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fenrir
22-05-2015, 23:08
Norway overtakes Russia as western Europe's top gas supplier

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102702183

Import substitution works BOTH ways!!!!!

Uncle Wally
23-05-2015, 00:02
Norway overtakes Russia as western Europe's top gas supplier

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102702183

Import substitution works BOTH ways!!!!!



Yes it does and that is why Russia has been making deals with other countries. So why does America have to use it's army for "business"? Because they deal like the mafia.

Benedikt
23-05-2015, 03:33
[QUOTE=fenrir;1419038]Norway overtakes Russia as western Europe's top gas supplier

it is VERY cold in many EU places, we have snow down to 800 m in Austria.heaters and radiators are running full blast. lets see if they can supply in the long run the amount that will be needed. gas is for the long term, not a short term supply win...

fenrir
23-05-2015, 09:16
[QUOTE=fenrir;1419038]Norway overtakes Russia as western Europe's top gas supplier

it is VERY cold in many EU places, we have snow down to 800 m in Austria.heaters and radiators are running full blast. lets see if they can supply in the long run the amount that will be needed. gas is for the long term, not a short term supply win...

Ever hear of a country called Qatar?

Uncle Wally
23-05-2015, 23:26
[QUOTE=Benedikt;1419061][COLOR="Red"]

Ever hear of a country called Qatar?



Yeah that's the country with all those human rights abuses.

fenrir
24-05-2015, 00:27
[QUOTE=fenrir;1419077]



Yeah that's the country with all those human rights abuses.

And which has one of the largest natural gas reserves in the world. Btw, Russia is doing quite well in the human rights abuse category. You may even get to experience that first hand if the situation there degrades too much further.

Uncle Wally
24-05-2015, 01:25
[QUOTE=Uncle Wally;1419138]

And which has one of the largest natural gas reserves in the world. Btw, Russia is doing quite well in the human rights abuse category. You may even get to experience that first hand if the situation there degrades too much further.



Nothing is "degrading" here, it's just getting better and better. Russia is far behind America in the "human rights abuses" buddy. American cops kill more Americans than all the terrorist around the world!

TolkoRaz
24-05-2015, 07:54
137 shots fired by trigger-happy US of A Police at 2 unarmed vehicle occupants!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32859763

Another unbelievable 'incident'!

Judge
24-05-2015, 08:59
Gents, isn't this topic about gas wars between Russia and others, We all know America is taking the side of the others by putting pressure on countries to stop Russia from building gas pipes........I can't see what gas wars got to to with police shootings in America.....

The thread isn't even on the 2nd page yet....:farout:


Qatar is interesting, with all the abuse going on with building then stadiums for the 2022 football world cup, many will continue to ignore the human rights abuses there,as long as they spend like they have been doing these past few years, and still have the gas.
Numbers totalling $200 bn ,
and spent

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3055550/Qatar-paid-17-17billion-host-2022-World-Cup-finals-new-research-shows-money-went.html
£18bn on getting just the vote,

Syria will be a big game changer if Assad goes,with Qatar hoping to build a pipeline through Syria then onto the European market .
And then we have Qatar involvement with ISIS,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2812782/Cameron-uses-Downing-Street-talks-challenge-Emir-Qatar-stop-flow-cash-ISIS.html

If ISIS gains control of all Syria, will the Qatar gas pipeline be built?

TolkoRaz
24-05-2015, 09:37
Assad will not 'go', he is now being 'supported' and protected to a certain extent by the US of A.

IS / Da'esh will never be able to control all of Syria.

fenrir
24-05-2015, 09:40
Gents, isn't this topic about gas wars between Russia and others, We all know America is taking the side of the others by putting pressure on countries to stop Russia from building gas pipes........I can't see what gas wars got to to with police shootings in America.....

