Coming across the wire, France has just announced its unconditional surrender to Libya!
Never saw that coming :P
Jedi Knight
Coming across the wire, France has just announced its unconditional surrender to Libya!
Never saw that coming :P
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and who cares about law,it is a prostitute, you use it when it suits you and then discard it.Originally Posted by xSnoofovich
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French surrender jokes are so lame. Few countries have such a record of military achievements as France. Germany surrendered twice within 100 years after being formed. Still, the Germans are somehow great soldiers, while the French, the military juggernaut of Europe for many centuries, are being ridiculed every step of the way. Shows a complete lack of historical sense.
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France fires on Libyan military vehicle
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110319/...ibya_diplomacy
Jedi Knight
Fair enough but looking at more recent history.......
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Thanks Snoof, I needed that.Best laugh I've had in days.
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US and Soviet defeats ("No, we didn't lose the war, we just left...") are more recent than the French one in WW2 where people keep referring to. And the Germans lost the 2 major wars they were involved in, whereas France was, without a doubt, the backbone of the coalition that won one of those, the first one. Russia without that much land to trade for time, Britain without the Channel? All would have gone the way of France in WW2, just like Poland, the Low Countries, Scandinavia and the Balkan nations. There just weren't that many options open to the French and one should also note that while the French establishment surrendered, considerable parts of the French military and population kept resisting the Germans, just like, for example, the Czechs and Poles.
The view of the French as being surrender monkeys is very one sided at best and doesn't do justice to the part France played in last century's major wars.
If you want to make fun of a major European power's military prowess, pick Italy.
Jedi Knight
Well I guess the French are a little different. Half the country became Vichy France and worked FOR the Germans...Australian soldiers in World War 2 had to fight the French Foreign Legion in Palestine...
So yeah I guess more than surrendering, actually changing sides is something they can be remembered for.
Oh and so many fit, strong young men died with Napoleon that the average French man is now shorter and stockier than others in Europe(German casualties in World war 2 were actually quite low.) So perhaps a lesser soldier they now make, who knows.
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