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Guest
29-04-2008, 18:37
In this post (http://www.expat.ru/forum/expat-cafe/77768-dear-russians.html#post381648) our beloved Sal wrote "I have discussed my thesis on russian nationalism and got the highest grade available"

Every expat should be proud that one of them has such a success with a theme about Russia, and every Russian should be happy that a foreigner worked at a so high level on such a topic.

To see the quality of Sal's superb work, I am publicly asking him to post his thesis here on this forum.

Thank you in advance!

kirk10071
29-04-2008, 18:40
In this post (http://www.expat.ru/forum/expat-cafe/77768-dear-russians.html#post381648) our beloved Sal wrote "I have discussed my thesis on russian nationalism and got the highest grade available"

Every expat should be proud that one of them has such a success with a theme about Russia, and every Russian should be happy that a foreigner worked at a so high level on such a topic.

To see the quality of Sal's superb work, I am publicly asking him to post his thesis here on this forum.

Thank you in advance!

Show us your thesis, Sal! Don't be a baby! Put your money where your mouth is!

SalTheReturn
29-04-2008, 19:58
Hello!!!

I may decide to post soon my thesis in here www.tesionline.it

you can then download for 30euros, I get 50% of that

I do not understand why I should give out my thesis for free, so much hard work, so many books in english, so much stress, this is why I got all the 6 points available

whats yr problem guys???:fridaysign:

Guest
29-04-2008, 20:47
LOL what a scammer!!!!

Thesis, if REAL, are available for free in all universities. Just have to pay the paper for xerocopies!

Moreover, WHERE is your thesis on tesionline.it? Must I publish your full ID so people will be able to search for it, or will you supply a direct link?

I now begin to believe that Sal's thesis is as his knowledge of Russia: All in his imagination :( Tesionline is a private website where anybody can publish what he wants. Sal, supply a link to the university website where you exposed your thesis!!!!!



Hello!!!

I may decide to post soon my thesis in here www.tesionline.it (http://www.tesionline.it)

you can then download for 30euros, I get 50% of that

I do not understand why I should give out my thesis for free, so much hard work, so many books in english, so much stress, this is why I got all the 6 points available

whats yr problem guys???:fridaysign:

SalTheReturn
29-04-2008, 21:39
can you at least make sure you read my messages???

i said "i may decide to post it on tesionline"

and to check my thesis on the university website you need to enrol at my uniiversity, get a library card and enjoy all resources

unfortunately i did not sign up permission for consultation, that means even being a student at my uni you cannot consult my thesis

this is because i am sure my work can be sold and cant risk other people steal my intellectual property

once again my dear: whats yr problem? what bother u?

Guest
29-04-2008, 23:19
LOL Sal you make me LAUGH! Thesis are public in universities, no need to have a library card! But why don't you send short parts of it, on this forum? There are many Russians that would probably congratulate you about your hard work!

And don't worry for me, I have no problem, but I wouldn't like to think that you have a problem by imaginating that you wrote a thesis :D

kirk10071
29-04-2008, 23:29
You will never post your thesis because you are AFRAID. Post it on your Italy/Russia forum (where your login is EDITED), and there is nothing on THAT forum except a bunch of boring little Italian teenagers who hang on your every word because you once spent a few months in Russia a LONG time ago. You are banned from Russia, but they don't know that. I have seen your posts. You pretend you are all expert and you pontificate about Russia and pretend you know everything, but here, sadly, you cannot do that. You cannot do that because WE are IN Russia, and we know more than you about Russia these days. You will never post your thesis anywhere where we can get it because you know that WE, unlike your "professors" at Florence State Poli Sci dept, will know if you are full of **** or not.

Post it on your other forum for your fans to Ohh and Ahh, "Oh you are SOOOO smart, EDITED, I bet you don't live with your mom or anything" but on expat, you will get a fair treatment. PROVE your knowledge, Sal. POST YOUR THESIS.

SalTheReturn
29-04-2008, 23:30
LOL Sal you make me LAUGH! Thesis are public in universities, no need to have a library card! But why don't you send short parts of it, on this forum? There are many Russians that would probably congratulate you about your hard work!

And don't worry for me, I have no problem, but I wouldn't like to think that you have a problem by imaginating that you wrote a thesis :D

a thesis is compulsory to complete your higher education career, so i did one to get my diploma

i really dont understand whats the fuss is about nor whats so strange

i have written a thesis and i got the maximum grade. that as easy as that.

in order to enter our university library you need to be a student here. the same applies if you wanna go through the online library...whats strange in that?

tell me also for what reason i should send you or other my thesis...all of you think i am retarded, so let it be this way.

pjw
29-04-2008, 23:34
:applause::applause:Hi Sal, I would definitely love to read your thesis. The topic is interesting. Its great respect for all of us on forum that one of us excels. We are all the winners - all of us - because you have talked a bit about YOUR THESIS on forum and gotten some feedback. :applause:I wonder what language it is written in Sal? Italian, Russian, English? If its in English it would be my pleasure to translate it into German for you. As you got full marks, itll be published as a book anyway of course. Gratulatione Sal and respect! :applause::applause:

Miracle77777
29-04-2008, 23:40
Hello!!!