The thread isn't even on the 2nd page yet....:farout:


Qatar is interesting, with all the abuse going on with building then stadiums for the 2022 football world cup, many will continue to ignore the human rights abuses there,as long as they spend like they have been doing these past few years, and still have the gas.
Numbers totalling $200 bn ,
and spent thus

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3055550/Qatar-paid-17-17billion-host-2022-World-Cup-finals-new-research-shows-money-went.html
£18bn on getting just the vote,

Syria will be a big game changer if Assad goes,with Qatar hoping to build a pipeline through Syria then onto the European market .
And then we have Qatar involvement with ISIS,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2812782/Cameron-uses-Downing-Street-talks-challenge-Emir-Qatar-stop-flow-cash-ISIS.html

I agree about Qatar. With spending on that level, no one is going to get too bothered about the workers getting abused there. Syria is going to be a mess for the foreseeable future no matter if Assad survives or not. Qatar had better have a Plan B for their pipeline or they will just have to rely on transit through the KSA and LNG shipments.

penka
24-05-2015, 09:54
Russia-related stocks are experiencing a rally right now. The author mentions Avito and Vostok Nafta, that haussed over 100% since this January. The prognosis looks extremely positive for the nearest months.

http://www.di.se/di/artiklar/2015/5/23/revansch-for-ryssaktier/

Judge
24-05-2015, 13:59
It's al-Qaeda all over again.

Secret Pentagon Report Reveals US "Created" ISIS As A "Tool" To Overthrow Syria's President Assad


According to the newly declassified US document, the Pentagon foresaw the likely rise of the ‘Islamic State’ as a direct consequence of the strategy, but described this outcome as a strategic opportunity to “isolate the Syrian regime.”



From the first sudden, and quite dramatic, appearance of the fanatical Islamic group known as ISIS which was largely unheard of until a year ago, on the world's stage and which promptly replaced the worn out and tired al Qaeda as the world's terrorist bogeyman, we suggested that the "straight to beheading YouTube clip" purpose behind the Saudi Arabia-funded Islamic State was a simple one: use the Jihadists as the vehicle of choice to achieve a political goal: depose of Syria's president Assad, who for years has stood in the way of a critical Qatari natural gas pipeline, one which could dethrone Russia as Europe's dominant - and belligerent - source of energy, reaching an interim climax with the unsuccessful Mediterranean Sea military build up of 2013, which nearly resulted in quasi-world war.

The narrative and the plotline were so transparent, even Russia saw right through them. Recall from September of last year:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-23/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-us-created-isis-tool-overthrow-syrias-president-assad

Nobbynumbnuts
24-05-2015, 14:37
It's al-Qaeda all over again.

Secret Pentagon Report Reveals US "Created" ISIS As A "Tool" To Overthrow Syria's President Assad


According to the newly declassified US document, the Pentagon foresaw the likely rise of the ‘Islamic State’ as a direct consequence of the strategy, but described this outcome as a strategic opportunity to “isolate the Syrian regime.”



From the first sudden, and quite dramatic, appearance of the fanatical Islamic group known as ISIS which was largely unheard of until a year ago, on the world's stage and which promptly replaced the worn out and tired al Qaeda as the world's terrorist bogeyman, we suggested that the "straight to beheading YouTube clip" purpose behind the Saudi Arabia-funded Islamic State was a simple one: use the Jihadists as the vehicle of choice to achieve a political goal: depose of Syria's president Assad, who for years has stood in the way of a critical Qatari natural gas pipeline, one which could dethrone Russia as Europe's dominant - and belligerent - source of energy, reaching an interim climax with the unsuccessful Mediterranean Sea military build up of 2013, which nearly resulted in quasi-world war.

The narrative and the plotline were so transparent, even Russia saw right through them. Recall from September of last year:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-23/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-us-created-isis-tool-overthrow-syrias-president-assad

..i've checked main stream media and can't find this article anywhere. Only place it's doing the rounds is zany, madcap conspiracy sites like the one you've linked to.

If this had any credibility it would be headline news around the world..

TolkoRaz
24-05-2015, 15:36
It's al-Qaeda all over again.

Secret Pentagon Report Reveals US "Created" ISIS As A "Tool" To Overthrow Syria's President Assad


According to the newly declassified US document, the Pentagon foresaw the likely rise of the ‘Islamic State’ as a direct consequence of the strategy, but described this outcome as a strategic opportunity to “isolate the Syrian regime.”



From the first sudden, and quite dramatic, appearance of the fanatical Islamic group known as ISIS which was largely unheard of until a year ago, on the world's stage and which promptly replaced the worn out and tired al Qaeda as the world's terrorist bogeyman, we suggested that the "straight to beheading YouTube clip" purpose behind the Saudi Arabia-funded Islamic State was a simple one: use the Jihadists as the vehicle of choice to achieve a political goal: depose of Syria's president Assad, who for years has stood in the way of a critical Qatari natural gas pipeline, one which could dethrone Russia as Europe's dominant - and belligerent - source of energy, reaching an interim climax with the unsuccessful Mediterranean Sea military build up of 2013, which nearly resulted in quasi-world war.

