littleangels        English Nanny
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 31 to 44 of 44

Thread: Crime gang 1 or crime gang 2, take your pick

  1. #31
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    St. Petersburg, Russia
    Posts
    2,129
    Thanked: 1018
    Quote Originally Posted by TolkoRaz View Post
    How could the majority of Russian farms afford to invest in such expensive machinery and technology when they do not get a fair price for their crops?
    As I was writing "it do not prevent them from making money, shit loads of money when lucky", so the price is ok, and I had heard that Putin had been very generous with state aid due to foreign trade sanctions against Russia, or was it just help to friends?


    And, where is the infrastructure to support and maintain the machinery and technology?
    It is there, but the quality of their workmanship is not that good, they are sloppy too, best is to get support and maintains from abroad, it cost a lot more, but it is often far better than the domestic, sorry. We had a case where a local authorised dealer should do some warranty repair work, and at the same time we asked them to do a plain maintains work too, they ****ed up big time and they had to give us a new machine, about one million, in US dollars, all because of a few rookie mistakes, not one, but a few, and they were trying to hide it and denied everything, a call to the foreign mother company make them realise that if they wanted to stay as an authorised dealer, they had to deal correctly with their mistakes too.

  2. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Hans.KK For This Useful Post:

    bydand (29-10-2020), nicklcool (29-10-2020), Uncle Wally (28-10-2020)

  3. #32
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Kashin, Tverskaya obl.
    Posts
    1,910
    Thanked: 685
    Quote Originally Posted by americaninmoscow View Post
    I'm not sure what this means, exactly. But I can prob get the idea. The farms aren't very effecient.
    In the future, farms will be buildings, tall ones. Just the right temperature and humidity, right type and amount of light, right nutrients, trimmed/pruned if need be etc.; all taken care of by AI. Farmland will go fallow, to the weeds.
    If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough...

  4. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to bydand For This Useful Post:

    americaninmoscow (28-10-2020), nicklcool (29-10-2020), Uncle Wally (30-10-2020)

  5. #33
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    St. Petersburg, Russia
    Posts
    2,129
    Thanked: 1018
    Quote Originally Posted by bydand View Post
    In the future, farms will be buildings, tall ones. Just the right temperature and humidity, right type and amount of light, right nutrients, trimmed/pruned if need be etc.; all taken care of by AI.
    Depend on the owners wallets, and how carefully he keep it away from daylight, some farmers have a passionate and very personal relationship with their money.

  6. #34
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    moscow
    Posts
    1,477
    Thanked: 721
    Quote Originally Posted by bydand View Post
    In the future, farms will be buildings, tall ones. Just the right temperature and humidity, right type and amount of light, right nutrients, trimmed/pruned if need be etc.; all taken care of by AI. Farmland will go fallow, to the weeds.
    There is an urban movement now in the us. Growing in warehouses. It's called vertical farming and the idea is to not only grow perfect food, but to cut down on transportation costs, mostly "carbon emissions".

  7. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to americaninmoscow For This Useful Post:

    bydand (28-10-2020), Hans.KK (28-10-2020)

  8. #35
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Kashin, Tverskaya obl.
    Posts
    1,910
    Thanked: 685
    Quote Originally Posted by americaninmoscow View Post
    There is an urban movement now in the us. Growing in warehouses. It's called vertical farming and the idea is to not only grow perfect food, but to cut down on transportation costs, mostly "carbon emissions".
    Yup, no need to exploit migrant farm workers either. Crime gang 1 or 2? Doesn't matter. Will happen slower in Russia of course; whoever might invest knows what Hans is talking about. Me too, I think workers here could break a cannonball in a round rubber room.
    If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough...

  9. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to bydand For This Useful Post:

    americaninmoscow (28-10-2020), nicklcool (29-10-2020)

  10. #36
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    On the Yellow Brick Road, near El Dorado...
    Posts
    3,915
    Thanked: 1403
    Quote Originally Posted by TolkoRaz View Post
    How could the majority of Russian farms afford to invest in such expensive machinery and technology when they do not get a fair price for their crops?

    And, where is the infrastructure to support and maintain the machinery and technology?
    Crops and livestock are a "commodity" here, like silver or oil. So if you sell your oats or soybeans, or cattle, then you get the going price, whatever it is that day. If silver is $21/ounce, that's about what you could ask or would receive for your ounce of silver, same deal for whatever the price is for oats if you're selling your oats.

    How does it work in Russia? I had advised my friend in Russia to grow turkeys, because the price of turkey in the Rhinok was so high when I was there.

