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Russian Lad
21-05-2016, 17:44
I mean, I have just been watching a video featuring a nice car where a Brit has to sit on the right side of the vehicle, where the steering wheel is, and he was using his left hand for everything - the gears wheel, the electronic navigation panel there, etc. - all the contraptions besides the steering wheel itself are actually to the left of the driver and his right hand happens to be effectively cut off and useless - all he can do is grab the steering wheel with it. I have just realized most Brits who drive a car have to do it daily? Are most of them left-handed or what? I am genuinely intrigued by my discovery. Why are they torturing themselves like that?

FatAndy
21-05-2016, 18:44
Why are they torturing themselves like that?
Imperialistic perverts they are, comrade... :rasta:

Benedikt
21-05-2016, 19:02
Why are they torturing themselves like that?[/QUOTE]
South Africa also drives left. and if i am not mistaken, down under as well.
driving on the left side has nothing to do with torture. it has to do with middle age, horses, riding and the knights. the were riding on the =wrong= side, so so their right arm was free to pull out the sword when they came across another person who was of not so nice nature. and it was easier to chop of the head of that adversary. and Brits being very conservative, kept that tradition, they also were driving on the left side in all their colonies, might that have been India , South Africa, or elsewhere.
By the way, if you walk your dog CORRECTLY, he also walks on your left side. the left hand holding the leash. and withe right hand you can fend of anything else that might come storming at you and tries to bite....

Hans.KK
21-05-2016, 19:18
Why are they torturing themselves like that?Stubbornness: http://www.worldstandards.eu/cars/driving-on-the-left/

TolkoRaz
21-05-2016, 21:19
I mean, I have just been watching a video featuring a nice car where a Brit has to sit on the right side of the vehicle, where the steering wheel is, and he was using his left hand for everything - the gears wheel, the electronic navigation panel there, etc. - all the contraptions besides the steering wheel itself are actually to the left of the driver and his right hand happens to be effectively cut off and useless - all he can do is grab the steering wheel with it. I have just realized most Brits who drive a car have to do it daily? Are most of them left-handed or what? I am genuinely intrigued by my discovery. Why are they torturing themselves like that?

Not sure about the British, but the Irish are known by many to be 'Left Footers'! :10310:

TolkoRaz
21-05-2016, 21:22
By the way, if you walk your dog CORRECTLY, he also walks on your left side. the left hand holding the leash. and withe right hand you can fend of anything else that might come storming at you and tries to bite....

It is so you could draw your sword with the right hand. This is also why females should walk on the left when escorted by a male, so he could draw his sword and fight off the danger. Nowadays, it more likely to protect the fair lady from rainwater splashed up by passing cars (need to also walk on the correct side of the road!).

Russian Lad
21-05-2016, 23:07
driving on the left side has nothing to do with torture. it has to do with middle age, horses, riding and the knights. the were riding on the =wrong= side, so so their right arm was free to pull out the sword when they came across another person who was of not so nice nature. and it was easier to chop of the head of that adversary. and Brits being very conservative, kept that tradition, they also were driving on the left side in all their colonies, might that have been India , South Africa, or elsewhere.
By the way, if you walk your dog CORRECTLY, he also walks on your left side. the left hand holding the leash. and withe right hand you can fend of anything else that might come storming at you and tries to bite....

Ok, maybe in the past it was important, but now? Look for yourself how terribly inconvenient it is if you are right-handed (a very nice car and a totally idiotic setup inside for a right-handed person - see how much he has to do with his left hand and how much - with the right) - so, I am baffled - I mean, in a way, it is like saying "Look, we are dumb and we torture ourselves, and we are proud of it!" - I thought only Russians are famous for that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhaL8GaSFww

Benedikt
21-05-2016, 23:16
[QUOTE=Russian Lad;1447288]Ok, maybe in the past it was important, but now? Not sure if it is in the GB or somewhere else, but look for yourself how terribly inconvenient it is if you are right-handed (a very nice car and an idiotic setup inside - see how much he has to do with his left hand and how much - with the right):


i made my drivers license in Austria, and i am right handed.
i went to South Africa, took me about a week to get used to drive on the -wrong- side. no problem at all. Though Russia is easy, the bigger the car, the easier to drive. left, right, middle of the road, no problem.....:) :)