The narrative and the plotline were so transparent, even Russia saw right through them. Recall from September of last year:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-23/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-us-created-isis-tool-overthrow-syrias-president-assad

IS / Da'esh is principally formed from aQ-Iraq (aQ-I) who fought the US of A and coalition forces for many years. Many of the IS / Da'esh leadership and senior military commanders are Saddam's former Ba'athist military officers who the US of A kicked out of a job and then attempted to hunt down & kill.

Other groups have been financed and trained to overthrow Assad, but not IS / Da'esh although some of the funded groups have subsequently sworn allegiance to the greater, more capable and better structured IS / Da'esh and the Caliphate.

The Caliph, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, is now their master, not Washington!

Judge
24-05-2015, 15:39
..i've checked main stream media and can't find this article anywhere. Only place it's doing the rounds is zany, madcap conspiracy sites like the one you've linked to.

If this had any credibility it would be headline news around the world..



Zerohedge is far from a being zany madcap conspiracy site,it's well worth reading daily.

Nobbynumbnuts
24-05-2015, 15:56
Zerohedge is far from a being zany madcap conspiracy site,it's well worth reading daily.


..that's debatable. Why are they worth reading if they report nonsense? They are in good company with other zany, madcap sites who are the only ones reporting this crap.

If someone had proof that the Pentagon had 'created' ISIS for whatever reason, that would would be breaking news all around the world.

The fact it isn't is proof in it's self that this is zany, madcap conspiracy nonsense..

Uncle Wally
24-05-2015, 19:34
..that's debatable. Why are they worth reading if they report nonsense? They are in good company with other zany, madcap sites who are the only ones reporting this crap.

If someone had proof that the Pentagon had 'created' ISIS for whatever reason, that would would be breaking news all around the world.

The fact it isn't is proof in it's self that this is zany, madcap conspiracy nonsense..



Welcome to the real world.

And in the real world most news organizations work with or for the CIA, MI6.....

Judge
25-05-2015, 11:25
..that's debatable. Why are they worth reading if they report nonsense? They are in good company with other zany, madcap sites who are the only ones reporting this crap.

If someone had proof that the Pentagon had 'created' ISIS for whatever reason, that would would be breaking news all around the world.

The fact it isn't is proof in it's self that this is zany, madcap conspiracy nonsense..

Where would you prefer to read it,The Sun,DM?

The US knew about ISIS early on, and saw them as a tool to remove Assad,they saw the rise of ISIS from the beginning, even mentioning ISIS goal of creating an Islamic State,
now you might say that's the job of the western spy agencies, which is true, they wouldn't be doing their job otherwise, but what if they put a stop early on to the rise of ISIS....stopped the money supply from KSA and Qatar,maybe sanctions or a threat of no more US ,western protection, like in weapon sales....

It's easy for you and many others to blow it off as crazy madcap conspiracy theories, :10293:


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/newly-declassified-u-s-government-documents-the-west-supported-the-creation-of-isis.html

Nobbynumbnuts
25-05-2015, 11:50
....It's easy for you and many others to blow it off as crazy madcap conspiracy theories, :10293:


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/newly-declassified-u-s-government-documents-the-west-supported-the-creation-of-isis.html

Yes it is. This is a big story. When i see the main stream media reporting on it then that's all it's going to be. A zany, madcap, conspiracy story on internet websites.

..or perhaps the all world's main stream media are in one giant conspiracy to suppress any story that will cause embarrassment? :coffee:

Judge
25-05-2015, 12:30
Yes it is. This is a big story. When i see the main stream media reporting on it then that's all it's going to be. A zany, madcap, conspiracy story on internet websites.

..or perhaps the all world's main stream media are in one giant conspiracy to suppress any story that will cause embarrassment? :coffee:

You can wait for the world's main stream media all you want,will let you rely on the Murdoch news machine for your news.....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/18/military-intel-predicted-rise-isis-in-2012-detailed-arms-shipments/

Nobby, what's hard to see, ISIS was known by the US and others, was allowed to grow cos they were fighting the enemy of the US,in Assad, it's common knowledge money to fund ISIS is coming from KSA and Qatar...Qatar wants to enter the European gas market via Syria.
what we are talking about is the US helped in the creation of ISIS by sitting back and doing nothing. ..
Do you believe the US agencies who run ops like this,their job to forsee how situations pan out, are that naive?

