of the ordinary American. I hope people recover their heritage and rise up and throw the bums out on the street. No need to wait for November. Tomorrow would do nicely. But being enslaved is easier, especially if they keep giving you a minimum of bread and circuses.

    And Nuremburg II for those who arranged and paid for the virus; "Gain-of function" to enable it to do what it is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusmeister View Post
    How about NY, pushing to fire all health workers who reject the jab?

    America is being ruled by its enemies, the enemies of the ordinary American. I hope people recover their heritage and rise up and throw the bums out on the street. No need to wait for November. Tomorrow would do nicely. But being enslaved is easier, especially if they keep giving you a minimum of bread and circuses.

    And Nuremburg II for those who arranged and paid for the virus; "Gain-of function" to enable it to do what it is doing.
    Not that there is ever any proper explanation for tyranny, but the "reasoning" behind the "must get jabbed" is right out of Idiocracy (to "save" everyone else, even though the shots prevent neither infection nor transmission). They might as well be explaining, "because it's got electrolytes!" It would make more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post
    Not that there is ever any proper explanation for tyranny, but the "reasoning" behind the "must get jabbed" is right out of Idiocracy (to "save" everyone else, even though the shots prevent neither infection nor transmission). They might as well be explaining, "because it's got electrolytes!" It would make more sense.
    That's just what they are saying, it got electrolytes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post
    I've been following closely the ivermectin issue and early treatment recommendations from the early-treatment-proponents (e.g., FLCCC, https://covid19criticalcare.com/) for about a month now.

    The US-based (includes FDA, CDC, NIH, WHO) all-out assault on ivermectin, which has been picked up and echoed gleefully by the media, and indeed against any early treatment protocol (earlier it was hydroxychloroquine they were railing against, which while it appeared somewhat effective, apparently is not as effective as ivermectin), is probably one of the greatest crimes against humanity in our lifetimes.

    If by some miracle a mass rollout of ivermectin is successful against the blockade and proves effective within the US, then heads literally need to roll. We must convene a Covid-"Nuremburg" trial and gas all those who prevented wide adoption of a life-saving treatment (assuming it does work).

    Follow the links on the FLCCC site ("Totality of evidence" paper), watch their videos. These are not quacks, but top-rate, highly accredited, highly published, experienced clinical doctors who have front-line experience treating covid. I trust and listen to the doctors whose motivation is to save lives, who are searching, trying, DOING something, not just sending their patients home until their lips turn blue then put them on a ventilator until they die.
    The FDA and their echo-chamber media are spewing total absolute crap about ivermectin, and call the people taking it "horse-paste eaters." It is pure fabrication and propaganda at its finest. Read for yourself the long pedigree of ivermectin, and all the research papers describing its multiple ANTI-VIRAL mechanisms, including interfering with covid's binding to cells.

    With all the FUD it is difficult to ascertain the truth. Many of the trials supporting ivermectin use come from outside the US, and American MDs and scientists are notorious for their "not invented here" bias in terms of medical information from outside the US. While a layman, I do have a brain, and the "totality of the evidence" clearly supports AT LEAST TRYING ivermectin on a widespread basis.

    India, Mexico, Peru, other countries, in either internal states or country-wide, have made ivermectin available as part of a treatment kit for newly-infected people, and their households. The anecdotal data indicates VERY STRONG signals that it has helped massively.

    The ivory tower "doctors" and medical/research scientists blather about "we need more Random Controlled Trials." Bullsh*t, this is a crisis, we do NOT need to precisely identify exactly which medication at exactly which dose is effective. Just roll it out as has been done in other countries, at dosages suggested by the FLCCC physicians. It is already proven safe over 40 years of use an 4 billion doses administered, as described in its history, it is likely safer than aspirin. Something like 20 people have died in FORTY YEARS of ivermectin use while hundreds die every year from things like aspirin and tylenol.


    What is so hard to understand? If it works, using it could possibly largely defeat covid, and ease a great deal of suffering. It if doesn't work, NO HARM DONE. This logic seems entirely lost on the leadership.

    It's like, they WANT people to be sick, suffer, and die, covid to mutate and last forever, and people to take endless booster after booster ad infinitum [yeah, I know...]!

    On another note, has anybody found a source of ivermectin within Russia? I've only been able to find a liquid product for animals (Ивермек), and it's not clear just what else is in that (vitamin E, but others?). It's (ivermectin, I mean, the human form) clearly something that should be in everybody's medicine cabinet, just in case. I've found an Indian producer who supposedly ships to Russia, but I suspect importing pharmaceuticals is illegal, does anybody have experience with that?
    That's what I'm saying! Just you said it so much better!

    Yes the US government wants people to be sick, they want people to die that's why they invested so much money in it. They want people to live in fear so they can take your rights away and give themselves more power.
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