TolkoRaz
21-05-2016, 23:30
Ok, maybe in the past it was important, but now? Look for yourself how terribly inconvenient it is if you are right-handed (a very nice car and a totally idiotic setup inside for a right-handed person - see how much he has to do with his left hand and how much - with the right) - so, I am baffled - I mean, in a way, it is like saying "Look, we are dumb and we torture ourselves, and we are proud of it!" - I thought only Russians are famous for that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhaL8GaSFww

Are all Muslims born right or left handed? ;)

Russian Lad
21-05-2016, 23:34
i went to South Africa, took me about a week to get used to drive on the -wrong- side. no problem at all. Though Russia is easy, the bigger the car, the easier to drive. left, right, middle of the road, no problem....

I am not talking about the driving per se at all, you are not getting it?:) Watch the video and bear in mind your are right-handed. Or you enjoy doing everything with your left hand?


Are all Muslims born right or left handed?

? The hell I know, tell me.

TolkoRaz
21-05-2016, 23:38
If you drove an E-Cl**** there is no gear leaver - all controls are on the steering wheel! ;)

I love it! :)

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Russian Lad
21-05-2016, 23:40
If you drove an E-Cl**** there is no gear leaver - all controls are on the steering wheel!

There are still lots of controls and buttons to your right. Now, would you love it to have all those contraptions on your left side? :) Me, I have no particular destinations to drive to, and whenever I need wheels I call up a service and there is always a car at my beck and call for like 300-500 rubles per trip.:) With a personal driver, eager to please me.:) For me a car was important when I appreciated a good romping on the wheels, it served no other important functions, frankly. Guess I am getting old.:)

Kartoshka
21-05-2016, 23:49
It's to do with the best visibility for the driver, not hand preference.

Russian Lad
21-05-2016, 23:57
It's to do with the best visibility for the driver, not hand preference.

Kartoshka, learn to think outside the box. The rules out there - for you they are to obey because you seem to be an obedient hmmm... follower of the regime going to a (раб)ота every day, for me - the rules are out there to be bent and sometimes even to be f'cked, as long as I can get away with it.:) Sorry for the revelation. To get back to my point, however, - what you are saying is true for the left-sided roads, but what prevents them from making the roads right-sided to stop torturing the majority of their citizens like that? (I do assume that most Brits are right-handed?). Or is this utterly inhumane torture being administered on purpose? Aren't tortures prohibited by the Geneva Convention?:)

Judge
22-05-2016, 09:04
It's not that hard to press a few buttons and turn a few Knobs with your left hand, :smile:
Here's an article ,it also says about being ready to do battle and why Russians and the rest drive on the right, I like the French reason,


Napoleon took over the army and began invading nations, he ordered them to stay on the right hand side too. Popular myth suggests this was also because he was left-handed, but there were other advantages; it would prove unsettling for his enemies, it would show him to be a great military tactician, and it would irk the British. Perfect!

http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2015/01/brits-drive-left

Russian Lad
22-05-2016, 13:55
It's not that hard to press a few buttons and turn a few Knobs with your left hand

Well, to me it sounds just like saying "It would not hurt to learn how to write using your left hand, even if you are right-handed". It doesn't make much sense, does it? :winking:

Judge
22-05-2016, 14:08
Well, to me it sounds just like saying "It would not hurt to learn how to write using your left hand, even if you are right-handed". It doesn't make much sense, does it? :winking:

It makes for good multitasking ...

The other week I drove a left hand sided car on the left side of the road, it's been over 10 years driving right sided car, automatic in Russia, it came natural to shift gears with my left hand after all these years . ...
Maybe it's a british thing we are just good at using both hands..:winking:
Is your left hand redundant?
It's the why we have two taps, hot and cold, it's training at an early age to use both hands :big-grin:

Kartoshka
22-05-2016, 14:45
Kartoshka, learn to think outside the box.

Maybe you should take your own advice and take a moment to think about why humans were born with two equally-sized hands, if one is meant to be used more than the other.

TolkoRaz
22-05-2016, 14:52
Is RusskiLad the only person here who types posts using the fingers of one hand?

