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    Remington acquired Russian citizenship

    Finally got Russian citizenship after living in Russia since 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remington View Post
    Finally got Russian citizenship after living in Russia since 2007.
    Congratulations!

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    Good for you! I got mine around two years ago. Never looked back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remington View Post
    Finally got Russian citizenship after living in Russia since 2007.
    Congratulations!!! Russia +1
    If you trust the government you obviously failed history class. " George Carlin"

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    Congratulations,
    I hope to follow your lead this year.
    If you have time, can you post full list of docs needed,much appreciated, even a link in Russian would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    Congratulations,
    I hope to follow your lead this year.
    If you have time, can you post full list of docs needed,much appreciated, even a link in Russian would do.
    If I can add a couple of questions to Judge’s request, since I’m also thinking of doing the same:

    - once you’re application was submitted, how long did it take?
    - if you (stll) have a foreign driving licence, are you going to have to change it for a russian one?

    Thanks! And congratulations!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    If I can add a couple of questions to Judge’s request, since I’m also thinking of doing the same:

    - once you’re application was submitted, how long did it take?
    - if you (stll) have a foreign driving licence, are you going to have to change it for a russian one?

    Thanks! And congratulations!!
    I will plan to write down the detailed list what's needed to get citizenship. I had residence permit for 11 years but I was married to Russian citizen for 1 year and have a Russian child. Therefore, 3 years does not apply in my case because I have Russian child so it's 1 year. I submitted the application in October and was approved last week and I went to oath ceremony at FMS. Next week I will collect my paper confirming my citizenship and I start the process of applying for internal and international passports.

    Technically GAIs aren't supposed to ask for your passport and you can refuse to show it to them. They're allowed to look at driver's license and car registration papers. I don't have Russian driver's license but that's on my to-do list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    If I can add a couple of questions to Judge’s request, since I’m also thinking of doing the same:

    - once you’re application was submitted, how long did it take?
    - if you (stll) have a foreign driving licence, are you going to have to change it for a russian one?

    Thanks! And congratulations!!
    your second question i can answer. already with PRP you must change your drivers licence.DONT use the computer test though. you will fail at least once. they have to generate money after all. better let an officer there - be of help-.
    There is no greater treasure then pleasure....

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    Not to hijack the thread, but the requirements on driving licences are...unclear

    Quote Originally Posted by Benedikt View Post
    your second question i can answer. already with PRP you must change your drivers licence.DONT use the computer test though. you will fail at least once. they have to generate money after all. better let an officer there - be of help-.
    That's what I thought too, Benedikt. Since I've been here I've been using my Belgian driving licence together with an International Driving Licence also issued in Belgium. I've had my PRP for a year now and have been stopped by the ДПС at least once without them complaining (or threatening fines!), but since my IDL expires this month and travelling to Belgium to get another one is going to be difficult, I wrote to the ГИБДД through their website to ask them exactly what the requirements were.

    Specifically, I wanted to know if I could continue driving on my Belgian licence and, if so, did I also need either an IDL and/or a notarised translation of my national licence. I also asked them to clarify what I would have to do if ever I received Russian citizenship. As ever, they did not simply reply yes or no but quoted the various relevant legal texts. I'm still trying to get my head around all of it, but from what I can work out "all" I need is my Belgian licence (as long as I am NOT a Russian citizen) though a translation of it might be useful.

    Where it gets strange is that they seem to be saying that I would have to take both a theoretical test AND a practical one if ever I become a Russian citizen, which is not something that I was expecting. It also seems that the theoretical test these days is the computer based one, in a controlled environment with cameras to ensure no cheating (or bribes!).

    There was also an article in our local paper last week which also went in the same sense, even though it was more directed at Ukrainians rather than Europeans (http://gazeta-rvs.ru/news/zamena-ino...skoye-tonkosti).