I may decide to post soon my thesis in here www.tesionline.it

you can then download for 30euros, I get 50% of that

I do not understand why I should give out my thesis for free, so much hard work, so many books in english, so much stress, this is why I got all the 6 points available

whats yr problem guys???:fridaysign:

To be honest - 15 euro is not good enough for such a hard work also;)

But still - I see no point to be so mean with your fans, who wants to consider your big-work and to express our respect :gay: :applause:

Footnote: what about a kind of barter??

kirk10071
29-04-2008, 23:42
To be honest - 15 euro is not good enough for such a hard work also;)

I will happily pay the 15.

Miracle77777
29-04-2008, 23:43
I will happily pay the 15.

Kesarevo kesaru....;)

Guest
29-04-2008, 23:47
tell me also for what reason i should send you or other my thesis...

For the SAME reason that you proudly posted here "I wrote a thesis"! NYou began, now you must continue!



all of you think i am retarded, so let it be this way.



So finally you are saying that you didn't write any thesis...
And you know, even "retarded" are able to write a thesis :)

pjw
29-04-2008, 23:48
If everyone on forum paid you 15 or at least 10, 7 minimum, ok 5. Sal, jump at the opportunity, you could end up making a pretty penny if everyone paid. I know they would!

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 01:30
You will never post your thesis because you are AFRAID. Post it on your Italy/Russia forum (where your login is EDITED), and there is nothing on THAT forum except a bunch of boring little Italian teenagers who hang on your every word because you once spent a few months in Russia a LONG time ago. You are banned from Russia, but they don't know that. I have seen your posts. You pretend you are all expert and you pontificate about Russia and pretend you know everything, but here, sadly, you cannot do that. You cannot do that because WE are IN Russia, and we know more than you about Russia these days. You will never post your thesis anywhere where we can get it because you know that WE, unlike your "professors" at Florence State Poli Sci dept, will know if you are full of **** or not.

Post it on your other forum for your fans to Ohh and Ahh, "Oh you are SOOOO smart, EDITED, I bet you don't live with your mom or anything" but on expat, you will get a fair treatment. PROVE your knowledge, Sal. POST YOUR THESIS.

KIRK ARE YOU GOING CRAZY REALLY???

I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF YOU AS A MILD MANNERED ADULT PROFESSIONAL BUT YOU ARE JUST SHOWING OFF THE WORST OF YOURSELF

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RUSSIA? IMPOSSIBLE MY FRIEND, READ TOO MANY BOOKS, TALKED TO TOO MANY PEOPLE, POSSESS A GENUINE INTEREST IN THE COUNTRY AND EXPLORED IT FOR 18 MONTHS

I HEREBY STATE THAT IT IS NOT MY WISH TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ANY SORT OF ISSUE AND I AM AMAZED AT SEEING WHAT A SHALLOW PIECE OF CRAP YOU ARE

AH, AND YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED

TAKE CARE RUDE KIRK, I AM OFF

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 01:34
:applause::applause:Hi Sal, I would definitely love to read your thesis. The topic is interesting. Its great respect for all of us on forum that one of us excels. We are all the winners - all of us - because you have talked a bit about YOUR THESIS on forum and gotten some feedback. :applause:I wonder what language it is written in Sal? Italian, Russian, English? If its in English it would be my pleasure to translate it into German for you. As you got full marks, itll be published as a book anyway of course. Gratulatione Sal and respect! :applause::applause:

thank you for showing some manner, recently they are all going rude very rude

Kirk is even lose his diplomacy

Kirk reminds me now the shallowest of all expat.ru individual: J.c.

LOL LOL

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 01:36
To be honest - 15 euro is not good enough for such a hard work also;)

But still - I see no point to be so mean with your fans, who wants to consider your big-work and to express our respect :gay: :applause:

Footnote: what about a kind of barter??

express my respect to who!!!

have you seen their language?

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 01:39
For the SAME reason that you proudly posted here "I wrote a thesis"! NYou began, now you must continue!






So finally you are saying that you didn't write any thesis...
And you know, even "retarded" are able to write a thesis :)

thats absolutely true, this is why i have never taken university seriously. life experiences were much more important.

however i think getting the maximum points it is not a thing everyone can do.

TD
30-04-2008, 02:22
uh oh Sal - looks like someone leaked it to the internet!

just saw this on a big torrent site --->

13587

Guest
30-04-2008, 09:30
Panic in Sal City :D :D


KIRK ARE YOU GOING CRAZY REALLY???

I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF YOU AS A MILD MANNERED ADULT PROFESSIONAL BUT YOU ARE JUST SHOWING OFF THE WORST OF YOURSELF

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RUSSIA? IMPOSSIBLE MY FRIEND, READ TOO MANY BOOKS, TALKED TO TOO MANY PEOPLE, POSSESS A GENUINE INTEREST IN THE COUNTRY AND EXPLORED IT FOR 18 MONTHS

I HEREBY STATE THAT IT IS NOT MY WISH TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ANY SORT OF ISSUE AND I AM AMAZED AT SEEING WHAT A SHALLOW PIECE OF CRAP YOU ARE

AH, AND YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED

TAKE CARE RUDE KIRK, I AM OFF

kirk10071
30-04-2008, 10:27
Panic in Sal City :D :D

Maybe he was just tired. :snoring:I promise to be nice. :10301:

Per favore, Sal, vogliamo leggere l'opera d'arte che ha impressionato i tuoi professori! :book:

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 13:08
have not u both ended high school long time ago?

you look like dumb and dumber

Guest
30-04-2008, 13:15
have not u both ended high school long time ago?