Russian Lad
22-05-2016, 15:24
Is your left hand redundant?
It's the why we have two taps, hot and cold, it's training at an early age to use both hands

It is certainly way more clumsy than my right hand. You find that this right-hand - left-hand division of people is totally artificial and humans need?/can? use both hands with equal efficiency? :smug: You are right about water taps - but it is a way more simple operation than, say, using a navigation panel. In other words, the left hand is ok for simple stuff, when it gets complicated we seem to prefer the right one. In the case of cars, I think holding the gear lever with the left hand was ok (I would still prefer the right hand for this), but now there is a whole variety of moves that are needed, many devices there, and that's when things get tricky and, frankly, f;cked up for the British right-handed drivers, imho.


Maybe you should take your own advice and take a moment to think about why humans were born with two equally-sized hands, if one is meant to be used more than the other.

The question above is addressed to you as well then. What, you write equally well using your left and right hand? Such people exist, I believe, but it is rather rare - soccer players using both feet equally well, boxers, etc. When you ever shoot a rifle (I believe everyone has done it at least once, maybe with a pneumatic one) it doesn't matter to you which shoulder and eye to use - the left or the right one?


Is RusskiLad the only person here who types posts using the fingers of one hand?

I do it with both of course, but my right hand is more active somehow - I use it to click the space bar, for instance. While we are at it - where is your mouse - in your right hand or your left hand? It doesn't matter to you on which side of the keyboard it is positioned?
ЗЫ: Come on, my kvas friends, why do you always find it necessary to dispute the obvious? Even Wally is wisely abstaining from contradicting me on this one here.:)

Benedikt
22-05-2016, 17:00
Watch the video and bear in mind your are right-handed. Or you enjoy doing everything with your left hand?

i am not right handed only. in the kitchen with the knives i can cut and slice left and right hand. i can write left and write hand. though obvious it will be more readable with the right hand.....

Kartoshka
22-05-2016, 21:49
What, you write equally well using your left and right hand?
No, because I have spent years practising writing with my right hand.

However, writing is a far more complex process than moving a gear stick, and luckily I didn't need years of practice to competently drive a car in either Britain or Russia.

Uncle Wally
22-05-2016, 22:27
It is certainly way more clumsy than my right hand. You find that this right-hand - left-hand division of people is totally artificial and humans need?/can? use both hands with equal efficiency? :smug: You are right about water taps - but it is a way more simple operation than, say, using a navigation panel. In other words, the left hand is ok for simple stuff, when it gets complicated we seem to prefer the right one. In the case of cars, I think holding the gear lever with the left hand was ok (I would still prefer the right hand for this), but now there is a whole variety of moves that are needed, many devices there, and that's when things get tricky and, frankly, f;cked up for the British right-handed drivers, imho.



The question above is addressed to you as well then. What, you write equally well using your left and right hand? Such people exist, I believe, but it is rather rare - soccer players using both feet equally well, boxers, etc. When you ever shoot a rifle (I believe everyone has done it at least once, maybe with a pneumatic one) it doesn't matter to you which shoulder and eye to use - the left or the right one?



I do it with both of course, but my right hand is more active somehow - I use it to click the space bar, for instance. While we are at it - where is your mouse - in your right hand or your left hand? It doesn't matter to you on which side of the keyboard it is positioned?
ЗЫ: Come on, my kvas friends, why do you always find it necessary to dispute the obvious? Even Wally is wisely abstaining from contradicting me on this one here.:)



That's just because Uncle Wally has been busy.


My father was left handed and in his time was beaten in school until he could right with his write hand. It wasn't very beautiful but he did for the rest of his life. This helped him with his drumming. He learned on a right handed drum set. (yes there is right and left handed sets) and by development of his right hand became stronger on the over all drum set. I growing up with a dad who did things both right handed and left handed came out doing somethings right handed and others left. I feel more comfortable playing hockey left handed and in baseball a little better batting lefty than righty but can do both. Throwing a ball is still righty but catching a ball with my left is very good. My left hand works better for something's. In drumming both hands should work equal, for me because I started so young and with no directions I started playing "left hand lead" which means I play on a right handed drum set but using my left hand where a right handed persons would. ( depending on which is your stronger hand in drumming depends on how you set up your drums because one hand needs to work a bit more than the other) and this gave me a over stronger balance on a drum set. Any instrument takes two hands to master and it is the development of the weaker hand that decides mastery. Development of just your strongest ability will only make you weak in other areas. Life is a balance, checks and balances. We must work on our weak points to become fully whole.

