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    article: Biden tells Putin the U.S. will take ‘any necessary action’ after latest ransomware attack, White House says

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...0dd_story.html

    This IS getting ridiculous. Russia is becoming the Somalia of the tech world.

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    This IS getting ridiculous. Russia is becoming the Somalia of the tech world.[/QUOTE]

    the article says -if we ( Biden) give enough information ,Putin must act. Anyone EVER seen such information? with proof that it IS from Russia?
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    As long as hackers were not associated with nations, no one seriously proposed to do anything. They are associating the hackers with Russia as a nation, with no visible basis for doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusmeister View Post
    As long as hackers were not associated with nations, no one seriously proposed to do anything. They are associating the hackers with Russia as a nation, with no visible basis for doing so.

    if i am a hacker wouldn't i use a VPN where -no one - can find me? or are they so stupid and use a computer with a russian IP address?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedikt View Post


    if i am a hacker wouldn't i use a VPN where -no one - can find me? or are they so stupid and use a computer with a russian IP address?
    Most use TOR, but those with the capabilities can probably trace back to the source, plus investigators will identify patterns, methods and other technical indicators from the modus operandi which will give them a good idea from where the attack originated.
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    Trusting the New York Times to tell the truth is like trusting your money with a crack addict. If their "facts" correspond to reality, then it's solely by accident.

    The Slimes has been a mouthpiece for the Left for decades. Anti-white (Russia is white), anti-male, anti-religious, anti-Christian, anti-business, anti-prosperity, divisive, intolerant and non-inclusive. In other words, a bunch of out-orf-control, amoral literary bigots, spreading fear and anger, promulgating hate speech.

    If BiteMe has proof that Putin is behind the cyberattacks, then where is it? The NYT "unnamed sources." It's classified, you just have to trust them, that the FBI, NSA and CIA would tell the truth, after lying to you 1000 times.

    Even the crap media could not ignore the fact that the ransom on the Pipeline cyber attack was paid to hackers located in CALIFORNIA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swampwiz View Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...0dd_story.html

    This IS getting ridiculous. Russia is becoming the Somalia of the tech world.
    The Washington Post has contracts with the CIA and Amazon also works with the CIA on cloud services so I would take anything they say with a grain of salt. I would wait for some evidence to be shown because it's very easy to accuse someone but more difficult to prove it. All the recent hacking has used a program that was made by the NSA and leaked on the dark web, this could be a way to cover their own tracks. It's funny how most the bitcoin from the pipeline hack was recovered by the FBI. They want you to believe that these guys were smart enough to hack a pipeline but not smart enough to put the bitcoin in a secure wallet. Like most everything else the FBI, CIA or NSA says it doesn't make a lot of sense, but lies never do. I would never believe anything the Washington Post writes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TolkoRaz View Post
    Most use TOR, but those with the capabilities can probably trace back to the source, plus investigators will identify patterns, methods and other technical indicators from the modus operandi which will give them a good idea from where the attack originated.
    Did your FBI buddies tell you that? There is no way to tell where a hack came from if the hacker is any good. If you're dumb enough to use a VPN you deserve to get caught. A VPN will cover you as far as Netflix is concerned but the VPN company knows who you are and will reveal that to the police if you commit a crime. F,**k the FBI! They're a bunch of criminals themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusmeister View Post
    As long as hackers were not associated with nations, no one seriously proposed to do anything. They are associating the hackers with Russia as a nation, with no visible basis for doing so.
    The hackers are based in Russia. Like I had said, this is like the pirates from Somalia, a weak state that cannot control its criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Wally View Post
    Did your FBI buddies tell you that? There is no way to tell where a hack came from if the hacker is any good. If you're dumb enough to use a VPN you deserve to get caught. A VPN will cover you as far as Netflix is concerned but the VPN company knows who you are and will reveal that to the police if you commit a crime. F,**k the FBI! They're a bunch of criminals themselves.
    So are you trying to say that the hackers are not from Russia, but are using a VPN to make it look like they're from Russia? That makes absolutely no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInterocitor View Post
    Trusting the New York Times to tell the truth is like trusting your money with a crack addict. If their "facts" correspond to reality, then it's solely by accident.

