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    leave or not leave on 90 /180 ??

    My visa is 1 year multi, I have 20 days before the 90 days expires. I will apply for temp res permit this week. (must notarize another document). I was told that if my documents are accepted, then it is not necessary to leave. Is this correct?

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    It is 100% FALSE. you MUST leave, even if you are waiting a temp residency, a work permit, a citizenship or I don't know what!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralo View Post
    Is this correct?
    Not at all correct, You must leave the country.
    But you can try to get "Виза временно проживающего лица" in your country. I heard they give it also for those who apply for temp. residenship and it is valid for 4 months.
    But this I'm not sure myself, the main purpose of this visa is different.

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    wow

    I was also told I would be given a spravka (they said this document will allow me to stay until the temp res permit is given )

    Is this correct? Is there a spravka for this ?


    Thanks for your information.

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    No no and NO!!!!! NO spravka can replace a visa!


    Quote Originally Posted by Ralo View Post
    I was also told I would be given a spravka (they said this document will allow me to stay until the temp res permit is given )

    Is this correct? Is there a spravka for this ?


    Thanks for your information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralo View Post
    I was also told I would be given a spravka (they said this document will allow me to stay until the temp res permit is given )

    Is this correct? Is there a spravka for this ?


    Thanks for your information.
    No there is another Spravka, that is one you get when you have handed in your applicatio, and then with a bit of luck you might get confirmation that your application is likely to be acceptable. That's the Spravka where you no longer have to leave Russia


    And I'm sure that's where the confusion lies.

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    I am on business/multiple entry visa waiting for my documents as well. I spoke to the guy that sorts out legal matters with the company and he stated that as there is no special note on the visa, mentioning anything about 90/180, the rule does not apply to my particular case. My visa was issued in November 2007 and it might be the case, however I am very doubtful. However, it has no remarks on how long I could stay.
    Could anyone chip in on that?
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mete View Post
    I am on business/multiple entry visa waiting for my documents as well. I spoke to the guy that sorts out legal matters with the company and he stated that as there is no special note on the visa, mentioning anything about 90/180, the rule does not apply to my particular case. My visa was issued in November 2007 and it might be the case, however I am very doubtful. However, it has no remarks on how long I could stay.
    Could anyone chip in on that?
    Cheers
    Mmm...good one....
    Be a good idea to check it with the issuing embassy to be sure.
    In my case the did write the special note on my visa.
    "max 90 days, to use in 180 days"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
    Not at all correct, You must leave the country.
    But you can try to get "Виза временно проживающего лица" in your country. I heard they give it also for those who apply for temp. residenship and it is valid for 4 months.
    But this I'm not sure myself, the main purpose of this visa is different.
    Anyone know anything more about this? I could do with a visa like that!

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    yes, yes, tell me more about this!

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    Sorry peeps but...

    Quote Originally Posted by hamski View Post
    Anyone know anything more about this? I could do with a visa like that!
    Sorry to say this to all of you but,....you realy need to leave the country in order to close your visa.
    At the moment you wish to apply for a new visa, regardless if you applied for a temp. permission, you still are boundend to the visa rules that are now in order.

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    True, bottom line even with your application for temp. residence is accepted but if your current visa will expire, you will have to leave Russia and apply for a new visa to return. Speaking from experience, when my application was accepted last Oct. at the local FMS I had to depart in a week since my visa was going about to expire, and now I do have my 3yr. residency permit stamped on my passport.

    The main FMS at Pokrovka can only extend a visa for a maximum of 10 days: a) a person is at the moment hospitalized and recuperating; b) flights are fully booked and you have to proove that there are no available flights out of Russia; and c) if your married to a russian with kids (but a long shot, which means alot of drama at the FMS that you need to be in Russia to financially support and take care of your family).

    So I suggest you begin the necessary arrangements for a new visa back to Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralo View Post
    My visa is 1 year multi, I have 20 days before the 90 days expires. I will apply for temp res permit this week. (must notarize another document). I was told that if my documents are accepted, then it is not necessary to leave. Is this correct?
    Go. While you still can. I had SERIOUS problems due to illness, and even with a spravka it took almost a month and close to 2,000 in various fees and, ahem, gratuities, to get out of Russia.
    Seriously, it's up to you. But in order to smooth your passage back into Russia and future stays there, just cross a border when you need to, and go to the nearest embassy. Any border will do, just do it and save yourself time, money, and heartbreak.

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    If you have the 90 day limit written on your visa then you have to go, it wasn't shown on mine (issued Nov 08) but the agency that I registered through would only give me 90 days and so I left in February and promptly came back on a 3 month single entry business visa. My Russian wife made the new registration for me and was told by the local FMS that my departure had been unecessary. With so many complex rules its not hard to understand why people interpret them in different ways.
    If, like me, your application for temp res has been submitted then you will notice an official stamp on the back of your migration card and a note to the effect that your documents have been accepted for consideration together with the date. You should make a copy of this because if you have to leave through passport control it will be taken from you.

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