Russian Lad
23-05-2016, 02:42
However, writing is a far more complex process than moving a gear stick, and luckily I didn't need years of practice to competently drive a car in either Britain or Russia.

Well, if you were really reading what I write you may have noticed that I am not talking about the gear stick at all. There are many devices to the driver's left nowadays, to use them, especially on the go, one needs concentration and skills quite similar to the ones one needs for writing.


yes there is right and left handed sets

You are ruining their case, Wally... It seems the manufacturers take more care of drummers than of the British car drivers...:) You know what I find funny, Wally? The almost inevitable social consent that something is good or acceptable only because "it is there". A tribal instinct to look for and to obey authority as a group even if it is clearly harming/torturing an individual? I have a feeling that if a decree is issued that carrying a long and sharp nail inside one's arse is fashionable, patriotic and/or even necessary, many people will be doing it and will be honestly claiming they feel better now. Seriously. Humans are interesting to observe.

Judge
24-05-2016, 08:25
Using a navigation panel

No need for hands, you can speak to it now..:smile:

vossy7
24-05-2016, 13:33
Don't know how this thread passed me by .....however here I am ....firstly TR , left-footer is a term protestants used for Irish Catholics , long story!
Now back to RL's thread....having traveled a lot around the globe, owning and renting cars like many others you just get used to swapping and changing.
I actually never gave it any thought until I read the post. My wife on the other hand , left , found it a bit too much and gave up as we climbed out of the ditch outside Dublin:scared:

Russian Lad
24-05-2016, 13:46
Don't know how this thread passed me by .....however here I am ....firstly TR , left-footer is a term protestants used for Irish Catholics , long story!
Now back to RL's thread....having traveled a lot around the globe, owning and renting cars like many others you just get used to swapping and changing.
I actually never gave it any thought until I read the post. My wife on the other hand , left , found it a bit too much and gave up as we climbed out of the ditch outside Dublin:scared:

:tongue:

Uncle Wally
24-05-2016, 14:49
You what's even more dangerous? Crossing the street. You just natural look left then right

Russian Lad
24-05-2016, 15:20
You what's even more dangerous? Crossing the street. You just natural look left then right

It is ok if the traffic is right-sided though, isn't it? All the cars are coming from the left. So, in the left-sided traffic countries there is also a dire neglect towards the social group "pedestrians"? Wonder how many innocent and right-handed Britons have died tragically because of this. The plot thickens.:smug: Wally, I sense it is some sort of a British conspiracy, you must investigate. See, it is not like I blindly support everything Western, isn't it? When they are f'cked up I feel it is my duty to tell them, like in this case.:)

Uncle Wally
24-05-2016, 16:07
It is ok if the traffic is right-sided though, isn't it? All the cars are coming from the left. So, in the left-sided traffic countries there is also a dire neglect towards the social group "pedestrians"? Wonder how many innocent and right-handed Britons have died tragically because of this. The plot thickens.:smug: Wally, I sense it is some sort of a British conspiracy, you must investigate. See, it is not like I blindly support everything Western, isn't it? When they are f'cked up I feel it is my duty to tell them, like in this case.:)



It's good to see you haven't totally lost your mind. It's ok if you drive on the right but not if you go to London!

vossy7
24-05-2016, 16:57
Well here's the thing , Ireland has always been closer to Europe than the UK , they even use Euros as they have cleverly milked the EU out of Billions for many years . They hope to also move to driving on the same side of the road soon . They'll start with all the buses and trucks for six months and if it is a success they'll allow all the cars and bikes to follow suit:silly:

Uncle Wally
24-05-2016, 17:28
Well here's the thing , Ireland has always been closer to Europe than the UK , they even use Euros as they have cleverly milked the EU out of Billions for many years . They hope to also move to driving on the same side of the road soon . They'll start with all the buses and trucks for six months and if it is a success they'll allow all the cars and bikes to follow suit:silly:


I think if they start making the buses and trucks drive on the right people won't want to drive cars. Is the government that stupid or do they just want to kill everyone? Drunk driving accidents will skyrocket!

TolkoRaz
24-05-2016, 21:05
They'll start with all the buses and trucks for six months and if it is a success they'll allow all the cars and bikes to follow suit:silly:

:D