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    Where have we seen this scenario before...?

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...ic/504786.html

    Top dog steps down... Junior dog steps up... Previous top dog now 'reports' to new 'Top dog'...

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    What is the Moscow Times?

    I saw this newspaper at Sheree and read it in the air. It just got worse and worse, after a while I thought it was the New York Slimes or the Washington comPost. "Progressive" Russia-bashing propaganda.

    Does this Dutch company really own 25% of Russian media?

    It's bizarre when everyone in the US claims that Putin controls (some of them say he owns) all the media in Russia.

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    It's bizarre when everyone in the US claims that Putin controls (some of them say he owns) all the media in Russia.
    All the mainstream television channels - not necessarily owns, but controls - for sure. Why do you find it bizarre? It is an effective brainwashing and propaganda tool, seems to be worth its money, I have to talk to its patients every day.

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    so what is new...

    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...ic/504786.html

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    it is a show for local and international consumption.
    when the -Mishka- replaced VV as president it was obvious who pulled the strings anyway.
    same now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Lad View Post
    All the mainstream television channels - not necessarily owns, but controls - for sure. Why do you find it bizarre? It is an effective brainwashing and propaganda tool, seems to be worth its money, I have to talk to its patients every day.
    Well, the Moscow Times is obviously not under his control.

    Similar TV news channel situation in US. All the mainstream TV channels (except for Fox) are all Obama poodles. When it comes to reporting on Russia, they are all (including Fox) 100% in the bag for Obama.

    You will be delighted to know that RT is available here in rural Kansas. I don't have a TV, but I was surprised to see RT channel in lounge while I waited for my car to be fixed. I asked other people waiting about it, someone said, "It's just news." I said "It's RT - Russian Tevelivion - Russian propaganda, a good balance for CNN propaganda. Cool!" The manager said, it's just there, part of the cable package. He had no idea what it was. Then I went to another garage to get an oil change for the car, and they had a TV there in that lounge, and again I found RT. "It comes with the cable package," the mechanic said.

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    Well, the Moscow Times is obviously not under his control.
    How many Russians know English fluently and read Moscow Times do you think? One thousand people? Ten thousand people? Maybe twenty thousand people?
    The audience of Rossiya24 and Channel 1 - many millions, surely well over 100 million people. It is all about the numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedikt View Post




    it is a show for local and international consumption.
    when the -Mishka- replaced VV as president it was obvious who pulled the strings anyway.
    same now....
    So..just a basic, cynical & rudametory way of trying to fool ones citizenry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Lad View Post
    How many Russians know English fluently and read Moscow Times do you think? One thousand people? Ten thousand people? Maybe twenty thousand people?
    The audience of Rossiya24 and Channel 1 - many millions, surely well over 100 million people. It is all about the numbers.
    In Kansas, in farm country, there is a majority which knows the TV "news" has a bad odor about it, they reject it as part of the Big Brother-Washington and wish the government would stop micromanaging their lives.

    I think similarly, most Russians, like you, are intelligent enough to see their TV news as mostly propaganda, or at least agenda-driven. The hypocrisy and logical holes are big enough to drive through with a KAMAZ truck.

    About Moscow Times, from their "contact us" page:

    The Moscow Times is the founding publication of Sanoma Independent Media (SIM) Publishing House, which was established as Independent Media in March 1992 by a group of Dutch investors headed by Derk Sauer.

    SIM is now the largest player in the Russian media market, with a portfolio that includes more than 50 publications and projects with a cumulative readership about 12 million and about 25 percent share of the glossy advertising market.

    Moscow Times has 50 publications in the Russian media market? 12 million readers? They are not all in English, I would wager...

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    In Kansas, in farm country, there is a majority which knows the TV "news" has a bad odor about it, they reject it as part of the Big Brother-Washington and wish the government would stop micromanaging their lives.

    I think similarly, most Russians, like you, are intelligent enough to see their TV news as mostly propaganda, or at least agenda-driven. The hypocrisy and logical holes are big enough to drive through with a KAMAZ truck.
    No, most Russians are not intelligent enough. Many zombies even here on this forum, amazing but true. I hope some will begin wisening up after the food emery stuck up their arses by their own government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Lad View Post
    No, most Russians are not intelligent enough. Many zombies even here on this forum, amazing but true. I hope some will begin wisening up after the food emery stuck up their arses by their own government.
    Yes, in US, zombies are called "low-information voters."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Lad View Post
    How many Russians know English fluently and read Moscow Times do you think? One thousand people? Ten thousand people? Maybe twenty thousand people?
    The audience of Rossiya24 and Channel 1 - many millions, surely well over 100 million people. It is all about the numbers.
    Er, even you could be trained written English.... and you are a Russian, I recon.
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    Er, even you could be trained written English.... and you are a Russian, I recon.
    You imply I haven't been trained spoken English?
    Any person can become fluent in English if he is trained properly and long enough. But I am not under the impression that the English language proficiency is widely spread among the Russians. You harbor a different view?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Lad View Post
    You imply I haven't been trained spoken English?
    Any person can become fluent in English if he is trained properly and long enough. But I am not under the impression that the English language proficiency is widely spread among the Russians. You harbor a different view?
    You have to realize Lad, Penka has not lived in the Rodina for many, many years. She's probably not the most 'up to date' on what the real situation is on the ground in Russia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    You have to realize Lad, Penka has not lived in the Rodina for many, many years. She's probably not the most 'up to date' on what the real situation is on the ground in Russia...
    I'm flattered you are so interested in my biography and lifestyle, carl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Lad View Post
    You imply I haven't been trained spoken English?
    Any person can become fluent in English if he is trained properly and long enough. But I am not under the impression that the English language proficiency is widely spread among the Russians. You harbor a different view?
    Never heard you speaking, so had to stick to the facts, if you understand how I mean.
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