    The Slimes has been a mouthpiece for the Left for decades. Anti-white (Russia is white), anti-male, anti-religious, anti-Christian, anti-business, anti-prosperity, divisive, intolerant and non-inclusive. In other words, a bunch of out-orf-control, amoral literary bigots, spreading fear and anger, promulgating hate speech.

    If BiteMe has proof that Putin is behind the cyberattacks, then where is it? The NYT "unnamed sources." It's classified, you just have to trust them, that the FBI, NSA and CIA would tell the truth, after lying to you 1000 times.

    Even the crap media could not ignore the fact that the ransom on the Pipeline cyber attack was paid to hackers located in CALIFORNIA.
    No one is saying that Putin is *behind* the attacks. But it would seem that if he wanted to crack down on them, he could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampwiz View Post
    No one is saying that Putin is *behind* the attacks.
    In the disUnited States, EVERY ideologue is claiming Russia is behind 100% guilty - ranging across the political spectrum - from the loony-leftist bigots of the New York Times and Jeff-Bezos' Washington Compost, to the Right-wing talk show hosts like Mark Levin, who has had a Russian bug up his butt for decades.

    But it would seem that if he wanted to crack down on them, he could.
    Your second sentence contradicts the first. If VVP, alone among all Russians, had enough responsibility to be able to shut down Russian hacking, then he would also be the sole person to be able to organize and ramp it up.

    As to the "cyber attacks," they may be real or they may just be some propaganda promulgated by the intelligence agencies, which agencies are well-known to be deceptive, covert and serial liars. Thery have a history of planting provocative lies to incite ethnic conflicts and to insure their continuing job security and paychecks. Who would need a CIA, NSA or KGB if we all trusted one another and were able to communicate with one another? The spies would be out looking for a real job, where they contributed to the economy, rather than conspiring to destroy economies by engendering wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swampwiz View Post
    The hackers are based in Russia.
    And you get this information from your reliable source.,..????

    Like I had said, this is like the pirates from Somalia, a weak state that cannot control its criminals.
    The only "weak state" I see that refuses to control its criminals is the USA, where elitist university-trained social scientists justify and encourage street mobs to loot, burn, assault and steal.
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    Swamp-Meister, here is direct from VVP desk at kremlin.ru:

    Telephone conversation with US President Joseph Biden

    Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States Joseph Biden.

    July 9, 202121:20

    The presidents continued their dialogue on ensuring information security and countering cybercrime, which they started at the Russia-US summit in Geneva.

    In the context of recent reports on a series of cyberattacks ostensibly made from Russian territory, Vladimir Putin noted that despite Russia’s willingness to curb criminal manifestations in the information space through a concerted effort, no inquiries on these issues have been received from US agencies in the last month. At the same time, considering the scale and seriousness of the challenges in this area, Russia and the US must maintain permanent, professional and non-politicised cooperation. This must be conducted through specialised information exchange channels between the authorised government agencies, through bilateral judicial mechanisms and while observing the provisions of international law.


    In other words, while Washington has been complaining about cyberattacks and accusing Russia, Washington has not even bothered to communicate with anyone in Russia about the problem.

    How do you solve a problem and reach agreements or even understanding with another person, when you refuse to even communicate with the other person (or in this case, communicate with the other country)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by swampwiz View Post
    So are you trying to say that the hackers are not from Russia, but are using a VPN to make it look like they're from Russia? That makes absolutely no sense.
    Why does it "make no sense"? With out an enemy NATO makes no sense, no reason to spend $800 billion dollars every year.

    You do understand that the program used to hack was made by the NSA and then leaked on the dark web right? It makes for a good cover, the NSA can just say it wasn't us while still using it.

    It is just unbelievable that you still trust the US government after them lying into wars, illegal occupation of Syria and stealing their oil and grain while blocking aid to rebuild their country after a US terrorist supported war.
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