    ...

    There's one 82-year-old guy in town who fixes the John Deere combines, he even was working on a "Belarus" brand tractor one time. He is always busy, has lots of work fixing the local farm machinery, and he fixes my lawn mower too, which breaks down about three times a year...

    Or you can get your harvesting equipment fixed by the official repair ship in the city, at 4x the price.
    "Defund the Social Sciences." - Fantastika, 2020

  11. #37
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Moscow Orange Line, oh Yeah, I'm movin' on up!
    Posts
    1,509
    Thanked: 999
    Quote Originally Posted by bydand View Post
    In the future, farms will be buildings, tall ones. Just the right temperature and humidity, right type and amount of light, right nutrients, trimmed/pruned if need be etc.; all taken care of by AI. Farmland will go fallow, to the weeds.
    Oh uh bydnd when our more "reasonable" members like you start to repeat the "kooky" ideas or analyses of current events I start to worry!

    What source or information got you thinking like this about the future of agriculture?
    I am fascinated by Russia, this country with frigid weather, hard souls, and hot girls!

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to nicklcool For This Useful Post:

    bydand (29-10-2020)

  13. #38
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    moscow
    Posts
    1,477
    Thanked: 721
    Quote Originally Posted by nicklcool View Post
    Oh uh bydnd when our more "reasonable" members like you start to repeat the "kooky" ideas or analyses of current events I start to worry!

    What source or information got you thinking like this about the future of agriculture?
    But it's not kooky. I was part of a tech startup and went thru from, which iss russia's and europe's largest startup incubator/acelleratort and there was a massive push a few years ago to fund farming robotics.

    https://iidf.vc/

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to americaninmoscow For This Useful Post:

    bydand (29-10-2020)

  15. #39
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Kashin, Tverskaya obl.
    Posts
    1,910
    Thanked: 685
    Quote Originally Posted by nicklcool View Post
    Oh uh bydnd when our more "reasonable" members like you start to repeat the "kooky" ideas or analyses of current events I start to worry!

    What source or information got you thinking like this about the future of agriculture?
    Kooky? I resemble that remark. Well decide for yourself, a cut and paste.....

    Vertical farming enables one to grow up to 100X more in a fraction amount of the space, without using any pesticides.
    Furthermore, crops grown in this manner need a fraction of the amount of water and fertiliser used on a conventional farm.
    Plenty unlimited
    It uses 5% of the water and 1% of the land a typical farm would use. They use machine learning to improve the process
    continually. You can eat their produce straight out of the box without having to wash them, as they use no pesticides and
    maintain ultra-high standards of hygiene. AI will continue to refine this process and the only area left to fine-tune is energy
    consumption. Currently, Plenty can grow one million plants at a time and process up to 200 plants per minute. If they can
    improve on energy consumption as they have done with land usage and water consumption, then the farming scene is going
    to change drastically in a relatively short period. Note that it will be AI that will be coming up with a solution to improve the
    overall efficiency and as computing power increases so will the power of AI.
    It’s backed by some big names, Softbank, Eric Schmidt (Alphabet’s chairman), Bezos, Louis bacon, etc.
    From their site
    Grown so clean that no washing is required. Just perfect, ready-to-eat greens free of pesticides and GMOs. We grow produce
    using less than 5% of the water and less than 1% of the land compared to outdoor farms which is less taxing on the planet.
    Our sensor system ensures each plant gets exactly the amount of purified water it needs. Any excess water is recycled
    through a closed-loop irrigation system resulting in greatly reduced water consumption and zero waste. LED lights utilised in
    our farms provide light in the ideal spectrums and amounts for this photosynthesis. These photosynthetic wavelengths are
    synced with the crop’s growth to minimise energy usage and optimise yields.
    Video on Plenty Unlimited
    https://bit.ly/3kZvLId

    If your worried about pea pickers jobs, you might as well worry about fighter pilots which cost millions to train and are limited by G-forces. https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-w...ed%20dogfights.
    If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough...

  16. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to bydand For This Useful Post:

    americaninmoscow (29-10-2020), Uncle Wally (30-10-2020)

  17. #40
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Kashin, Tverskaya obl.
    Posts
    1,910
    Thanked: 685
    Sorry, to be on topic I should have added it won't matter which crime gang has the POTUS.
    If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough...

  18. #41
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Moscow
    Posts
    13,585
    Thanked: 4058
    Quote Originally Posted by bydand View Post
    Kooky? I resemble that remark. Well decide for yourself, a cut and paste.....