Had to work very young as I had no mother who could work during I study or even sit at home :(

Sal, tell us the truth: You saw you wrote a thesis in your dreams?

If I would have written one I would be very proud to offer it to reading :) Not you, junior-expert Sal?

kirk10071
30-04-2008, 13:27
have not u both ended high school long time ago?

you look like dumb and dumber

We are merely asking you to publish the thesis so that Russians can no longer "spout crap" at you. :) Why do you resist? Are you not proud of your thesis? We beg you to help us to learn, and you call us unspeakable names. We thirst for your knowledge. We offer to pay, even.

Does this thesis even exist? Send us only the summary at the front!

kirk10071
30-04-2008, 13:58
I think I found it here:

Nationalism in Russia - Research and Read Books, Journals, Articles at Questia Online Library (http://www.questia.com/library/politics-and-government/nationalism-in-russia.jsp)

The link lists the following scholarly works.

11 of the Best Books and Articles on: Nationalism in Russia
as selected by Questia librarians

1. Nationalism and the Breakup of an Empire: Russia and Its Periphery
by Miron Rezun. 200 pgs.

2. On Ruins of Empire: Ethnicity and Nationalism in the Former Soviet Union
by Georgiy I. Mirsky. 185 pgs.

3. Nationalism in the Soviet Union (1933)
by Hans L. Kohn. 166 pgs.

4. Reinventing Russia: Russian Nationalism and the Soviet State, 1953-1991
by Yitzhak M. Brudny. 352 pgs.

5. Communism and Nationalism: Karl Marx Versus Friedrich List
by Roman Szporluk. 314 pgs.

6. Social Identities in Revolutionary Russia
by Madhavan K. Palat. 246 pgs.

7. Empire and Nation in Russian History
by Geoffrey Alan Hosking. 38 pgs.

8. Window on the East: National and Imperial Identities in Late Tsarist Russia by Robert P. Geraci. 389 pgs.

9. Nationalism and Policy toward the Nationalities in the Soviet Union: From Totalitarian Dictatorship to Post-Stalinist Society
by Karen Forster, Oswald Forster, Gerhard Simon. 483 pgs.

10. The Revenge of the Past: Nationalism, Revolution, and the Collapse of the Soviet Union by Ronald Grigor Suny. 202 pgs.

11. How the Rise in Russian Nationalism Could Be Reduced if More Russians Lived With Their Mothers and Spouted Less Crap (2008)
by Sal the Return. 4 pgs.

boscoe
30-04-2008, 14:13
You guys are making 'Sal baiting' into a national sport... It'll end in tears!

jumatre
30-04-2008, 17:58
have not u both ended high school long time ago?

you look like dumb and dumber

Sal, may I say that you are loosing your intelectual charme? :12115:

Clean32
30-04-2008, 18:13
Sal just lied again, how usally.

lol diploma = higher education? i think not

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 20:48
Had to work very young as I had no mother who could work during I study or even sit at home :(

Sal, tell us the truth: You saw you wrote a thesis in your dreams?

If I would have written one I would be very proud to offer it to reading :) Not you, junior-expert Sal?

1)why someone should offer his/her work for free whilst it can be sold or ven better published due to its high quality?
2)what are you concerned about? Option A: that I have not graduated Option B: that I have written no thesis


Well, you grew up during Soviet times, nowadays it is different kettle of fish...

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 20:49
You guys are making 'Sal baiting' into a national sport... It'll end in tears!

no, it will end on May7th

Guest
30-04-2008, 22:04
1)why someone should offer his/her work for free whilst it can be sold or ven better published due to its high quality?
2)what are you concerned about? Option A: that I have not graduated Option B: that I have written no thesis


Well, you grew up during Soviet times, nowadays it is different kettle of fish...

Yes I am concerned if you say lies here, just because I am an ordinary member of this forum and don't like to read (your) lies.

About your "high quality" thesis, who said, as nobody saw it? Even you saw it probably only in your dreams!

About my growth in the soviet time, I can see that most of people who grew up during this time are more and better educated than a few foreigners that came out of the school unable to read and write correctly :)

kirk10071
30-04-2008, 22:24
How embarrassing, Sal, that you tell all the Russians that they can "stop spouting crap" about you because you are now a "junior expert" and you, in point of fact, wrote a thesis you are ashamed of or one that does not even exist. We offered to pay the market rate to see it and we wanted to enjoy your knowledge for the good of the forum, but you have misled us all. :(

Your mama must be so-o-o-o- proud of you. What do you think she is telling her friends?

TGP
30-04-2008, 23:11
You guys are making 'Sal baiting' into a national sport... It'll end in tears!

Yes, and it is really not funny at all.

Reading all aresponses to Sal's posts, I sometimes think that it is Sal who making "guys baiting" ;)

Orion
30-04-2008, 23:18
Yes, and it is really not funny at all.

I disagree. Some of the most entertaing threads on this site are the free-for-alls that start after Sal posts something similarly ridiculous and everyone else chimes in...

MickeyTong
30-04-2008, 23:25
I sometimes think that it is Sal who making "guys baiting" ;)
Yep, he loves it.

