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    Quote Originally Posted by americaninmoscow View Post
    Bennie,vi can't read German, what does this say??
    https://www.uni-due.de/2021-06-18-st...-von-pcr-tests

    Ergebnisse allein ungeeignet als Grundlage für Pandemie-Maßnahmen
    18.06.2021
    Forschende der Medizinischen Fakultät der UDE weisen im renommierten Journal of Infection* darauf hin, dass die Ergebnisse von RT-PCR-Tests allein eine zu geringe Aussagekraft haben, um damit Maßnahmen zur Pandemiebekämpfung zu begründen. Gemäß ihrer Untersuchung beweisen positive Testergebnisse nicht hinreichend, dass mit SARS-CoV-2 Infizierte andere Personen mit dem Coronavirus anstecken können. Zusammen mit Wissenschaftler:innen der Universität Münster und dem MVZ Labor Münster hatten sie zuvor rund 190.000 Ergebnisse von mehr als 160.000 Menschen dahingehend ausgewertet.
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    Results alone unsuitable as a basis for pandemic measures
    by Martin Rolshoven 06/18/2021
    In the renowned Journal of Infection *, researchers from the Medical Faculty of the UDE point out that the results of RT-PCR tests alone are insufficiently meaningful to justify measures to combat pandemics. According to their investigation, positive test results do not sufficiently prove that people infected with SARS-CoV-2 can infect other people with the coronavirus. Together with scientists from the University of Münster and the MVZ Labor Münster, they had previously evaluated around 190,000 results from more than 160,000 people.

    The RT-PCR test technique is considered the gold standard when it comes to detecting an infection with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. It can only be carried out in specialized facilities. During the pandemic, the results of corona tests using RT-PCR technology were and will be used to determine the number of nationwide new infections per 100,000 inhabitants (incidence).

    This incidence value in turn forms an important basis for the federal and state governments to justify anti-corona measures, for example contact restrictions or curfews. However, the research teams from Essen and Münster question this based on their data analysis. "According to our study, a positive RT-PCR test alone is not sufficient evidence that those tested can also transmit the coronavirus to other people," says first author Prof. Dr. Andreas Stang, Director of the Institute for Medical Informatics, Biometry and Epidemiology (IMIBE) at the Essen University Hospital. "The number of SARS-CoV-2 positive testers calculated at the end should therefore not be used as a basis for pandemic control measures such as quarantine, isolation or lockdown."

    The authors therefore advise collecting or using data from other areas to assess the pandemic situation. "For example, reliable information on intensive care bed occupancy and mortality, i.e. the respective number of deaths in connection with COVID-19," suggests epidemiologist Prof. Stang, would be more suitable. In his area of ​​expertise, the consequences of epidemics on societies are examined.

    The research team also talks about the possibility of improving the informative value of the RT-PCR value in future assessments of the pandemic situation by including the so-called cycle threshold value (Ct value). The number, also known as the threshold cycle value, can be used to make statements about the risk of infection by people who have tested positive. If the Ct value of those who tested positive is 25 or higher, it is currently assumed that they are no longer contagious because the viral load is too low. “On average, around 60% of those tested with COVID-19 symptoms were found to have such high CT values; in weeks 10 to 19 it was even 78% who were very probably no longer contagious, ”emphasizes Prof. Stang. "Querying the COVID-19 symptoms of those tested would also help,

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    I have been a member of this forum for VERY long, more than a decade, and I respect and value the opinions of most on here, which makes it all the more shocking and, frankly, disgusting that so many of you have bought into the fear porn.

    I guess your cherublic, childlike trust in the government NOW is because these are HEALTH departments and not TAX, SCHOOLING, or BALLOT/OPPOSITION PARTY outfits that are doing the lying.

    Or, maybe everyone's really scared of dying, and now I see how many of you are closer to sixty than I first imagined, but, are you even aware of the fact that even the OFFICIAL GUBMINT FIGURES show that you need to be over sixty-five before you really need to think about worrying (and even then...)?

    Or, maybe it would help you to think in metaphors; since many of you are two decades older than me, were YOU (much like my mom and her acquaintances were) buying up bottles of water in anticipation of Y2K problems, thanks to THAT fear porn of the day?? If not, why not; has age made you less critical and more fearful of death, and trusting of authorities in your thinking?


    As I said in the beginning, I've always valued and been thankful for the opinion- and advice-sharing of most on this forum, so your wholesale buying into this profitable fear porn has me shocked. Wake up, you pathetic Western cucks, lol!

