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    Being involved in 2 companies on a HQS visa

    I'm currently employed by a company I co-own as a HQS. Just turned out to be the easiest way to get a long term visa.

    Now we're about to launch a second company where I would also be a shareholder, and we need someone to be the official General manager/director. There's only 3 of us involved, one doesn't want it, the other is already GM of company #1 which should not be too publicly connected to company #2.

    So that leaves me, but somehow I'm doubtful there is a legal basis for me to be GM of a different company than the one which officially employs me. Could I be employed by 2 companies? I know Russians can manage several companies at once, what about foreigners?

    Just asking here as we haven't started the actual process yet so haven't spoken to the specialists yet.

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    Would I have to reside in Russia for my stipend?

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    Of course it's not allowed but who cares?

    If you follow the law by the letter it's not allowed of course, but that is almost always the case here. Just do it. Noone cares.

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    With all the shag and hassle of being a foreign руководитель in Russia I just refuse to do it any more , you can get admin fines for almost anything , get a local and pay them a bonus for the pleasure and a nice business card

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanC View Post
    I'm currently employed by a company I co-own as a HQS. Just turned out to be the easiest way to get a long term visa.

    Now we're about to launch a second company where I would also be a shareholder, and we need someone to be the official General manager/director. There's only 3 of us involved, one doesn't want it, the other is already GM of company #1 which should not be too publicly connected to company #2.

    So that leaves me, but somehow I'm doubtful there is a legal basis for me to be GM of a different company than the one which officially employs me. Could I be employed by 2 companies? I know Russians can manage several companies at once, what about foreigners?

    Just asking here as we haven't started the actual process yet so haven't spoken to the specialists yet.

    When it comes to specialists, I would recommend a firm called the Pepeliaev Group:-

    http://www.pgplaw.ru/

    They are also recommended by the Legal 500 and by Chambers as one of the top Russian law firms in the area of employment:-

    http://www.legal500.com/c/russia/employment

    http://www.chambersandpartners.com/180/23/editorial/7/1



    My understanding of the situation is that you have two choices. Firstly, resign from the current company and then you have 30 days to find alternative employment which will be with the other company.

    Secondly, you can have two different jobs but you need to have two separate HQS visas; one for each job. So you and the new company will have to go the whole process of applying for migration permission for you again.

    I don't know if you have set up the new company yet but there is a new law coming into effect on 1st Jan that means that representative offices of foreign companies in Russia will now also have the right to hire foreign workers under the HQS programme. At present, the HQS is only available to Russian companies and branch offices of foreign companies. So, depending on your circumstances, this may give you an extra option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanC View Post
    I'm currently employed by a company I co-own as a HQS. Just turned out to be the easiest way to get a long term visa.

    Now we're about to launch a second company where I would also be a shareholder, and we need someone to be the official General manager/director. There's only 3 of us involved, one doesn't want it, the other is already GM of company #1 which should not be too publicly connected to company #2.

    So that leaves me, but somehow I'm doubtful there is a legal basis for me to be GM of a different company than the one which officially employs me. Could I be employed by 2 companies? I know Russians can manage several companies at once, what about foreigners?

    Just asking here as we haven't started the actual process yet so haven't spoken to the specialists yet.
    Is this offer still available??? I'm interested to join)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanC View Post
    I'm currently employed by a company I co-own as a HQS. Just turned out to be the easiest way to get a long term visa.

    Now we're about to launch a second company where I would also be a shareholder, and we need someone to be the official General manager/director. There's only 3 of us involved, one doesn't want it, the other is already GM of company #1 which should not be too publicly connected to company #2.

    So that leaves me, but somehow I'm doubtful there is a legal basis for me to be GM of a different company than the one which officially employs me. Could I be employed by 2 companies? I know Russians can manage several companies at once, what about foreigners?

    Just asking here as we haven't started the actual process yet so haven't spoken to the specialists yet.
    Yes you can work for several companies at the same time, but there is a limit - 20h per week - that is how much time you are allowed to spend at second job. As a foreigner from visa country you will need a full set of docs (employment permit, work permit, etc) for the second job (unless you got a residency permit). I agreee with others that it is quite a challenge to have a foreigner as a CEO/director in Russia. So consider appointing a Russian (relative, friend, or a nomonal director). Also you may hire another company to perform management duties instead of the director - physical person

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    If you are high qualified spetsialist, you can apply for VNZh immediately at UFMS. RVP and medical tests are not required. Then you don't need additional work permission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deana View Post
    If you are high qualified spetsialist, you can apply for VNZh immediately at UFMS. RVP and medical tests are not required. Then you don't need additional work permission.

    That's a good point - I'd forgotten that you can also get a ''permanent'' residence permit that's valid for the same length of time as your employment.

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