Nobbynumbnuts
25-05-2015, 12:40
You can wait for the world's main stream media all you want,will let you rely on the Murdoch news machine for your news.....

..not an adequate response.

All the world's mainstream media (that's hundreds of publications and news channels) are not owned by one one man.

Your link to the Fox News article is a millions miles away from your original link to an article that claimed the Pentagon has created ISIS.
It says intelligence agencies were aware of arms shipments from Libya to Syria. As you said before..that's their job.

Judge
25-05-2015, 13:02
IS / Da'esh is principally formed from aQ-Iraq (aQ-I) who fought the US of A and coalition forces for many years. Many of the IS / Da'esh leadership and senior military commanders are Saddam's former Ba'athist military officers who the US of A kicked out of a job and then attempted to hunt down & kill.

Other groups have been financed and trained to overthrow Assad, but not IS / Da'esh although some of the funded groups have subsequently sworn allegiance to the greater, more capable and better structured IS / Da'esh and the Caliphate.

The Caliph, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, is now their master, not Washington!

Probably all true Raz, but why not go after them when all this was known like 3 years ago?
if I may say, the creative chaos,which we have seen for the past many years. ....

Nobbynumbnuts
25-05-2015, 13:11
.....Nobby, what's hard to see, ISIS was known by the US and others, was allowed to grow cos they were fighting the enemy of the US,in Assad, it's common knowledge money to fund ISIS is coming from KSA and Qatar...Qatar wants to enter the European gas market via Syria.
what we are talking about is the US helped in the creation of ISIS by sitting back and doing nothing. ..
Do you believe the US agencies who run ops like this,their job to forsee how situations pan out, are that naive?

Do i believe, do you believe, what if.
All speculation, that conspiracy websites thrive on...

Judge
25-05-2015, 13:15
..not an adequate response.

All the world's mainstream media (that's hundreds of publications and news channels) are not owned by one one man.

Your link to the Fox News article is a millions miles away from your original link to an article that claimed the Pentagon has created ISIS.
It says intelligence agencies were aware of arms shipments from Libya to Syria. As you said before..that's their job.

You didn't read the link then, I even posted it,




According to the newly declassified US document, the Pentagon foresaw the likely rise of the ‘Islamic State’ as a direct consequence of the strategy, but described this outcome as a strategic opportunity to “isolate the Syrian regime.”


The US aligned itself early on with such groups who were against Assad,it's not the first time the CIA did this,remember how the CIA used groups to fights the Soviets, what makes you think things have change?

Nobbynumbnuts
25-05-2015, 13:31
You didn't read the link then, I even posted it,





The US aligned itself early on with such groups who were against Assad,it's not the first time the CIA did this,remember how the CIA used groups to fights the Soviets, what makes you think things have change?

Where in that link does it confirm the pentagon created ISIS?

What makes me think, what makes you think, what if...

Judge
25-05-2015, 13:45
Do i believe, do you believe, what if.
All speculation, that conspiracy websites thrive on...

it's best to keep believing only what the world's main media tells you, not even try and make up your own mind.:book:


Where in that link does it confirm the pentagon created ISIS?

What makes me think, what makes you think, what if...


Helped to create by sitting back and doing nothing, even when their on Intel told them,naive on their part, or to others ISIS was a useful tool to fight Assad.

You can't think for yourself,only if main stream media reports on it...
then best not to think,and be a sheep,like in Animal Farm.:D

Nobbynumbnuts
25-05-2015, 14:06
Helped to create by sitting back and doing nothing, even when their on Intel told them,naive on their part, or to others ISIS was a useful tool to fight Assad.

You can't think for yourself,only if main stream media reports on it...
then best not to think,and be a sheep,like in Animal Farm.:D

Judicial Watch has one major donor, the Scaife Foundation. They practically own it.

Richard Mellon Scaife an American billionaire. Mellon banking and oil fortune,....Scaife was also known for his financial support of conservative public policy...(WIKI)

You couldn't make this stuff up! :D

Uncle Wally
25-05-2015, 16:46
..not an adequate response.