    Please read this article, it's a must-read IMHO and shows how dangerous/unwise/unneeded the vaccines (they're actually injections, but I don't want to spook you away too soon) are, even without them needing to be part of some huge, wacky, globalist takeover, as America in Moscow somewhat kookily intoned earlier today:
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242736

    (Although, to American's credit, I should say that Sobyanin's 180degree change in policy from what Putin announced in late May is VERY suspect; perhaps you Russians have another upending of your leaders from the inside going on - I'm praying for you all to win this fight!)

    And for any of those lurking in the shadows and reading my posts (not much direct interaction with them), READ and SHARE this with friends and family, too, ESPECIALLY if you or they are considering the vaccine for the virus that is turning out in fact to be very similar to the damn flu.

    C'mon, Expaters, quit playing along with this fairy tale. Grow the heck up!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicklcool View Post
    I have been a member of this forum for VERY long, more than a decade, and I respect and value the opinions of most on here, which makes it all the more shocking and, frankly, disgusting that so many of you have bought into the fear porn.

    I guess your cherublic, childlike trust in the government NOW is because these are HEALTH departments and not TAX, SCHOOLING, or BALLOT/OPPOSITION PARTY outfits that are doing the lying.

    Or, maybe everyone's really scared of dying, and now I see how many of you are closer to sixty than I first imagined, but, are you even aware of the fact that even the OFFICIAL GUBMINT FIGURES show that you need to be over sixty-five before you really need to think about worrying (and even then...)?

    Or, maybe it would help you to think in metaphors; since many of you are two decades older than me, were YOU (much like my mom and her acquaintances were) buying up bottles of water in anticipation of Y2K problems, thanks to THAT fear porn of the day?? If not, why not; has age made you less critical and more fearful of death, and trusting of authorities in your thinking?


    As I said in the beginning, I've always valued and been thankful for the opinion- and advice-sharing of most on this forum, so your wholesale buying into this profitable fear porn has me shocked. Wake up, you pathetic Western cucks, lol!

    Please read this article, it's a must-read IMHO and shows how dangerous/unwise/unneeded the vaccines (they're actually injections, but I don't want to spook you away too soon) are, even without them needing to be part of some huge, wacky, globalist takeover, as America in Moscow somewhat kookily intoned earlier today:
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242736

    (Although, to American's credit, I should say that Sobyanin's 180degree change in policy from what Putin announced in late May is VERY suspect; perhaps you Russians have another upending of your leaders from the inside going on - I'm praying for you all to win this fight!)

    And for any of those lurking in the shadows and reading my posts (not much direct interaction with them), READ and SHARE this with friends and family, too, ESPECIALLY if you or they are considering the vaccine for the virus that is turning out in fact to be very similar to the damn flu.

    C'mon, Expaters, quit playing along with this fairy tale. Grow the heck up!!
    I'm sorry mate, but it is a world wide takeover.

    Belarus, Sweden and Nicaragua are the only countries that come to mind that haven't recognized this virus and enforced lockdowns.

    Belarus and a few African leaders said that they were approached and offered a lot of money to lock their countries down. They refused.

    Furthermore, the science and facts just don't add up, and neither does the response. Something else is going on here.

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    We have about a year or less until the digital covid passport system is implemented.

    At first, tests and papers will be ok, but some big scandal and forgery will lead to an outbreak and a big push will ensure that the move to digital passports will make everyone safe.

    We will all have to have it within 3 years.

    But by then, most will want it or already have it- to get into bars, concerts, sports games, etc. Basically, if you are social, u need to have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by americaninmoscow View Post
    We have about a year or less until the digital covid passport system is implemented.

    At first, tests and papers will be ok, but some big scandal and forgery will lead to an outbreak and a big push will ensure that the move to digital passports will make everyone safe.

    We will all have to have it within 3 years.

    But by then, most will want it or already have it- to get into bars, concerts, sports games, etc. Basically, if you are social, u need to have it.
    Last year before all of this virus stuff the mayor of Moscow said he wanted every person in Moscow to get new ID cards that would have ALL information on it. That includes any fines you had, work place, living place, work history, banking and medical history. Face ID for the metro will begin soon, you won't need a ticket, just walk in and you paid.
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    Here we go.

    Moscow. 22nd of June. INTERFAX.RU - From June 28 in Moscow, only citizens vaccinated against coronavirus, who have been ill within six months or have a negative PCR test valid for three days, will be able to visit public catering establishments in Moscow. Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin reports this in his blog.

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