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    Russian-Germans

    Got this antique book (the whole box for $1) at an auction some time ago, and just got around to looking at it. Took me a while to get the gist of the old German, so I typed in "Jacob Denner," and Google provided the rest...

    Interesting to go down this rabbit hole of history. And I just happened to also be reading a long article about Russian-Germans in the US.

    This book was owned by a Mennonite, who lived in Newton, Kansas, or Mound Ridge, another nearby town. Now it's called Moundridge.

    Inside the book is a newspaper clipping of a man who was born in 1836. From the Mennonite newspaper. The Mennonites are a Christian sect who do not join in armies, they are exempt as "conscientious objectors."

    The Mennonites were an Anabaptist Protestant group originally from Holland and NW Germany. They moved to Prussia and Poland in the 1700's. In 1763, Catherine the Great of Russia, invited them to immigrate to Southern Russia, around Samara, and in the Volga regions. They were given land and thousands of them settled in present-day Ukraine, and in Southern Russia. The Empress granted them exemptions form the draft (did not have to serve in the army). but in the 1800's the new Czar was going to revoke this exemption, so the Mennonites emigrated to America. They did not settle in the big cities, as most immigrants, they wanted land and they wanted to farm. They rode the train out West, to Kansas, where the railroads gave them free acreage. (The Railroads were looking to make money from hauling crops and livestock).

    One town the new immigrants had a civilizing effect on - Newton, Kansas, one of the wildest towns in the frontier "Wild West" - there were shootings, stabbings and robberies every weekend. The Mennonites were pacifists and their newspaper helped the town become more peaceful.

    To wrap this all up, now when I walk through the Kansas village here, I see street signs - Listerscheid, Attendorn, Olpe, Schreiner, Bitler - all German names, right? There is an "Attendorf" in Germany, and an Olpe, a small city.

    Just goes to show, that, you can walk all the way around the earth, and you're right back where you started... where-ever you go, there you are!

    Can't wait to tell everyone here, they their town was founded, not by Germans, but by RUSSIANS!


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    Have we reached the ultimate stage of absurdity where some people are held responsible for things that happened before they were born, while other people are not held responsible for what they themselves are doing today?

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    [QUOTE=TheInterocitor;1491120]Got this antique book (the whole box for $1) at an auction some time ago, and just got around to looking at it. Took me a while to get the gist of the old German, so I typed in "Jacob Denner," and Google provided the rest...



    i am glad that i still can read this old writing. actually we did it primary school, the last year, for about 6 month. I can not write anymore but still can read it. Many Germans also came down the Wolga river into the Saratov Region ( WOLGA DEUTSCHE, THAT IS VOLGA GERMANS). City Hall i nSaratov is such an old and beautiful building. Stalin then sent most of them to the steppes of Kasakhstan or up North. Igharka, to build the railway there.( when i was working on the Jennisei river, I found out a little about the - german- history-..).Earlier already Germans also settle in Moscow,There is even a old German graveyard here.
    Since many of these Volga Germans still could speak German langauge, many of them emigrated to Germany.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_Idaho
    there are several towns with the name of Moscow in the USA. And somehow, somewhere there is always one or more Russians around in the beginning...
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    A bit of complementary reading from Russia beyond the headlines https://www.rbth.com/history/331689-...russian-empire

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    A bit of complementary reading from Russia beyond the headlines https://www.rbth.com/history/331689-...russian-empire
    makes for nice reading indeed. And when visiting SARATOV one will will find many things German still exist. The German Quarter in Moscow, around what is now Lefortovo, there is still the old German cemetery there
    http://de.nextews.com/15890e1a/ ( German language)
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    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%...B2%D0%B8%D1%87 Denis Fonvizin, earlier von Wiesen, classic literature

    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%...B2%D0%B8%D1%87 - Vladimir Dal' (Dahl), Russian Navy officer, doctor, etnographist, phylologist (creator of Russian dictionary)

    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%...B2%D0%B8%D1%87 Ivan Kruzenshtern, full admiral of Russian Navy, commanderof the first Russian fleet expedition around the globe

    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%...B2%D0%B8%D1%87 Faddei Bellinsgauzen, full admiral of Russian Navy, discoverer of Antarctica

    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%...B2%D0%B8%D1%87 Pavel Rennenkampf, general of cavalry, 1st WW

    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%...B2%D0%B8%D1%87 - Pyotr Vitgenshtein, general-feldmarshal, hero of 1812 Patriotic War
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    I go to a lot of estate sales (auctions) in this area (rural central Kansas) and I find a lot of old books, going back to the 1850's, a few even back to pre-1800. Many are written in German, usually in old German. There were printing and publication companies to print only in German in Missouri. Kansas and Chicago, but the pre-1850 books were probably brought over from Europe. Also have a couple of old Taufschein - baptismal certificates. At one auction there was an old wooden storage trunk, writing on it in German, I translated for everyone. The auctioneer liked it because it boosted the price about 100%... No one speaks German or Russian around here.

    Many Bibles, not only in German, but Dutch, Danish, Norwegian. If they are in good condition they can be valuable. I have a collection of about 100 Russian books, going back to 1890's, I got for about $1 a book, but haven't really got into them yet.

    Wish I was in Russia and could pore through the old bookshops...
    Have we reached the ultimate stage of absurdity where some people are held responsible for things that happened before they were born, while other people are not held responsible for what they themselves are doing today?

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