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    Blocking whole websites, not just 'offensive' pages

    Say goodbye to half the internet when this becomes law...


    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/busine...es/468992.html

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    Will never happen, or VK, facebook, youtube will be first on the list.
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    Thanks a lot rusmeister, you just single handily blocked expat.ru.

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    There was a story a while back in the MT about VVP wanting to be more like China. The internet censorship was thought to be one of the goals. Stops them foreigners.

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    I will join violent protests if this happens. Never went out into the street to protest, but it will be the time... Meanwhile, Molotov cocktail making procedures are rather handy...

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    I guess many torrent and download sites will be blacklisted under this new law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardB View Post
    Say goodbye to half the internet when this becomes law...

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/busine...es/468992.html

    If I am reading the article correctly, the proposed law seems specific towards child porn & associated sites like trafficking in children.



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    This is of course a matter of working out the implementation details of a law that is de facto already in place. Blocking a whole site is much easier than muddling through all those individual inflammatory webpages. Also, in order to block certain content, the only way to do it is to block a whole site: most content-driven sites automatically generate webpages, to block each individually generated piece of web-content is simply practically impossible.

    It's remarkable, though, that this practical issue is being looked at so late. But then, Facebook's mr Zuckerberg was having a chat with the Prime Minister Medvedev today, maybe some tips were exchanged.

    From our side, us all complying to the forum rules should largely work. And we all have some responsibility there.

    Apart from that, maybe we'll need some parts, e.g. Bardak, to be really members only, and mark the adult areas more explicitly as being 18+, etc. Common sense and some legal advice will go a long way.
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    Also "extremist material" is in focus. E.g. "The Innocence Of Muslims" film has been marked as extremist, so that's something that can be risky to have on your site.

    Quote Originally Posted by robertmf View Post

    If I am reading the article correctly, the proposed law seems specific towards child porn & associated sites like trafficking in children.

    We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

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    What you mean "we", Kemo Sabe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ezik View Post
    Also "extremist material" is in focus. E.g. "The Innocence Of Muslims" film has been marked as extremist, so that's something that can be risky to have on your site.
    Not risky on "my site" - the servers are in North Carolina and Texas





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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Lad View Post
    I will join violent protests if this happens. Never went out into the street to protest, but it will be the time... Meanwhile, Molotov cocktail making procedures are rather handy...
    Wow, imagine it, Internet Bride sites closed down! The ladies would take to the streets in despair and in their thousands - I wouldn't want to mess with them!
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    Wow, imagine it, Internet Bride sites closed down! The ladies would take to the streets in despair and in their thousands - I wouldn't want to mess with them!
    That's exactly what I am saying! Femen and those violent pussies will seem like an innocent interlude then!

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    You would love to mess with them, Tolko. Just admit it.

    Quote Originally Posted by TolkoRaz View Post
    Wow, imagine it, Internet Bride sites closed down! The ladies would take to the streets in despair and in their thousands - I wouldn't want to mess with them!
    We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

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    Not risky on "my site" - the servers are in North Carolina and Texas
    That's where you are deeply mistaken - they still can be blocked, even false IPs will not help - nothing these days. It is easier than you may think... Peace of cake. Or you think youtube/wiki servers are located in Moscow? Why do you think they are worried?

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    We´re hosted by a US Company (not funded, LOL), but when it comes to complying with rules, the physical location of the business and the people running it is far more important.

    Sites outside Russia and not run by people residing on Russian territory could be very easily blocked. Just adding an IP address to the blocked list, nothing technical, any clerk can do it.

    False IPs? We dealt with false IPs and we block them pretty effectively with a tool that cost just a few dollars. And I can imagine the Russian authorities having a budget that is slightly bigger than ours.

    For me, it's all not too shocking and dramatic. Comply with local rules if you want the site to exist, and use and explore the room you have within that framework. But it has been like that for years.
    We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

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