    Vertical farming enables one to grow up to 100X more in a fraction amount of the space, without using any pesticides.
    Furthermore, crops grown in this manner need a fraction of the amount of water and fertiliser used on a conventional farm.
    Plenty unlimited
    It uses 5% of the water and 1% of the land a typical farm would use. They use machine learning to improve the process
    continually. You can eat their produce straight out of the box without having to wash them, as they use no pesticides and
    maintain ultra-high standards of hygiene. AI will continue to refine this process and the only area left to fine-tune is energy
    consumption. Currently, Plenty can grow one million plants at a time and process up to 200 plants per minute. If they can
    improve on energy consumption as they have done with land usage and water consumption, then the farming scene is going
    to change drastically in a relatively short period. Note that it will be AI that will be coming up with a solution to improve the
    overall efficiency and as computing power increases so will the power of AI.
    It’s backed by some big names, Softbank, Eric Schmidt (Alphabet’s chairman), Bezos, Louis bacon, etc.
    From their site
    Grown so clean that no washing is required. Just perfect, ready-to-eat greens free of pesticides and GMOs. We grow produce
    using less than 5% of the water and less than 1% of the land compared to outdoor farms which is less taxing on the planet.
    Our sensor system ensures each plant gets exactly the amount of purified water it needs. Any excess water is recycled
    through a closed-loop irrigation system resulting in greatly reduced water consumption and zero waste. LED lights utilised in
    our farms provide light in the ideal spectrums and amounts for this photosynthesis. These photosynthetic wavelengths are
    synced with the crop’s growth to minimise energy usage and optimise yields.
    Video on Plenty Unlimited
    https://bit.ly/3kZvLId

    If your worried about pea pickers jobs, you might as well worry about fighter pilots which cost millions to train and are limited by G-forces. https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-w...ed%20dogfights.
    New developments in smart windows that can allow more or less Sunlight in by changing tint or reflection can control temperature and photosynthesis. Plants growing on higher levels will get more Sunlight do to the fact they are higher above the horizon, creating faster growt Vertical growing also means year round growing. With lights you can shorten the time it takes to harvest. Growing ganja indoors under lights has a 3 month cycle meaning you can cut buds every 3 months and then just turn the lights back on 24 hours a day. You don't have to start new plants, it's all controlled by the amount of light. No need for soil either, just something for the roots to grab onto. The buildings themselves will also be 3D printed with very few people needed for construction.
    If you trust the government you obviously failed history class. " George Carlin"

  19. The Following User Says Thank You to Uncle Wally For This Useful Post:

    bydand (30-10-2020)

  20. #42
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Kashin, Tverskaya obl.
    Posts
    1,910
    Thanked: 685
    Uncle Wally, somehow I knew you would know about growing indoors. Spectrum specific LEDs will make the day better than old grow lights.
    If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough...

  21. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to bydand For This Useful Post:

    Hans.KK (30-10-2020), Uncle Wally (30-10-2020)

  22. #43
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    On the Yellow Brick Road, near El Dorado...
    Posts
    3,915
    Thanked: 1403
    The "Great Reset" will blow up in their faces. It is mostly promoted by several guilt-ridden billionaires trying to curry favor with tax authorities, and university intellectuals with infinitesimal wisdom who never worked at a real job. Beyond that, how do you build a Brave New World when you are creating intolerance by emphasizing the physical differences (not the common spirituality) between races, between males and females and others, between rich and poor, between old and young, between hetero and homo...?

    The "Great Reset" will not be a перезагрузка, it will be a перегрузка!

    A new paradigm is coming, but it will be a seamless transition, to a ethical/moral structure which everyone will agree on, where people communicate freely (goodbye elitist censors at facebook and twitter and legacy media) and understand one another.
    Last edited by TheInterocitor; 06-11-2020 at 06:21.
    "Defund the Social Sciences." - Fantastika, 2020

  23. #44
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    here,since many years
    Posts
    21,166
    Thanked: 4877
    Quote Originally Posted by bydand View Post
    In the future, farms will be buildings, tall ones. Just the right temperature and humidity, right type and amount of light, right nutrients, trimmed/pruned if need be etc.; all taken care of by AI. Farmland will go fallow, to the weeds.
    let them grow trees then.good for the climate...
    There is no greater treasure then pleasure....

  24. The Following User Says Thank You to Benedikt For This Useful Post:

    TheInterocitor (10-11-2020)

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •