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    Getting citizenship if living overseas

    Hi everyone,
    First I decided to get TRP here and then get my husband a permanent visa in Australia but ultimately Australia is harder to get permanent visa/citizenship so we have been going through that process first.
    However I do eventually want Russian citizenship as I consider it my second home living here for a couple of years on student visas and such. Is there any way to get Russian citizenship without living there permanently if married? Like, can I go through the trp>prp>citizenship route without always being in Russia? I presume you have to be in Russia for them to stay valid. We spend about 6 months in AU and 6 months in Russia so getting visas is annoying, I just wish I had citizenship already.
    Is there anyway to get trp/prp and then apply for citizenship in the space of a few months?
    Thanks in advance

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    You don't need to stay in Russia, as long as you've been married for 3 years or more you can get citizenship. You can apply for TRP, then leave and come back to pick up your TRP, then apply for PRP right away, and then leave and come back to pick up the PRP and apply for citizenship right after than.

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    Hi Tiancal,
    I am thinking of swapping my RVP for citizenship, though I am nowadays just visiting russia, married to one for 16 years. It seems the process is getting simpler. Any guidance? Would there be period where I'm 'stuck' in russia (this always bothers me but then it turns out not to be a problem.) . I presume that once you are granted citizenship you cannot enter or leave on a foreign passport so either have to wait for it internally or at the nearest embassy

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    I got Russian citizenship after having the RVP, based on having a Russian spouse. Once your application is submitted, it takes six months for citizenship to be granted. During that time, I travelled using my RVP and US passport. The RVP remained valid.

    When you are granted RU citizenship, you apply for and get an internal passport, then you apply for an international passport; these two steps took me about two months if I remember correctly. I requested to keep my RVP valid during this period. The migration folks stayed yes and I was free to travel, again with my RVP and other passport.

    So, in my case there were no restrictions on travel. The day I got my international passport, my RVP was revoked.

    I'm confident this is still the process but check with your local multi-functional office just in case. They will explain how the process works. Trust, but verify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xt-tsi View Post
    I got Russian citizenship after having the RVP, based on having a Russian spouse. Once your application is submitted, it takes six months for citizenship to be granted.
    XT-TSI, can you speak more about how you applied for citizenship directly after receiving your RVP? Most of the sites I've been coming across say you still must apply for VNZh, before you can apply for citizenship, including this one:
    https://ufms-gov.ru/grazhdanstvo-rf/...erez-brak.html
    I am fascinated by Russia, this country with frigid weather, hard souls, and hot girls!

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    That was a typo made by myself. I got the VnZh, then applied for citizenship. My mistake. Needs to be corrected...not sure how. Thanks for catching it.

    You are right. Here is the MVD site showing that the VNZH (permanent residency doc) needs to be shown when applying for citizenship, along with other docs.

    https://78.мвд.рф/grazhdanstvo/prost

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    There is a typo here, everyone. I got my citizenship based on the VnZH. Not sure how to correct this mistake. Anyone know how?

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    Thanks for clarifying, xt! Yeah, I just got a little greedy, wanting to apply for citizenship ASAP given this new, stricter rule that you must be in-country at least 183 days every year! 🤣
    But, OK, the process is the same as before - well, not quite; at least the last who issues my RVP at Saxarovo time me that I can apply for VnZH immediately- no need to wait! 😁👍🏻
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    Nikicool, Yes, all true. I did that. Got the RVP and went directly to the VnZh. As soon as I had the VnZh, I applied for citizenship. It was a fricking marathon but I'm glad it's done. Glad the 183 rule isn't something I need to be concerned with.

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    Finally submitted my citizenship application yesterday based on marriage to Russian citizen. Sakharovo's appointment system is absurd and I changed my registration to Rostov-on-Don. It made things much easier and submitted my application on the first day at FMS in Rostov. I should get an answer in 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remington View Post
    Finally submitted my citizenship application yesterday based on marriage to Russian citizen. Sakharovo's appointment system is absurd and I changed my registration to Rostov-on-Don. It made things much easier and submitted my application on the first day at FMS in Rostov. I should get an answer in 3 months.
    Good luck, did you have to hand in language test?

    Today read this, new changes.

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    Russia simplifies citizenship procedure for foreigners with Russian children
    Besides, some restrictions on filing inquiries on application for Russian citizenship will be abolished for Russian-speaking foreigners


    Alexander Ryumin/TASS
    MOSCOW, October 12. /TASS/. Foreign citizens with adult able-bodied children with Russian passports will be able to obtain Russain citizenship via a simplified procedure starting October 12, according to the Russian official legal information website. Besides, foreigners applying for Russian citizenship will undergo compulsory dactiloscopic registration starting Monday.

    The new law allows foreigners to obtain Russian citizenship via a simplified procedure, without a minimum residence time requirement, if they have adult able-bodied children with Russian passports - in contrast with previous edition that conditioned this option on disabled children only.

    Besides, some restrictions on filing inquiries on application for Russian citizenship will be abolished for Russian-speaking foreigners.

    Foreign citizens and people without citizenship, applying for Russian passport, will now be required do undergo dactyloscopy. This measure aims to increase Russia's national security and prevent people involved in terrorism to infiltrate the Russian territory."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    Good luck, did you have to hand in language test?
    Yup. I applied via simplified path based on marriage to Russian citizen for 1 year with a child.

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