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DPG
10-05-2004, 19:44
Who do you think is/was the best James Bond?

Which is your favourite James Bond film?

Who was the sexiest/most beautiful Bond Girl?

My favourite for the first two questions are seemingly unpopular choices which no one else (other than one of my best friends in England) generally chooses:

Timothy Dalton and The Living Daylights.

Hard to explain why, but I like the fact that he lent a slightly more serious side to the role with a bit less of the tongue-in-cheek gags that had become so frequent in the Roger Moore films (although the first James Bond film I ever saw starred Roger Moore, so there is a definite sentimental value connected with him in that role!).

As for the film, I like the way that they carried on the fight against the Russians even though the cold war had finished:p, and the fact that it is a very 'international' film, with scenes in about 7 countries. Also the plot is pretty good, and slightly different to the standard James Bond stuff (well it still had the cars, gadgets, girls, guns, bombs etc so it wasn't that different!!).

Although Maryam d' Abo was really sexy as the Czech cellist in the above film, my vote for the third question would have to go to Babara Bach in "The Spy Who Loved Me"....droooooool!!

What about you people??

Braders
10-05-2004, 20:19
Let's not forget David Niven who starred in Casino Royale :p

Has to be Sean Connery, Pierce Brosnan is doing a good job, although he is being tipped to be replaced by Colin Farrell?

Who could forget the great Bond film 'Moonraker' with a villain who would even terrify Boscoe on a boozers night ;)

trebor
10-05-2004, 20:29
DPG
C'mon Timothy Dalton????
if he was so good why didn't they keep him and what has he done since??????
I like Pierce Brosnan but the best was Connery, i know its become a cliche but its true. AND of course he was very confident in himself walking away from it at the hight of Bond fame to go on and do........................well, we know what!!!
Who could be better? Who's a better actor for christ sakes?
The bond films are suffering from fatigue, its the biggest challenge they face of course. What other film has spawned so many remakes? NONE! A British epic through and through!
The Broccoli brothers rule!!

Best Bond girl?
Most were bimbos. But can you believe Jane Seymore and Diana Rigg were both Bond girls?
But my choice is Ursula Andres because i had my first w**k to her in SHE!

Ned Kelly
10-05-2004, 20:45
On Her Majesty's Secret Service was, I think, far and away the best film.

Candy Lollipop
10-05-2004, 20:46
Roger Moore was the best Bond, yet i like Connery too.

DPG
10-05-2004, 20:59
Ned - You only think that because Lazenby was an Aussie...!

Zachariah
10-05-2004, 21:05
Roger Moore, You could tell the whole thing was just a paycheck for him. He never took it very seriously and it came through in his acting. What the hell was Moonraker about anyway? How campy can you get.
Z

Ned Kelly
10-05-2004, 21:09
DPG, am I that transparent?:p

No, I just think it had the strongest/deepest plot. Not sure George was that great as Bond himself, though I would never have owned up to that if you hadn't outed me.

I like Sean Connery, but I think Roger Moore grew into the role with time; Bond sort of became more fun on his watch.

Alethea
10-05-2004, 21:09
Zach,

Roger Moore was the best BECAUSE he never took it seriously.
It's what the whole Bond story is about:)

Best Bond girl is Halle Berry ( and I absolutely hate Brosnan! he debases the very idea of Bond character)

Ned Kelly
10-05-2004, 21:14
I became a bit of a Pierce convert (it's a bit like you Russians with your tsar/president, you can;t help but defend the Bond of the time) when he surfed into North Korea.

DPG
10-05-2004, 21:16
Um Alethea - I don't believe that Zach was saying that RM was the best...quite the opposite actually!

Ned - Have to agree with you plot-wise re. OHMSS - quite interesting, and rather more "realistic" than many of them which have followed.

Surfing in Korea was good, but the opener of Golden Eye with the bungee jump of a huge 'Russian' dam was even better!!

Ned Kelly
10-05-2004, 21:17
Next question of course is who was the best villain?