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 23:30
Yep, he loves it.

oh yeah you need a degree and psychoterapy to do that???

here you are with another professional loving to play kids role!!!

we have basically 3 members who seems to be really keen on reading a thesis they cant even understand LOL LOL

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 23:32
I disagree. Some of the most entertaing threads on this site are the free-for-alls that start after Sal posts something similarly ridiculous and everyone else chimes in...

well, thats all they can deal with

not only this site gives NO help at all to its members (see noone has corrected my homeowrk several times) but it is also more stupid and banal than the anti-russian western press LOL

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 23:34
mods, where is the customer service?

Kirk has posted a photo which portray my mum and me as terrorists...

can someone care???

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 23:36
How embarrassing, Sal, that you tell all the Russians that they can "stop spouting crap" about you because you are now a "junior expert" and you, in point of fact, wrote a thesis you are ashamed of or one that does not even exist. We offered to pay the market rate to see it and we wanted to enjoy your knowledge for the good of the forum, but you have misled us all. :(

Your mama must be so-o-o-o- proud of you. What do you think she is telling her friends?

why my mum should not be proud? she even cried of joy on Mon!!!

SalTheReturn
30-04-2008, 23:39
Yes I am concerned if you say lies here, just because I am an ordinary member of this forum and don't like to read (your) lies.

About your "high quality" thesis, who said, as nobody saw it? Even you saw it probably only in your dreams!

About my growth in the soviet time, I can see that most of people who grew up during this time are more and better educated than a few foreigners that came out of the school unable to read and write correctly :)

i can answer your question:
a commission of 12 academic professors assessed my thesis, asked me a few questions and decided i had to get the maximum points available.

is the same in russia, in'it? students discuss the thesis and get grade...whats so difficult to understand Guest???:wazzup:

Orion
30-04-2008, 23:39
...the anti-russian western press LOL

are you baiting kirk and Guest with a tease about the motivations for Russian nationalism that you have cited in your thesis???

Orion
30-04-2008, 23:40
mods, where is the customer service?

Kirk has posted a photo which portray my mum and me as terrorists...

can someone care???

Nah...he has just portrayed tehem as fans of any of the Cleveland sports teams

TGP
30-04-2008, 23:44
I disagree. Some of the most entertaing threads on this site are the free-for-alls that start after Sal posts something similarly ridiculous and everyone else chimes in...


Problem is that all those who chime in are too serious and easily lose their temper

Guest
30-04-2008, 23:45
i can answer your question:
a commission of 12 academic professors assessed my thesis, asked me a few questions and decided i had to get the maximum points available.

is the same in russia, in'it? students discuss the thesis and get grade...whats so difficult to understand Guest???:wazzup:


Know what? I all understood and that is why I ask you (and I am not alone :)) to publish your thesis here, or at least some parts. Also, your "12 academic professors" probably were in a university, right? May we know WHICH university? I have some good friends in many Italian cities that will quickly see if you lie as a paranoiac or if you say true :)

TGP
30-04-2008, 23:55
Guys, I started working on my thesis, too (I am serious!), and hope to finish it in June. If this happens, I'll also face a commission of honorable teachers, and answer their questions...
Gosh, I do understand Sal's feelings...though I won't call myself an expert, I'll feel really happy :celebrate:
Sal, don't ever boast, especially on this site. People tend to take it too close to their hearts :)

Bels
01-05-2008, 00:09
Well done Sal on your thesis, and your learning of Russian. When are you returning to your beloved Russia?

Orion
01-05-2008, 00:29
Problem is that all those who chime in are too serious and easily lose their temper

Do you really think that kirk and Guest give a flip about Sal and his goings on after they log off this website? AS Sal is fond of saying...this is the internet, not real life. We aren't terrorist supporters sitting across the table from each other sharing a drink.

jumatre
01-05-2008, 00:39
Problem is that all those who chime in are too serious and easily lose their temper

not all, but some of us (and I do include me, TGP)

TGP
01-05-2008, 00:41
Do you really think that kirk and Guest give a flip about Sal and his goings on after they log off this website? AS Sal is fond of saying...this is the internet, not real life. We aren't terrorist supporters sitting across the table from each other sharing a drink.

Orion, it is not real life, but for some reason there are some rules on the site which we should follow. What do you think they were written for?

SalTheReturn
01-05-2008, 03:01
Know what? I all understood and that is why I ask you (and I am not alone :)) to publish your thesis here, or at least some parts. Also, your "12 academic professors" probably were in a university, right? May we know WHICH university? I have some good friends in many Italian cities that will quickly see if you lie as a paranoiac or if you say true :)

guest there is only one university in florence

SalTheReturn
01-05-2008, 03:03
Guys, I started working on my thesis, too (I am serious!), and hope to finish it in June. If this happens, I'll also face a commission of honorable teachers, and answer their questions...
Gosh, I do understand Sal's feelings...though I won't call myself an expert, I'll feel really happy :celebrate:
Sal, don't ever boast, especially on this site. People tend to take it too close to their hearts :)

you got the point

but believe me i am amazed how "lawyer Guest" and "good hubbie Kirk" lost their temper for something which should just mean NOTHING in their lives!!!

I still do not understand why they are curiosus about my thesis...

SalTheReturn
01-05-2008, 03:05
Do you really think that kirk and Guest give a flip about Sal and his goings on after they log off this website? AS Sal is fond of saying...this is the internet, not real life. We aren't terrorist supporters sitting across the table from each other sharing a drink.

right and wrong my friend, as usual you are very close to the truth

kirk10071
01-05-2008, 10:52
you got the point

but believe me i am amazed how "lawyer Guest" and "good hubbie Kirk" lost their temper for something which should just mean NOTHING in their lives!!!

I still do not understand why they are curiosus about my thesis...

Sal's attempts to reframe the debate are transparent. Neither Guest nor I have lost our temper on this thread. Not once. We responded to being called "dumb and dumber" and "shallow piece of crap" with good humor. Nobody called Sal a name, not one time. Protrayed him and his mother as terrorists? Where did we do that? There is not an angry word in any of our posts. And no Russian has ever called him "retarded," as he so claims. And as far as us being defensive, well, that is just consistent with the posts here. We have nothing to defend other than being called unspeakable names, to which we responded with good humor and not anger.

We simply are trying to get Sal to show us that he is the expert he says he is and to learn about Russia. Who says we cannot read Italian? The only person losing his temper here is Sal, who resists revealing that his paper because he knows that we are qualified to read it. We are curious because SAL HIMSELF created a thread specifically to tell us all how great it is and to suggest he knows more about Russia than the Russians.

Sal, you should not reframe the debate to focus on me or Guest because our posts in this thread are consistent in doing nothing more than asking to see this chef d'oeuvre. Both of us are educated in Soviet history (I personally have a university degree in this subject) and you have aroused our academic curiousity. Nothing more.

Guest
01-05-2008, 11:09
you got the point

but believe me i am amazed how "lawyer Guest" and "good hubbie Kirk" lost their temper for something which should just mean NOTHING in their lives!!!

I still do not understand why they are curiosus about my thesis...

LOL I lost my temper? You never saw when it happens :)

Why I am curious about your thesis? For the same reason that you proudly announced your thesis here: I am always happy to see famous and clever (ahum...) foreigners study and write about Russia!

Any NORMAL guy who posts "I had a good result with my thesis" would be happy to publish it when readers of his post would ask. Assuming the thesis - if any - is his own work, and not a copy of something found online :D

SalTheReturn
01-05-2008, 13:58
Sal's attempts to reframe the debate are transparent. Neither Guest nor I have lost our temper on this thread. Not once. We responded to being called "dumb and dumber" and "shallow piece of crap" with good humor. Nobody called Sal a name, not one time. Protrayed him and his mother as terrorists? Where did we do that? There is not an angry word in any of our posts. And no Russian has ever called him "retarded," as he so claims. And as far as us being defensive, well, that is just consistent with the posts here. We have nothing to defend other than being called unspeakable names, to which we responded with good humor and not anger.

We simply are trying to get Sal to show us that he is the expert he says he is and to learn about Russia. Who says we cannot read Italian? The only person losing his temper here is Sal, who resists revealing that his paper because he knows that we are qualified to read it. We are curious because SAL HIMSELF created a thread specifically to tell us all how great it is and to suggest he knows more about Russia than the Russians.

Sal, you should not reframe the debate to focus on me or Guest because our posts in this thread are consistent in doing nothing more than asking to see this chef d'oeuvre. Both of us are educated in Soviet history (I personally have a university degree in this subject) and you have aroused our academic curiousity. Nothing more.

Kirk who are you fooling?

you have criticized my work for the sake of doing it, you have posted childish messages on another forum, you have picked on me several times, you have trolled like a kid all around this thread

you have portrayed me and my mum as terrorists in one photo, you of course dunno when it would be more polite to stop

go along Kirk, but at least do not deny evidence


stick also in your sick mind that you will not read my thesis, live with that

and if you have a degree in soviet history would be time for you to start interesting discussions rather than picking on someone you dont even know

rude, shallow, and sick, thats what you are.

SalTheReturn
01-05-2008, 14:00
LOL I lost my temper? You never saw when it happens :)

Why I am curious about your thesis? For the same reason that you proudly announced your thesis here: I am always happy to see famous and clever (ahum...) foreigners study and write about Russia!

Any NORMAL guy who posts "I had a good result with my thesis" would be happy to publish it when readers of his post would ask. Assuming the thesis - if any - is his own work, and not a copy of something found online :D

Ah, I see yr point...

good luck

Sal

kirk10071
01-05-2008, 15:02
Kirk who are you fooling?

you have criticized my work for the sake of doing it, you have posted childish messages on another forum, you have picked on me several times, you have trolled like a kid all around this thread

you have portrayed me and my mum as terrorists in one photo, you of course dunno when it would be more polite to stop

go along Kirk, but at least do not deny evidence

I cannot criticize your work because I have never seen it. I deny in the strongest possible terms your other slanderous accusations. They are figments of your imagination and it is scandalous that you would invent such things.

But I forgive you!! You are overtired! Show us your work so we can praise it!! YOU are the one who brought it up! You are embarrassed by it. This is so sad.

kirk10071
01-05-2008, 15:26
Orion, it is not real life, but for some reason there are some rules on the site which we should follow. What do you think they were written for?

TGP, did you see his original post about this thesis?

http://www.expat.ru/forum/expat-cafe/77768-dear-russians.html#post381648.

