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Uncle Wally
31-08-2018, 08:04
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/30/twitter-blocks-conservatives-including-vp-mike-pence-from-moments-feature/



Private companies in America think they have a right to limit free speech.

Uncle Wally
31-08-2018, 09:08
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-30/are-multiple-failed-coups-leading-engineered-fall-america



Which will lead to the fall of America.

TolkoRaz
31-08-2018, 09:11
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-30/are-multiple-failed-coups-leading-engineered-fall-america



Which will lead to the fall of America.

The US of A is already on that road being led by the current fast becoming President non Grata (PNG)! ;)

Uncle Wally
31-08-2018, 11:42
The US of A is already on that road being led by the current fast becoming President non Grata (PNG)! ;)



The US is not at all being lead by Trump. He may be part of it but just how Trump says "We will get of Syria" and what? Trump said he wants better relations with Russia. They are getting worse. Trump made a promise not to hold war games in South Korea. His generals say different. Trump's whole policy on Iran comes straight from Israel. It's all part of the deep state taking control.

TolkoRaz
01-09-2018, 09:07
The US is not at all being lead by Trump. He may be part of it but just how Trump says "We will get of Syria" and what? Trump said he wants better relations with Russia. They are getting worse. Trump made a promise not to hold war games in South Korea. His generals say different. Trump's whole policy on Iran comes straight from Israel. It's all part of the deep state taking control.

What happened to all these Executive Orders he can, according to you, apparently sign? ;)

Uncle Wally
01-09-2018, 10:16
What happened to all these Executive Orders he can, according to you, apparently sign? ;)




He has signed them. Don't you remember why Sally Yates got fired? She didn't follow them, just like others don't. Trump maybe using his presidential powers soon. The whole Russia investigation is falling apart but that hasn't stopped Mueller or the deep State and mainstream media. They seem to be working overtime now.

TolkoRaz
01-09-2018, 10:24
He has signed them. Don't you remember why Sally Yates got fired? She didn't follow them, just like others don't. Trump maybe using his presidential powers soon. The whole Russia investigation is falling apart but that hasn't stopped Mueller or the deep State and mainstream media. They seem to be working overtime now.

For reasons of political impartiality, you will not hear much from Mueller until after the mid-term elections............

His investigation will continue quietly in the background without leaks or major announcements.........

TheInterocitor
01-09-2018, 13:15
For reasons of political impartiality, you will not hear much from Mueller until after the mid-term elections............

His investigation will continue quietly in the background without leaks or major announcements.........

"Political impartiality"? :rofl:

"Investigation"? :rofl: It is witch hunt, similar to old Salem witch-hunts and stake-burnings.

"Without leaks"? :rofl: It's more like open-conference call between Witch Hunter Mueller and NYT and WaPo. But might be true if you insert "daily" between "without" and "leaks".

TheInterocitor
01-09-2018, 13:17
What happened to all these Executive Orders he can, according to you, apparently sign? ;)

A federal judge, one appointed by Obama or Clinton, overrules them.

Sadly, US has become country ruled by decrees from any of many extremist, lunatic Leftist tinpot-dictator federal judges.

TheInterocitor
01-09-2018, 13:26
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/30/twitter-blocks-conservatives-including-vp-mike-pence-from-moments-feature/

Private companies in America think they have a right to limit free speech.

Private companies do have a right to limit workplace speech. Even when I played in band, we had limits on what band members could say. Nightclub demanded we did not say f-word on stage. If we did, then nightclub could hire different band.

It's when the group has a monopoly that free speech becomes an issue. To make the comparison with a band, if the nightclub is only offered choice of our band, and we use f-word, they disapprove, and they can't fire us, then what?

Google, Facebook, Twitter or Disqus, they are near monopolies in their respective internet areas.

Uncle Wally
01-09-2018, 13:31
For reasons of political impartiality, you will not hear much from Mueller until after the mid-term elections............

His investigation will continue quietly in the background without leaks or major announcements.........




"Impartiality"? This whole thing started because it wasn't. It's crazy that they keep letting this go on with what has come out in the last year. Strzok, Ohr, Brennen, Steele, Rosenstein! Mueller!


The IG report just came out that said Hillary Clinton's email was hacked by China, they have everyone of them. Comey over looked that. We also find out that there really wasn't an investigation into Hillary Clinton at all. Nothing about how Hillary Clinton worked with a foreigner (Steele) to get info from Russians about dirt on Trump. There is a lot of evidence on this, but not a word about it from Her Mueller.

TheInterocitor
01-09-2018, 14:06
"Impartiality"? This whole thing started because it wasn't. It's crazy that they keep letting this go on with what has come out in the last year. Strzok, Ohr, Brennen, Steele, Rosenstein! Mueller!


The IG report just came out that said Hillary Clinton's email was hacked by China, they have everyone of them. Comey over looked that. We also find out that there really wasn't an investigation into Hillary Clinton at all. Nothing about how Hillary Clinton worked with a foreigner (Steele) to get info from Russians about dirt on Trump. There is a lot of evidence on this, but not a word about it from Her Mueller.

Beijing set up a "mail-forwarding" hack on HRC's bathroom server, so all mail that came in to her sent a copy of itself to the Chi-Comms.

Uncle Wally
01-09-2018, 20:19
Beijing set up a "mail-forwarding" hack on HRC's bathroom server, so all mail that came in to her sent a copy of itself to the Chi-Comms.

Yes and there is nothing wrong with that! At the time the US was "friends" with China, so, what could be bad about them reading all her emails? Even the ones where she ask for money donated to the "Bill & Hillary Clinton Foundation" before you could get a favor. There is no corruption in Am, it only happens in countries that don't have a "Central bank"

TolkoRaz
01-09-2018, 21:16
"Impartiality"? This whole thing started because it wasn't. It's crazy that they keep letting this go on with what has come out in the last year. Strzok, Ohr, Brennen, Steele, Rosenstein! Mueller!


The IG report just came out that said Hillary Clinton's email was hacked by China, they have everyone of them. Comey over looked that. We also find out that there really wasn't an investigation into Hillary Clinton at all. Nothing about how Hillary Clinton worked with a foreigner (Steele) to get info from Russians about dirt on Trump. There is a lot of evidence on this, but not a word about it from Her Mueller.

Stop trying to muddy the waters Uncle Wally!

Primary RF effort was to get Trump elected by damaging the Clinton campaign.

Without significant RF effort, Trump would not have been elected............even he realises that, hence the urgency to get the dirt promised by the RF Intelligence Officers to Donald Trump Junior at the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting

Given the main effort, why would the RF have provided any time, effort or damaging information to the Clinton campaign about Trump which would have undermined the RF's primary strategic objective which was to get their man into the White House? :confused:

Uncle Wally
02-09-2018, 09:18
Stop trying to muddy the waters Uncle Wally!

Primary RF effort was to get Trump elected by damaging the Clinton campaign.

Without significant RF effort, Trump would not have been elected............even he realises that, hence the urgency to get the dirt promised by the RF Intelligence Officers to Donald Trump Junior at the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting

Given the main effort, why would the RF have provided any time, effort or damaging information to the Clinton campaign about Trump which would have undermined the RF's primary strategic objective which was to get their man into the White House? :confused:




Wow! Where to start?


Muddy the waters? That is exactly what the deep State is trying to do.

The "RF"? Sorry but they (the RF, Putin) understand full well that it matters not who is president, nothing changes. The American people have finally understood this and tried to elect an "outsider". The RF would rather have Hillary Clinton because she is corrupt and can be easily manipulated. Trump was unpredictable. That is something KBG and CIA don't like. Look you've been in war, you've made plans, how many times havethings gone as planned? Life is a gamble, you have to take the best odds. Trump is the "wild card, or not. Maybe it's because you didn't grow up/live in America but Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton are not seen as "honest" people. Hillary Clinton has been under investigation since before Bill became president and almost every year after. Don't be blinded by the media. It's only there to confuse you. Bill Clinton was one of the first presidents to "come out of nowhere" he also happened to be governor in a state that the CIA ran an illegal weapons for drugs scam with South Americans. All in the name of "spreading Democracy" you know, one bomb at a time, one more black American killed by crack.


Trump is not such an "outsider" as you may thing. He's a billionaire and needs money and banks to keep his lifestyle going. One of the reasons I think Americans trusted Trump was because he was already rich, the thought being "he doesn't need to steal from us like all the other politicians have before. Trump though is either a useful idiot or a full on plant /member of the bankers or both. Trump is a American made, Russia had nothing to do with him. Putin and Russia have no need for a unpredictable American leader, understanding full well all leaders before have always keep to the "status quo".

Money makes the world go round and it's the banksters that control the money. You really think that there want to let the "market forces" control their wealth? It's much better to control the market.


Sorry Tolko you are under informed on what is going on in America.

TolkoRaz
02-09-2018, 10:03
Wow! Where to start?


Muddy the waters? That is exactly what the deep State is trying to do.

The "RF"? Sorry but they (the RF, Putin) understand full well that it matters not who is president, nothing changes. The American people have finally understood this and tried to elect an "outsider". The RF would rather have Hillary Clinton because she is corrupt and can be easily manipulated. Trump was unpredictable. That is something KBG and CIA don't like. Look you've been in war, you've made plans, how many times havethings gone as planned? Life is a gamble, you have to take the best odds. Trump is the "wild card, or not. Maybe it's because you didn't grow up/live in America but Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton are not seen as "honest" people. Hillary Clinton has been under investigation since before Bill became president and almost every year after. Don't be blinded by the media. It's only there to confuse you. Bill Clinton was one of the first presidents to "come out of nowhere" he also happened to be governor in a state that the CIA ran an illegal weapons for drugs scam with South Americans. All in the name of "spreading Democracy" you know, one bomb at a time, one more black American killed by crack.


Trump is not such an "outsider" as you may thing. He's a billionaire and needs money and banks to keep his lifestyle going. One of the reasons I think Americans trusted Trump was because he was already rich, the thought being "he doesn't need to steal from us like all the other politicians have before. Trump though is either a useful idiot or a full on plant /member of the bankers or both. Trump is a American made, Russia had nothing to do with him. Putin and Russia have no need for a unpredictable American leader, understanding full well all leaders before have always keep to the "status quo".

Money makes the world go round and it's the banksters that control the money. You really think that there want to let the "market forces" control their wealth? It's much better to control the market.


Sorry Tolko you are under informed on what is going on in America.

VVP and Clinton despised one another; there is absolutely no possibility that VVP would have tried to assist Hillary Clinton to become POTUS.

Trump not only being owned and supported by the Kremlin was VVP's best bet because whatever happened, Trump could be guaranteed to cause major division and instability in the US of A thereby weakening the US of A's upward trajectory.

As a bi-product, Trump has also caused instability and confusion around the globe, including in Western Europe all of which is to the RF's benefit.

This has been one of the RF's most successful subtle clandestine operations for years; they mounted a successful coup and got their man into the White House and all without firing a single bullet or spilling a drop of blood - - pure genius!

It will now be interesting to see how, without being caught, the RF seeks to keep him in the White House for another Presidential term..............