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    The British & their Red Coats

    During the recent royal wedding, millions around the world saw that Prince William chose to wear a uniform that included the famous British "red coat."

    Many people have asked, "Why did the British wear red coats in battle?"

    A long time ago, Britain and France were at war. During one battle, the French captured a British Colonel. They took him to their headquarters, and the French General began to question him. Finally, as an afterthought, the French General asked, "Why do you British officers all wear red coats? Don't you know the red material makes you easier targets for us to shoot at?"

    In his casual, matter-of-fact, way, the officer informed the General that the reason British officers wear red coats is so that if they are wounded, the blood won't show, and the men they are leading wouldn't panic or run away
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    And that is why, from that day forward, all French Army officers wear brown trousers!
    Если враг в пределах досягаемости, то и вы тоже!


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    Hahaha I m french, loves your story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TolkoRaz View Post
    And that is why, from that day forward, all French Army officers wear brown trousers!
    But they do it since 1915th, while UK troops wear that khaki since 1899-1902 (second England-Boer war)

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    As was explained to me, by a Marine instructor - it was the marines that popularized the wearing of the red, in days of yore when Britannia ruled the waves the HM's Royal Navy was largely staffed by expendable unskilled casual labour, (other than gunners, cooks and carpenters), who not only had to arm themselves but also sailed in their own pajamas - apparently the Dutch and the French had a fairly similar approach to the lower ranks and only the Spanish bothered with uniformed staff - thus in close combat it was a bit hard to understand who was who - basically left to their own devices Johnnie Jack tar either fell drunkenly in love with his foreign counterpart, or had about anybody close enough to him in a drunken brawl improvising with furniture, kitchen tools and home made death devices - it all got a bit more complicated and capital intensive with the introduction of skilled and expensively armed Marines - who unlike the gunners had to be outside on the open deck to perform their fighting roles adequately and therefore needed a degree of differentiation - the bright colors and the big white sash are there to show even the drunkest of sailors there were easier targets for their rage. As the Navy was substantially more wealthy than the army until relatively recently the economies of scale were such that everybody ended up wearing red.

    As was explained to me by my father a lifelong professional soldier, all Marines are just wanna be soldiers with a penchant for sailors, and they are unable to invent anything except reasons why they didn't join God's chosen club, the British Army - the real reason, according to my Dad, that the British army wore Red was to give Johnnie foreigner a fighting chance to run away, remember at the same time they were wearing scarlet they also had huge numbers of drummers and people playing whistles, together with 2 metre square flags and gambling prostitutes - stand out big red noisy blocks of people are pretty awe inspiring especially if they are giving it large that they are coming to kill you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TolkoRaz View Post
    And that is why, from that day forward, all French Army officers wear brown trousers!
    Is that Claude Rains?
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    I think French soldiers are very brave ones.

    In fact, French and English soldiers won a WWI.

    To be honest, when travelled France I was surprised how many monuments are set up all over the country in memory of soldiers killed in WWI.
    Even small and tiny villages has such monument, let alone the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier from WWI beneath the Arc de Triomphe in the heart of Paris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
    - the real reason, according to my Dad, that the British army wore Red was to give Johnnie foreigner a fighting chance to run away, remember at the same time they were wearing scarlet they also had huge numbers of drummers and people playing whistles, together with 2 metre square flags and gambling prostitutes - stand out big red noisy blocks of people are pretty awe inspiring especially if they are giving it large that they are coming to kill you.
    Obviously the limey logic was flawed (re: American Revolution)

    June 17th 1775 Battle of Bunker Hill (s.i.c.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by robertmf View Post
    Obviously the limey logic was flawed (re: American Revolution)

    June 17th 1775 Battle of Bunker Hill (s.i.c.)
    I think the big problem with this logic was that the Revolutionaries were in on the trick, with vast numbers of the US forces having undergone British military training in tactics and strategies from GW down, they were never going to fall for the shout loud and look determined gambit, the other aspects that truly played in the US's favour (and also came into play in Ireland and Palestine later) was you guy's were fighting for your homes and freedom, Johnnie Redcoats was war weary, a long way from home and fighting for a system that oppressed him, well played Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
    As was explained to me, by a Marine instructor - it was the marines that popularized the wearing of the red, in days of yore when Britannia ruled the waves the HM's Royal Navy was largely staffed by expendable unskilled casual labour, (other than gunners, cooks and carpenters), who not only had to arm themselves but also sailed in their own pajamas - apparently the Dutch and the French had a fairly similar approach to the lower ranks and only the Spanish bothered with uniformed staff - thus in close combat it was a bit hard to understand who was who - basically left to their own devices Johnnie Jack tar either fell drunkenly in love with his foreign counterpart, or had about anybody close enough to him in a drunken brawl improvising with furniture, kitchen tools and home made death devices - it all got a bit more complicated and capital intensive with the introduction of skilled and expensively armed Marines - who unlike the gunners had to be outside on the open deck to perform their fighting roles adequately and therefore needed a degree of differentiation - the bright colors and the big white sash are there to show even the drunkest of sailors there were easier targets for their rage. As the Navy was substantially more wealthy than the army until relatively recently the economies of scale were such that everybody ended up wearing red.

    As was explained to me by my father a lifelong professional soldier, all Marines are just wanna be soldiers with a penchant for sailors, and they are unable to invent anything except reasons why they didn't join God's chosen club, the British Army - the real reason, according to my Dad, that the British army wore Red was to give Johnnie foreigner a fighting chance to run away, remember at the same time they were wearing scarlet they also had huge numbers of drummers and people playing whistles, together with 2 metre square flags and gambling prostitutes - stand out big red noisy blocks of people are pretty awe inspiring especially if they are giving it large that they are coming to kill you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Droidage View Post
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    Apologies to the French members in Advance

    Ok I will join in.

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    British Hospitality

    Along the same theme
    Apologies to the French members in Advance.

    An American tourist in London decides to skip his tour group and explore the city on his own. He wanders around, seeing the sights, and occasionally stopping at a quaint pub to soak up the local culture, chat with the lads, and have a pint of Guinness.

    After a while, he finds himself in a very high class neighbourhood.....big, stately residences... no pubs, no stores, no restaurants, and worst of all... NO PUBLIC TOILETS.

    He really, really has to go, after all those Guinness's.

    He finds a narrow side street, with high walls surrounding the adjacent buildings and decides to use the wall to solve his problem.

    As he is unzipping, he is tapped on the shoulder by a London Bobby, who says, "I say, sir, you simply cannot do that here, you know."

    "I'm very sorry, officer," replies the American, "but I really, really HAVE TO GO, and I just can't find a public toilet."

    "Ah, yes," said the bobby..."Just follow me".

    He leads him to a back "delivery alley", then along a wall to a gate, which he opens.

    "In there," points the bobby. "Whiz away sir, anywhere you want."

    The fellow enters and finds himself in the most beautiful garden he has ever seen. Manicured grass lawns, statuary, fountains, sculpted hedges, and huge beds of gorgeous flowers, all in perfect bloom.

    Since he has the cop's blessing, he unburdens himself and is greatly relieved.

    As he goes back through the gate, he says to the bobby, "That was really decent of you... is that what you call 'English Hospitality'?"

    "No, sir" replies the bobby, "that is what we call the French Embassy."
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    Well the Brits weren't known for their army, it was their Navy that was feared and "ruled the waves"... and of course the Navy is the senior service....
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