You are Russian. Do you with to congratulate him now?

SalTheReturn
01-05-2008, 18:53
ashamed of my work?

I sent at least 10sms saying how i have got all the 6points available whilst majority of students take on average 4 or 5

12 academic professors decided my work deserved the best mark and i still dont understand why russians arent proud of that

TGP
01-05-2008, 19:15
TGP, did you see his original post about this thesis?

http://www.expat.ru/forum/expat-cafe/77768-dear-russians.html#post381648.

You are Russian. Do you with to congratulate him now?

Kirk, yes, I read his original post (I always read Sal's posts). I know what you mean, the post sounds rude, though I consider it as bragging, and only bragging. Besides, I never called him a retarded (not only him, though), and now I will be even more careful, and will think more than 100 times before accusing educated foreigners, at least till I get my diploma! When I get it... just you wait! An educated Russian has much to say :jester:

Kirk, it was written more than once in this discussion that Sal behaves like a child. I am not sure if it is his natural way of behavior or just trolling, maybe both, but I treat him accordingly.

Do I wish to congratulate him? I think that his diploma means a lot for him, and if it's a great event in his life, I think he should be congratulated. It' s not important what he wrote about, Russian nationalism, Chinese development, or American foreign policy. He made efforts which were rewarded. It's his achievement. Russian nationalism? He is not the first one who dedicates his life to studying this interesting subject, namely Russia.

I hope that I did not disappoint you.

kirk10071
01-05-2008, 19:33
I hope that I did not disappoint you.

Not at all. :)

SalTheReturn
01-05-2008, 20:56
TGP, thanks for your polite words which I happened to have really appreciated.

I am always aware of the way I sound across this site and it is not big deal if people think I am retarded. I was just shocked in seeing how a group of adults was ready to adopt a childish-full of it behaviour rather than ignoring my post or saying "congratulations Sal".

Thesis itself means nothing to me, even retarded can write a thesis. What means a lot to me it is that I have resided extensively in Moscow, met lots of people there and nowadays capable of giving first rate opinion on lots of Russia-related issues.

Contrary to other foreigners who after 2 yrs could not even handle a bunch of photocopies by themselves, I have put lots of efforts in analysing Russians and the russian culture.

Russia is my country.

Bels
01-05-2008, 21:34
Congratulations on your thesis Sal. When are you coming back to Russia , if it's your country.

I do believe in supporting old regular members, the problem is that I've been slapped back in the face in the past by supporting you Sal. You are so unpredictable. You once supported and thanked the trolls we were fighting. I can't work you out, as you chose to go in your own direction, as like in circles.

So to summarise sal, continue going it alone Sal.

SalTheReturn
01-05-2008, 21:37
Congratulations on your thesis Sal. When are you coming back to Russia , if it's your country.

I do believe in supporting old regular members, the problem is that I've been slapped back in the face in the past by supporting you Sal. You are so unpredictable. You once supported and thanked the trolls we were fighting. I can't work you out, as you chose to go in your own direction, as like in circles.

So to summarise sal, continue going it alone Sal.

one day you will understand why trolls are needed and why actually KG is currently the worthest of the members

jumatre
01-05-2008, 22:59
one day you will understand why trolls are needed and why actually KG is currently the worthest of the members

Salvatore... now it is you who is insulting... trolls? whow! is this part of your thesis?
behaviour of nationalist trolls in modern russia?
behaviour of modern trolls in nationalist russia?
behaviour of russian trolls in modern nationalism?
behaviour of modern nationalists in troll's russia?
let me tell you one thing: every message from you into this or other threads makes you less credible - you have reached the point were I assume that even you dont believe your own words... Now your are speaking about the Final Judgement (one day you will understand), and about the supposed-to-be Leader of the Trolls (KG). You have lost your credibility.

I was listening today all the speaches of russian politicians for the 1st of May, hoping to get a hint on your fabulous work, but it seemed to me that either they were not informed about your Opera Magna, or they know to keep a secret (not like the trolls in this site).
As I could not live with this uncertainty, I spoke with my contact officer at FSB, and yes! he told me that there is a skype-conference arranged and organized for next May 7th... Eureka! This was it!!! no... unfortunately I was informed 10 minutes ago that this skype conference between Italy, Russia and other secret countries was not about russian nationalism or modern trolls, but about the yearly Conference organized by the association of the italian "Fraternitate della Sacra Mortadella"
I tell you officially that I am not interested anymore in your thesis. I have sent an email to the Mortadella Brothers (and Sisters) and have asked them to arrange my admission in their Brother (and Sister)-ship. From today on and for the next 6 days I am obliged to carry 200 grams of liquid mortadella in my left and right trouserspocket, 250 grams of mortadella (in fine slices) on my head (covering partially the right ear, but leaving the left ear free) and finally eat daily minimum 640 grams of russian (troll)-mortadella (Mortadelskij??)in order to destroy this unspeakable copy of our Holy Food.

Brother, I wish you all the best, and am sure that since my destiny is definitive (their is Life after Death: We end up as Mortadella and I must start preparing myself right now). My prayers with you and your thesis.
Sorry, must stop because the liquid mortadella in my left pocket is dropping down. There must be a hole...

Love, ciao

Bels
01-05-2008, 23:22
What's Mortidilla ???

