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Thread: Lukashenko says, call was intercepted, Merkel's statement that Navalny was poisoned is false.

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    Lukashenko says, call was intercepted, Merkel's statement that Navalny was poisoned is false.

    https://sputniknews.com/world/202009...utnik_inter_en


    nothing would surprise me anymore in politics these days. but one thing stays a fact. Merkel does not like VV. Stems from the days that he was working for the KGB. and Merkel, a Pastors daughter, and the stories dont go away, was a IM for the Stasi. ( IM- informeller Mitarbeiter, -informal worker) for the dreaded DDR state security, the Stasi...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedikt View Post
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    nothing would surprise me anymore in politics these days. but one thing stays a fact. Merkel does not like VV. Stems from the days that he was working for the KGB. and Merkel, a Pastors daughter, and the stories dont go away, was a IM for the Stasi. ( IM- informeller Mitarbeiter, -informal worker) for the dreaded DDR state security, the Stasi...
    It would not surprise me that Navalny was poisoned by US Deep State, in attempt to sow discord within Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInterocitor View Post
    It would not surprise me that Navalny was poisoned by US Deep State, in attempt to sow discord within Russia.
    Well, in that case, they have helped the Kremlin as Navalny has now departed the RF and will not be coming back - job done, mission accomplished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TolkoRaz View Post
    Well, in that case, they have helped the Kremlin as Navalny has now departed the RF and will not be coming back - job done, mission accomplished!
    3 immediate points.

    1) usually, countries don't refuse their citizens entry to their own country and

    2) if indeed he is refused entry, we now know who russia's new leader will be because in a typical "color style revolution" a shadow government" or government in waiting is formed with an exiled leader and is installed when the timing is right.

    3) the idea that the us deep state poisoned him is more far-fetched than the Russian secret services poisoning him simply due to the ease of pulling it off. More than likely, this move was anticipated and it's a pivot point. The choice of country was telling as germany is now under pressure to discontinue the nord stream 2, which has been an ongoing operation for some years. So, this might actually be the straw that broke the camel's back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by americaninmoscow View Post
    1) usually, countries don't refuse their citizens entry to their own country
    The man has to weak-up from his sleep, he may not do so, but he can enter Russia in a urn without many problems what so ever. But even if he recover, some diabetics patients do recover from the shit that can happen to them if they fail to follow their diet one of the things that can happen is very much like what had happen to the bespoke person. But why should they not let him into Russia, he is, was, and will never be a threat to anyone, a very small stone in the shoe maybe, but nothing more. His fame and popularity is mostly outside Russia.

    2) if indeed he is refused entry, we now know who russia's new leader will be because in a typical "color style revolution" a shadow government" or government in waiting is formed with an exiled leader and is installed when the timing is right.
    At the same level as ex. Cubans have an exile government, it will never be anything else but noise.

    3) the idea that the us deep state poisoned him is more far-fetched than the Russian secret services poisoning him simply due to the ease of pulling it off. More than likely, this move was anticipated and it's a pivot point. The choice of country was telling as germany is now under pressure to discontinue the nord stream 2, which has been an ongoing operation for some years. So, this might actually be the straw that broke the camel's back.
    If "Russia" wanted to kill him then he would already be dead, and he is still alive, sort of, but alive he is, so again, he is no threat to anyone, and he may not be that popular in Russia as some western media would like him to be. I am still missing to meet a Russian that like and support him, if anyone says something it is that they do not like him because of the noise he makes, or because of his "love" for other people's money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans.KK View Post
    The man has to weak-up from his sleep, he may not do so, but he can enter Russia in a urn without many problems what so ever. But even if he recover, some diabetics patients do recover from the shit that can happen to them if they fail to follow their diet one of the things that can happen is very much like what had happen to the bespoke person. But why should they not let him into Russia, he is, was, and will never be a threat to anyone, a very small stone in the shoe maybe, but nothing more. His fame and popularity is mostly outside Russia.

    At the same level as ex. Cubans have an exile government, it will never be anything else but noise.

    If "Russia" wanted to kill him then he would already be dead, and he is still alive, sort of, but alive he is, so again, he is no threat to anyone, and he may not be that popular in Russia as some western media would like him to be. I am still missing to meet a Russian that like and support him, if anyone says something it is that they do not like him because of the noise he makes, or because of his "love" for other people's money.
    Well, again, it clearly wasn't a diabetic coma, As this situation is easy and well known enough to have been resolved long ago, all color revolutions, such as egypt, venezuela, etc had a shadow government set up ready and waiting to be installed and as to meeting anyone who likes him, maybe it's an age thing or a Moscow thing, but lots of people in their 20-40s like and support him.

    I think the most interesting aspect is Germany and the nord stream 2. I'm sure this is the pressure point and the real focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TolkoRaz View Post
    Well, in that case, they have helped the Kremlin as Navalny has now departed the RF and will not be coming back - job done, mission accomplished!
    no one is going to miss him in Russia. - Opposition - for me as a foreigner who is not even allowed to vote, is something different..
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    The choice of country was telling as germany is now under pressure to discontinue the nord stream 2, which has been an ongoing operation for some years. So, this might actually be the straw that broke the camel's back.[/QUOTE]

    That is one thing Frau Merkel will not allow. because when her Bürgers in winter have cold appartements because Ukraine steals export gas and GAZPROM turns off the pipeline, she will have a real revolution on hand. or when factories or power stations can not produce because no gas, no electricity, the protest now will be seeing like a walk in the park.Trumps much touted LPG can not make up for the loss of Russian gas if it should happen.and definitely NOT for that price.Today the BILD, Germany's biggest yellow rag, has a go at ex Kanzler Schröder and VV. Schröder was elected to the board of GAZPROM, with quite a salary.- Blood money on their hands-. And he never was hiding it that he WILl do business with Russia. Merkel does not like VV. Comes from times back in the DDR when she was a -suspected, and it was assumed, and we thought, and we just can't find the papers, the files will not be handed over - Stasi IM , -informeller Mitarbeiter - that is informal co worker. And VV was working for the KGB in Dresden.
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