    This is the text of the reply I received from МВД России for the Krasnodarskiy kray in response to my questions:

    Ваше обращение от 09.12.2020 с просьбой о разъяснении порядка обмена
    иностранного национального водительского удостоверения на российское
    национальное водительское удостоверение Управлением ГИБДД ГУ МВД России
    по Краснодарскому краю рассмотрено.
    Сообщаем, что порядок допуска к управлению транспортными средствами на
    территории Российской Федерации установлен Федеральным законом от 10.12.1995
    №196ФЗ
    О безопасности дорожного движения (далее Федеральный закон).
    В соответствии с пунктом 12 статьи 25 Федерального закона все лица
    (граждане Российской Федерации, иностранные граждане и лица без гражданства),
    постоянно или временно проживающие либо временно пребывающие на территории
    Российской Федерации, допускаются к управлению транспортными средствами на
    основании российских национальных водительских удостоверений, а при отсутствии
    таковых на основании иностранных национальных или международных
    водительских удостоверений.
    Исключением из этого правила являются вводимые пунктом 13 статьи 25
    Федерального закона ограничения по допуску лиц к управлению транспортными
    средствами на основании иностранных национальных водительских или
    международных водительских удостоверений при осуществлении
    предпринимательской и трудовой деятельности, непосредственно связанной с
    управлением транспортными средствами.
    Положение пункта 13 Федерального закона не распространяется на граждан
    Киргизской Республики, а также граждан государств, законодательство которых
    закрепляет использование русского языка в качестве официального,
    осуществляющих предпринимательскую и трудовую деятельность на территории
    Российской Федерации, непосредственно связанную с управлением транспортными
    средствами.
    Пунктом 11 Федерального закона установлено, что в случае, если в
    водительском удостоверении указаны ограничения допуска к управлению
    транспортными средствами, данное водительское удостоверение признается
    действительным при условии соблюдения указанных в нем ограничений.
    Согласно пункта 15 Федерального закона, заверенный в установленном
    порядке перевод на русский язык необходим в случае использования национального
    водительское удостоверения, выданного в иностранном государстве, не
    являющемся совместно с Российской Федерацией участником международных
    договоров в области обеспечения безопасности дорожного движения, за
    исключением случаев, если в данном водительском удостоверении все записи
    произведены или дублируются буквами, совпадающими по написанию с буквами
    русского или латинского алфавита.
    Дополнительно сообщаем, что порядок выдачи водительских удостоверений
    проведения экзаменов на право управления транспортными средствами установлен
    Правилами проведения экзаменов на право управления транспортными средствами
    и выдачи водительских удостоверений, утвержденными постановлением
    Правительства Российской Федерации от 24.10.2014 №1097 (далее Правила).
    В соответствии с требованиями пункта 5 Правил сроки и последовательность
    выполнения административных процедур (действий), связанных с выдачей
    российских национальных водительских удостоверений, установлены
    Административным регламентом Министерства внутренних дел Российской
    Федерации по предоставлению государственной услуги по проведению экзаменов на
    право управления транспортными средствами и выдаче водительских
    удостоверений, утвержденным приказом МВД России от 20.10.2015 №9951.
    В соответствии с пунктом 38 Правил Вы вправе обменять иностранное
    водительское удостоверение на российское национальное водительское
    удостоверение при условии успешной сдачи теоретического экзамена, экзамена по
    первоначальным навыкам управления транспортным средством, экзамена по
    управлению транспортным средством в условиях дорожного движения,
    предусмотренных пунктом 9 Правил. При этом, присутствие переводчика при сдаче
    вышеуказанных экзаменов, Правилами и Административным регламентом не
    предусмотрено.
    Для обмена иностранного национального водительского удостоверения
    представляются следующие документы, предусмотренные пунктом 39 Правил:
    а) заявление;
    б) паспорт или иной документ, удостоверяющий личность;
    в) медицинское заключение, за исключением случаев, если заявителями
    являются лица, указанные в подпункте е пункта 39 Правил;
    г) иностранное национальное водительское удостоверение;
    д) письменное согласие одного из законных представителей (родителей,
    усыновителей или попечителей) несовершеннолетнего кандидата в водители на
    сдачу им экзамена и выдачу российского национального водительского
    удостоверения, заверенное в соответствии с законодательством Российской
    Федерации, в
    случае, когда заявителем является лицо в возрасте от 16 до 18 лет, за
    исключением случая объявления несовершеннолетнего лица полностью
    дееспособным (эмансипация) или вступления его в брак в порядке, установленном
    законодательством Российской Федерации;
    1 далее Административный регламент
    е) дипломатические, консульские, служебные карточки или удостоверения,
    выданные Министерством иностранных дел Российской Федерации, в
    случае,
    когда заявителями являются сотрудники дипломатических представительств и
    консульских учреждений иностранных государств в Российской Федерации и члены
    их семей, сотрудники международных организаций и их представительств,
    аккредитованных при Министерстве иностранных дел Российской Федерации, и
    члены их семей;
    ж) документ, подтверждающий наличие льготы по уплате государственной
    пошлины, для
    лиц, имеющих в соответствии с Налоговым кодексом Российской
    Федерации льготу по уплате государственной пошлины;
    з) переводы на русский язык документов, указанных в подпунктах б, г и
    д настоящего пункта, нотариально засвидетельствованные в соответствии с
    законодательством Российской Федерации о нотариате.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedikt View Post
    your second question i can answer. already with PRP you must change your drivers licence.DONT use the computer test though. you will fail at least once. they have to generate money after all. better let an officer there - be of help-.
    My wife is Russian lawyer and she said GAIs legally cannot ask for your passport unless if you are arrested for criminal offense. I know few expats with PRP and citizenship driving with their IDL or notarized foreign license. Don't need to get Russian license unless if you plan to use your car for commercial activities. GAIs know western foreign drivers are better drivers due to stricter traffic rules and enforcement in the West so they won't challenge it. If you have driver's license from Ghana and they may give you a hard time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Wally View Post
    Congratulations!!! Russia +1
    He's doing his bit for the Russian population......which needs a boost, this easy way to Russian citizenship kinda helps,would be interesting to see the new numbers next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    He's doing his bit for the Russian population......which needs a boost, this easy way to Russian citizenship kinda helps,would be interesting to see the new numbers next year.
    I’ve done my bit over the past thirty years without citizenship, helping Russian demographics, raising four Russian kids. Заграница вам поможет!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    He's doing his bit for the Russian population......which needs a boost, this easy way to Russian citizenship kinda helps,would be interesting to see the new numbers next year.
    New numbers released.