MissAnnElk
01-05-2008, 23:25
I thought it was a wonderful sort of Italian bologna . . . I guess that's redundant since bologna IS Italian.

Bels
01-05-2008, 23:30
one day you will understand why trolls are needed and why actually KG is currently the worthest of the members

Do you mean that KG is the worthiest member here ? Who is KG, it's like you mention Andybe as a major admin, who's he as he occasionaly appears. Now if it was Ezik, I'd understand.

jumatre
01-05-2008, 23:35
What's Mortidilla ???

Please dont ask here in the open forum. you could hurt the deepest feelings of italians... How would you react if somebody asks you "what is porridge"?
or asking a russian "what is borshsch"? or a spaniard "what is paella"?
pm me and I will tell you this secret.

is4fun
01-05-2008, 23:47
Mortadella - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Mortadella.jpg" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Mortadella.jpg/250px-Mortadella.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/b/be/Mortadella.jpg/250px-Mortadella.jpg

No mystery

Bels
01-05-2008, 23:51
Thanks for the link, is for fun, I have now been educated.

jumatre
01-05-2008, 23:57
Thanks for the link, is for fun, I have now been educated.

And now you will hopefully understand my decission between Sal's thesis and Mortadella...
Both are italian, but the mortadella fulfills what she promises - no cheating, no hiding, you get what you asked for...

Bels
02-05-2008, 00:19
That's it. I'm no longer going to make a post comment in sal's threads. M email is geting flooded by garbage after I do :) T pags kp flooding in there.

I'll stick to making my own.

And those sticking at Sal, Why dont you all make your own threads, rather than the the few here who create their own.

Come n now! Make your own threads, and let's pick on you. At least sal makes threads here. Stop being sheep here, and stop following the leaders, and having a go at them, let you bring up your own issues in your own personal interests, because to be perfectly honest with you , Im fedup picking on Sal, because he's not relevent, he doesn't live in Russia, and he has no way of coming back here in Russia. So rather than attack him, make your own threads with your own issues, rather than follow the leaders.

If u wan intructions, Ill give them to you. Becaase there are not enough thread makers here. And make your thread argumentative ;) S w we can have a good argument, and no it doesn't have to be politics, I nrmally avoid these subjects in the end, because some end up being too serious about it.

SalTheReturn
02-05-2008, 00:28
That's it. I'm no longer going to make a post comment in sal's threads. M email is geting flooded by garbage after I do :) T pags kp flooding in there.

I'll stick to making my own.

And those sticking at Sal, Why dont you all make your own threads, rather than the the few here who create their own.

Come n now! Make your own threads, and let's pick on you. At least sal makes threads here. Stop being sheep here, and stop following the leaders, and having a go at them, let you bring up your own issues in your own personal interests, because to be perfectly honest with you , Im fedup picking on Sal, because he's not relevent, he doesn't live in Russia, and he has no way of coming back here in Russia. So rather than attack him, make your own threads with your own issues, rather than follow the leaders.

If u wan intructions, Ill give them to you. Becaase there are not enough thread makers here. And make your thread argumentative ;) S w we can have a good argument, and no it doesn't have to be politics, I nrmally avoid these subjects in the end, because some end up being too serious about it.

perfectly agree bels, but giving also mods r lazy u cant expect better behaviour from posters

in italy we say "to grow a flower and then defecating on it"

basically months ago this site got back on track with lots of posters, lively threads, etc... the mods who do not care (basically the all of them with maybe the exception of Ezik) thought "oh great, site is running again and it runs without even my help". now the site sucks again.

of course posters are to be blamed too, it is incredible how lazy these people are

Gypsy
02-05-2008, 00:32
I have avoided everything Sal-related for the last few weeks so only just read this thread from start to finish.

As usual Sal starts insulting other users, he constantly breaks forum rules with these insults and is allowed to get away with it. I don't understand why.

Given the quality of argument he has shown on this site I can not for one second believe that he is capable of writing a thesis at all - let alone one that could earn maximum marks from a reputable university.

So I believe he is in this - as so many other things - a fraud. I do not believe he has written a thesis - I do not believe that if he has it has received the marks he claims.

It is of course within his power to prove us wrong but I'm not holding my breath.

Bels
02-05-2008, 00:44
Agreed, but we must accept that it is now the coming into the Summer period. less of us are spending our time on the computer, and we are getting out. If I wasn't on residency I wouldn't be here either. Id probably be forced to taech in a Summer school at this moment teaching foreighn kids near Oxford, like I had to do last year. Instead in my case now, I av to ask for permission to get out of the country, rather than be forced to leave the country :). This is the first time I have been active on this forum at this time of year.

All I can ask active members to do at the moment is to make your own threads of your own interests, to keep the readers interested, and welcome new members who introduce themselves, and to encourage them to do the same. We all have a responsibility if you have an interest on this forum.

Bels
02-05-2008, 00:51
To Summarise, we need more thread makers, not followers of sal :):bash:

Or bashers.

SalTheReturn
02-05-2008, 01:03
I have avoided everything Sal-related for the last few weeks so only just read this thread from start to finish.

As usual Sal starts insulting other users, he constantly breaks forum rules with these insults and is allowed to get away with it. I don't understand why.