I'm with Braders, Jaws is too cool. And Moonraker was the first Bond film I saw, which showed his warmer side (and last performace).:p

DPG
10-05-2004, 21:20
Villians - Jaws was the first one I ever saw (Moonraker was also my first Bond film). When I was back home in December, I took the opportunity to visit my dentist and there on the wall of the surgery was an article from a newspaper about a guy who had paid £10,000 to have his teeth transformed into those very same "cablecar-wire crunching" silver gnashers!!

Also, can't remember the name but the big coloured guy in "Live and Let Die" with the kind of huge pair of pliers instead of a hand - met his match on the train when he became fastened to the grab-rail.

OddJob from Gold Finger was another great one!

Alethea
10-05-2004, 21:26
DPG,
thanks, you are right, I will edit my post:)

Ned Kelly
10-05-2004, 21:28
Love the dentist story DPG:p

And you're right, Goldfinger was cool. It's a bit of a coyote-road-runner thing, when I watched Goldfinger recently on NTV I really wished he'd won the duel. He had more class than Roger Moore there.

Zachariah
10-05-2004, 21:32
Originally posted by DPG
Um Alethea - I don't believe that Zach was saying that RM was the best...quite the opposite actually!
DPG, I did in fact vote for Roger Moore. The guy had all the Bond qualities but thought it was a joke. Like myself, he is nothing less than a prostitute for cash. You want to pay me a Million bucks to snog with Barbara Bach...............well ok then!
Z

DPG
10-05-2004, 21:49
Zach - you wouldn't have had to pay me anywhere near a million to have done that!! (wonder what she looks like now and how much you'd have to pay me!!). Interesting that you as a Yank use the word 'snog'!! Is it the first time you have done so!!??

Who the heck voted for Lazenby?? Do you think Ned might know?!

Ned Kelly
10-05-2004, 21:55
Yes, I confesss. I didn't want to see George voteless.

And the best line from Bond? I still think Q's in Moonraker "I believe he's attempting re-entry, sir" has to be up there among them.:p

britmikh
10-05-2004, 22:01
I refrained from voting for connery as obviously most are gonna vote for him. After Sean for me it has to be Dalton he brought a new style and feel to both the films that he did. But now I feel the Bond films are running dry and the last 2 have just been piss poor in my opinion. The whole Bond thing needs some new direction as it is just getting too tiresome to watch the same old plot all the time. maybe they should bring some more Human elements into it like Dalton did in Licence to Kill - yes it was'nt the best, but at least it was a little different -Bond avenging his buddy and all that.

DPG
10-05-2004, 22:03
Britmikh - You get a beer from me when you get to Moscow - another Dalton appreciator...hurrah!

I also rather like the dark edge to Licence to Kill, showed the guy was only human...

britmikh
10-05-2004, 22:07
I'll hold you to that!! (Can you get a decent pint of bitter in Moskva???)
So put me in your diary for the 6th of September!:)

DPG
10-05-2004, 22:11
Molly's have Bombardier Ale on tap and a few others sell Caffreys and similar brews, but generally, the answer is no!!

Sure you wouldn't prefer to join me in a vodka-martini??:D

You can get a few 'dark beers' which people tell me aren't bad though...drop me a PM when you get here, in fact drop me one before you leave because I'll have run out of Marmite by then!!:p

sandman
10-05-2004, 22:12
Timothy Dalton looked like some sort of constpitated weasal to me. I didn;t appreciate his siding with the towel-heads against the great Soviet Army and defenders of the Motherland, the KGB.

I like Pierce Brosnan though, he looks and has the class for a Bond.

Weasal-phobe, Sandy.

britmikh
10-05-2004, 22:19
Originally posted by sandman
Timothy Dalton looked like some sort of constpitated weasal to me. I didn;t appreciate his siding with the towel-heads against the great Soviet Army and defenders of the Motherland, the KGB.

I like Pierce Brosnan though, he looks and has the class for a Bond.

Weasal-phobe, Sandy.
I've never seen a constipated weasel, But personally I think Brosnan is shite, all his other non-Bond films are also shite! He has an awkward feel about him, he just does'nt seem natural in anything he does.