    With Russia seeking to increase its population, the Kremlin has looked towards former Soviet nations as a source of migrants. The plan seems to have come to fruition in 2020, with 409,549 Ukrainians receiving a Russian passport.
    Last year’s figures are an almost 40 percent increase on 2019’s, and mean the number of Ukrainian citizens who obtained Russian documents in the past four years is nearing the one million mark, at almost 900,000. The increased uptake in Russian nationality began in April 2019, when President Vladimir Putin signed a decree making it easier for residents of the unrecognized Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics to receive a passport. The breakaway regions are internationally recognized as part of Ukraine, including by Moscow.

    The process was eased even further in 2020, when the government canceled the requirement to take a language exam if the applicant is Ukrainian or Belarusian. With these two simplifications, 2020’s figure of 409,549 is significantly larger than 299,422 of 2019.
    With a declining native population, attracting new citizens is a priority of the Russian government. In 2019, Putin created a working group with the aim of attracting as many new citizens as possible to Russia through migration schemes and by reforming the citizenship rules.

    Moscow’s move to liberalize citizenship process, more than 400,000 Ukrainians received Russian passports in 2020 — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union https://www.rt.com/russia/513813-pas...nship-process/

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    Update...

    Last Thursday, I went to FMS to de-register my ВНЖ and cancel the ВНЖ stamp in my US passport. Today, I submitted my application for Russian internal passport. The following docs I submitted with my passport application: copy of my ВНЖ, copy of my Russian marriage certificate, copy of my Russian kid's birth certificate, copy of my US birth certificate translated to Russian, my ВНЖ booklet and state duty receipt of 300 rubles. I took all my original docs with me just in case if they ask for it which they didn't. I will get my passport in 10 days. Due to covid, my visit to FMS is by appointments only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remington View Post
    Update...

    Last Thursday, I went to FMS to de-register my ВНЖ and cancel the ВНЖ stamp in my US passport. Today, I submitted my application for Russian internal passport. The following docs I submitted with my passport application: copy of my ВНЖ, copy of my Russian marriage certificate, copy of my Russian kid's birth certificate, copy of my US birth certificate translated to Russian, my ВНЖ booklet and state duty receipt of 300 rubles. I took all my original docs with me just in case if they ask for it which they didn't. I will get my passport in 10 days. Due to covid, my visit to FMS is by appointments only.
    I'm waiting my 90 days at the moment and of course have questions.

    1. Do you remember on what day they phoned you, to tell you it was ready?
    2. In terms of making appointments, did many have long waiting days? I think a two week delay from asking for an appointment to submitting the citizenship application.
    3. Any estimate on how long it'll be be before you have the zagran passport?

    Thanks
    Peter

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