Given the quality of argument he has shown on this site I can not for one second believe that he is capable of writing a thesis at all - let alone one that could earn maximum marks from a reputable university.

So I believe he is in this - as so many other things - a fraud. I do not believe he has written a thesis - I do not believe that if he has it has received the marks he claims.

It is of course within his power to prove us wrong but I'm not holding my breath.

this is actually what disturbs me my friend: people are ready to judge you by the way you write on a forum.

so answer it is the following my friend: i am an internationally educated individual, fluent in at least one foreign language and soon in 2, always and I repeat ALWAYS obtain the maximum grade when doing something I CARE. But there are very few things I care for in life...

I will prove you wrong, in fact I will send you evidences that I got the maximum grade possible. this may require some time because the university has not issued yet all documentation. once you will be proved wrong, you will apologize as a man.

SalTheReturn
02-05-2008, 01:04
and Gypsy pls show me tecnical breach of the forum rules so that i will apologize in public and abandon the website.

Bels
02-05-2008, 01:07
You prove my argument, we need more threadmakers. At the moment sal is the biggest threadmaker for general conversation. So rather than moan and follow Sal's threads, create your own thread, in your own interests, it's easy to be a follower and critiscise, but it's not not so easy to create your own thread, with your own interests or ideals. so get going and do it. Stop being the sheep and picking on others who are doing a good job here.

Make your own thread here, as you can't simply follow Sal around for example.





I have avoided everything Sal-related for the last few weeks so only just read this thread from start to finish.

As usual Sal starts insulting other users, he constantly breaks forum rules with these insults and is allowed to get away with it. I don't understand why.

Given the quality of argument he has shown on this site I can not for one second believe that he is capable of writing a thesis at all - let alone one that could earn maximum marks from a reputable university.

So I believe he is in this - as so many other things - a fraud. I do not believe he has written a thesis - I do not believe that if he has it has received the marks he claims.

It is of course within his power to prove us wrong but I'm not holding my breath.

Gypsy
02-05-2008, 01:12
You wanted me to show you breaching forum rules - here is a gratuitous insult.


TO KIRK ; WHAT A SHALLOW PIECE OF CRAP YOU ARE

Gypsy
02-05-2008, 01:22
You prove my argument, we need more threadmakers. At the moment sal is the biggest threadmaker for general conversation. So rather than moan and follow Sal's threads, create your own thread, in your own interests, it's easy to be a follower and critiscise, but it's not not so easy to create your own thread, with your own interests or ideals. so get going and do it. Stop being the sheep and picking on others who are doing a good job here.

Make your own thread here, as you can't simply follow Sal around for example.

The usual nonsense.

By your argument above no one can respond to a thread.

Regarding threadmakers - I have started 9.5 threads per month since rejoining the site, and was one of the leading thread starters before I left.

You have an average of 2 threads per month.

Oh, and my threads are not thinly veiled advertisements for my business.

SalTheReturn
02-05-2008, 10:43
Agreed, but we must accept that it is now the coming into the Summer period. less of us are spending our time on the computer, and we are getting out. If I wasn't on residency I wouldn't be here either. Id probably be forced to taech in a Summer school at this moment teaching foreighn kids near Oxford, like I had to do last year. Instead in my case now, I av to ask for permission to get out of the country, rather than be forced to leave the country :). This is the first time I have been active on this forum at this time of year.

All I can ask active members to do at the moment is to make your own threads of your own interests, to keep the readers interested, and welcome new members who introduce themselves, and to encourage them to do the same. We all have a responsibility if you have an interest on this forum.

Guest, not everyone is a teacher so not everyone is lacking work in the summer

Moscow is pretty much a business city working all year long hence I suggest you to stop covering the laziness of posters and give up to the following idea: only some more time and expat.ru will go to bottom and for that are to blame equally mods and posters

SalTheReturn
02-05-2008, 10:47
You wanted me to show you breaching forum rules - here is a gratuitous insult.

I know you were getting there my friend but stick in your mind this:
Sal react other people mockery and insults, hence it is again a victim of other people attack

have you seen how many times Kirk has denied my intellectual abilities? have you seen how he has accused me of lying? have you seen how he posted offensive photos? have you seen what a big childish fuss he has started rather than just ignoring my post or congratulating?

Gypsy, do not apply double standards

Guest
02-05-2008, 11:06
Guest, not everyone is a teacher so not everyone is lacking work in the summer

Moscow is pretty much a business city working all year long hence I suggest you to stop covering the laziness of posters and give up to the following idea: only some more time and expat.ru will go to bottom and for that are to blame equally mods and posters


Thank you for your kind and valuable explanations, but you were replying to Bels, not to me. Tired, our expert?

Gypsy
02-05-2008, 11:42
I know you were getting there my friend but stick in your mind this:
Sal react other people mockery and insults, hence it is again a victim of other people attack

have you seen how many times Kirk has denied my intellectual abilities? have you seen how he has accused me of lying? have you seen how he posted offensive photos? have you seen what a big childish fuss he has started rather than just ignoring my post or congratulating?

Gypsy, do not apply double standards

Sal - you need to re-read Kirk's posts. I have never seen him insult you - or indeed anyone.

There is a huge difference between criticism and insult, and you my friend do not know the difference.

If you cannot see the difference between what Kirk does and calling him "a piece of crap" then you do need to go back to school.