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    So, does anybody by any chance know how long it takes for the "citizenship decree" to reach the local migration service once it's issued? Last week my brother got a letter in the mail addressed to me saying that my daughter was accepted into Russian citizenship, and that I have to go to my local ex-FMS office to get her birth certificate stamped. So I rushed to Moscow to get it done (because there's less than a couple of months left until she turns one year old, and if she doesn't get Moscow registration before that date we can kiss the Moscow payout goodbye), but the local MVD office says they didn't get "their" letter in the mail yet (apparently it should've been sent to them at the same time as my letter, but for some reason it takes loner to get to their office, even though it's only a couple of blocks down from my place) and it might take another couple of weeks.

    So any clue how I can speed this up? Maybe they can stamp it at the MMC in Saharovo if I go there (I certainly wouldn't enjoy another trip to that place, but if it could save me the extra week or two of sitting around in Moscow, I'd do it), or the central office on Bolshaya Ordynka in the city? The local office says I can only wait for them to get the letter, but wtf on one hand they be talking about their "digital economy" and whatnot, and on the other they still rely on snail mail (or maybe even pigeon) for thins like these..

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    I'll bet you 10 Rubles you'll be wasting your time trying to speed things up by visiting Sakharovo or Bolshaya Ordynka. Wait two weeks and go back to your Migration Office to pick up the doc. It takes about two weeks to get the internal passport after that, last time I checked. Then, you register her in a day.

    When it comes to citizens and especially infants, if the migration officials promise delivery of a doc in two weeks, it will get done.
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    Companies like DHL offer express delivery, and you can check the status of the letter live on the internet. Not a cheap service. But I would prefer to pay it than to waste half day going to Sakharovo.
    What does the office at Bolshaya Ordynka do? I never have been there.

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    Tiancai won't find the original document. It's internal and won't be released, especially to a non-Russian. He can't arrange to DHL it, even if he wanted to.

    Bolshaya Ordynka is the Moscow head office of the migration service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post
    I'll bet you 10 Rubles you'll be wasting your time trying to speed things up by visiting Sakharovo or Bolshaya Ordynka. Wait two weeks and go back to your Migration Office to pick up the doc. It takes about two weeks to get the internal passport after that, last time I checked. Then, you register her in a day.

    When it comes to citizens and especially infants, if the migration officials promise delivery of a doc in two weeks, it will get done.
    Infants don't get internal passports, those are issued after 14 years of age, the citizenship stamp on the back of a birth certificate is all they need to do. But the problem is that once that is done, I have to do her registration which takes around 2 weeks (AND they take away not only the kid's birth certificate but also originals of the parents' passports, so I won't be able to go back to my country until it's done), so in total I'll have to stick around in Moscow for almost a month.

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    Right you are. Forgot that bit about the internal passport being issued at age 14. It's been 20 years since I got the most recent citizenship docs for my youngest daughter. My wife handled it and seemed unconcerned about documents getting done at the last minute, which always seemed to end up happening. She would tell me to cool my jets and then, I would. We managed to pull through unscathed. I realize that's little consolation for you.

    How far from Moscow are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post
    Right you are. Forgot that bit about the internal passport being issued at age 14. It's been 20 years since I got the most recent citizenship docs for my youngest daughter. My wife handled it and seemed unconcerned about documents getting done at the last minute, which always seemed to end up happening. She would tell me to cool my jets and then, I would. We managed to pull through unscathed. I realize that's little consolation for you.

    How far from Moscow are you?
    Well in our case, if we miss the deadlines, we won't be getting any cash from the gov't of Moscow (have to apply before the child turns one year old), which was the whole reason for applying for citizenship in the first place (we don't have any need for Russian citizenship, since we don't intend on ever living in Russia).

    I live in Kyiv, which is not that far, technically I could go back and then come again to submit the docs, but they don't tell anyone else (I tried sending relatives to ask) if the citizenship docs are ready, and they don't answer the phone, so the only option is to go ask them in person, so I don't want to be hopping back and forth between countries just to ask a question. And once that is done and I apply for my child's registration (propiska), they will take away my passport for 2 weeks while they process it, so I won't be able to leave anyway.

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    Tough case. Irritating to go all that way, via Minsk if you fly. Good luck to you Tiancai...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post

    When I started the process, I showed an inspector article 62 of the Russian constitution which allows dual citizenship. I asked why I need to submit a document giving up my original citizenship since I will have the right to keep it, under the law. The inspector said, that's the rule and you just have to follow it. And so I did.
    Hello xt-tsi,

    Firstly, congratulations on your Russian citizenship!

    May I please ask how you were required to submit the document for renunciation of your citizenship? Did you have to take it to the post office yourself? If so, did they check and confirm it officially in some way before the envelope was sealed? Did the Russian authorities send anything to the embassy to confirm your letter/application of renunciation? As time has passed now as you did it over one year ago, have the Russian authorities followed up and checked your renunciation?

    Sorry, for all the questions. It's just that I'm about to go through the process and I'm quite scared of possible losing my dual US/UK citizenships. I have a medical condition that requires I get treatment every year in the UK. I will have to have surgery in the future, too. Also, my mother is ill and alone abroad. I can't take the risk of not being able to travel in an emergency due to loss of my citizenships. My Russian husband is pushing me to move forward and get on with the process, though.
    Last edited by seagirl333; 26-11-2018 at 02:16.

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    Seagirl: I am sending you a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post
    Seagirl: I am sending you a PM.
    Hello Xt-tsi

    Thank you so very much for the PM. I've tried to send you a reply, but they say your inbox is full, so it will come to you once it's cleared a bit. Thank you again.
    Very much appreciated.

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    seagirll333, I emptied out my inbox. Feel free to send again. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post
    seagirll333, I emptied out my inbox. Feel free to send again. Cheers!
    Okay, will do...Thanks!

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