DPG
10-05-2004, 22:24
I disagree with you here:

I think that Brosnan makes a good Bond, if a tad on the smarmy side (although not in the same league as Moore). He is also a decent actor - his role as another spy in "The Tailor of Panama" showed that he can pull-off playing the bad guy/unlikable character with ease and class...

I think the weakness of his Bond films is the re-hashed and "seen this 1000 times before" plotlines as opposed to his Bond.

britmikh
10-05-2004, 22:29
Well each to thier own ...I don't like Brosnan and I have'nt liked any of the characters I have seen him play. Sorry.
How about a discussion on who should be the next Bond?? (if anyone says Hugh Grant they will be shot)

DPG
10-05-2004, 22:33
Well unfortunately I'm busy so I can't be the next Bond!!

I heard a rumour that the guy who played the valet in Gosford Park and the "Professor" in The Bourne Identity was going to be the next one...can't remember his name for the life of me...something Owen perhaps?? Anyone know?

Ned Kelly
10-05-2004, 22:45
i know i'm obviously behind on my bond, but why is brosnan leaving - sacked or didn;t like it?

DPG
10-05-2004, 22:48
I don't think it is 100% certain yet - just rumours in papers and the like, but I from what I have heard, he asked for too much money to do the next one and the producers said no. I could be wrong though...

Ned Kelly
10-05-2004, 22:59
i hope so. it's one thing to change your bond each decade/generation, but every couple of episodes is just plain wrong.

Polia Ivanova
11-05-2004, 00:39
Rodger Moor

“A view to a kill” was the first Bond movie I have seen and it blew my mind. I still think it is the best although they do not rate it too much and it was the last Rodger Moor’s one. Polia Ivanova is from this film (minor episode in a spa).

I think Brosnan and Connery are damn good too. In “Golden Eye” when Brosnan fixes his tie driving a tank in St Petersburg – cool.

No poll for the best villain – actually my favourite actor too – I just love Christopher Walken – the villain of “A view to a kill”. Gosh, he can act with his eyes only it is just amazing.

J.D.
11-05-2004, 04:44
Have to go with Timothy Dalton. Sean Connery is defintely good but I think the only reason he might beat out Dalton is because he was first and he defined the role.

From Russia with Love is probably the best plot ever with definitely the best, what's the word-not antagonist exactly, lets say 'bad guy's muscle'. But it is difficult for a 40 year old film to compete with a modern production.

As a kid I thought Moore was great but as an adult I say only his first two were worth watching. The rest he was too old, lazy and tired-as were the writers.

Ok, a free beer for whoever can tell me the theatrical term for the antagonist's muscle guy.

Jet
11-05-2004, 09:27
I also think Timothy Dalton was the best, he brings more drama to the image of the spy. Brosnan is too sleazy, Connery was OK but not more than that, Moore was too soft. Lazenby - I think he played well a broken-hearted spy when his fiance was shot dead, and he looked more realistic as a spy, but then again - too realistic.

Limitchik
11-05-2004, 10:15
Look, I'm sorry, but if you didn't vote for Connery, you're just plumb wrong !

Connery WAS the quintessential Bond ("I'm sorry, that's a Smith and Wesson. You've had your six"); ruthless, cunning, corrupt, handsome, and witty.

Moore ? The dude was an old fart wearing a girdle ! I liked View to a Kill (Walken in particular), but a 50+ year old (and looking it) spy prancing about the Golden Gate Bridge and shagging 20 something birds stretches the limits of plausibility in my book.

Dalton ? Man was too much of a goody-two-shoes cad to be a good Bond. He looks too moral.

Brosnan ? Decent, but there's no more of the indiscriminate killing (like in Dr. No) that made Bond such a dually mean yet likeable hero. He's too sanitized and girly.

So, it's Connery. I think we can end the discussion on this note.

Thank you,
Limitchik

kak
11-05-2004, 11:20
i did not read all this... but, only Sean Connery= James Bond :agree: nothing else to say ;)