All the world's mainstream media (that's hundreds of publications and news channels) are not owned by one one man.

Your link to the Fox News article is a millions miles away from your original link to an article that claimed the Pentagon has created ISIS.
It says intelligence agencies were aware of arms shipments from Libya to Syria. As you said before..that's their job.



No they're owned by six men and all the big ones for sure. You never heard of operation mocking bird? It's still going on.

Uncle Wally
25-05-2015, 16:50
it's best to keep believing only what the world's main media tells you, not even try and make up your own mind.:book:




Helped to create by sitting back and doing nothing, even when their on Intel told them,naive on their part, or to others ISIS was a useful tool to fight Assad.

You can't think for yourself,only if main stream media reports on it...
then best not to think,and be a sheep,like in Animal Farm.:D



Tell us this, who was America training in Jordan exactly? What happened to them? And why is IS gaining more territory?

AstarD
25-05-2015, 17:21
Judicial Watch has one major donor, the Scaife Foundation. They practically own it.

Richard Mellon Scaife an American billionaire. Mellon banking and oil fortune,....Scaife was also known for his financial support of conservative public policy...(WIKI)

You couldn't make this stuff up! :DYou don't know the HALF of it, Nobby! They meet together every year at area 51 to plan how to take over the world next year.

This is their leader, he's a shadowy figure that you'll never read about in the mainstream press:

28025

Nobbynumbnuts
25-05-2015, 17:27
You don't know the HALF of it, Nobby! They meet together every year at area 51 to plan how to take over the world next year.

This is their leader, he's a shadowy figure that you'll never read about in the mainstream press:

28025

PMSL

Uncle Wally
25-05-2015, 19:15
You don't know the HALF of it, Nobby! They meet together every year at area 51 to plan how to take over the world next year.

This is their leader, he's a shadowy figure that you'll never read about in the mainstream press:

28025




No it's call " Bilderburg and they every year in different locations to plan how to take over the world.

penka
25-05-2015, 19:51
No it's call " Bilderburg and they every year in different locations to plan how to take over the world.

It's the Bilderberg Group, Wally.... Some Royalty are honorary members...
Please, calm down....

Nobbynumbnuts
25-05-2015, 20:30
.....Please, calm down....


You'll have to excuse the enthusiasm, penka. It's all very exciting! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS1_hqw12UI

penka
25-05-2015, 20:34
You'll have to excuse the enthusiasm, penka. It's all very exciting! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS1_hqw12UI

:) Cute!

rumple_stilskin
25-05-2015, 21:28
[QUOTE=Benedikt;1419061][COLOR="Red"]

Ever hear of a country called Qatar?

I recommend everyone to go visit it soon, it won't be on the Map for much longer.

Yemen has a population of 22 million, all poor, and Qatar has 300,000 citizens. Do you think the yemenese are so happy about wealth inequality.

Will the future landlords ship gas to Europe?

Nobbynumbnuts
25-05-2015, 22:07
[QUOTE=fenrir;1419077]

I recommend everyone to go visit it soon, it won't be on the Map for much longer.

Yemen has a population of 22 million, all poor, and Qatar has 300,000 citizens. Do you think the yemenese are so happy about wealth inequality.

Will the future landlords ship gas to Europe?

..more cranky, madcap nonsense.
How are these 22 million Yemenis going to get to Qatar to invade it? :rolleyes:

fenrir
25-05-2015, 22:11
[QUOTE=fenrir;1419077]

I recommend everyone to go visit it soon, it won't be on the Map for much longer.

Yemen has a population of 22 million, all poor, and Qatar has 300,000 citizens. Do you think the yemenese are so happy about wealth inequality.

Will the future landlords ship gas to Europe?

Take a look at a map and tell me how on Earth the 26 million Yemenis in Yemen could do anything to Qatar.

Uncle Wally
25-05-2015, 22:30
It's the Bilderberg Group, Wally.... Some Royalty are honorary members...
Please, calm down....



It was started by the Dutch king as a matter of fact. Could you tell us why they would have to meet for three days every year in secret?

Judge
25-05-2015, 23:36
Tell us this, who was America training in Jordan exactly? What happened to them? And why is IS gaining more territory?

Well, yes, back in2012 they were "moderate"rebels, up against Assad, were a useful tool back then, and still are.
knowing about ISIS back in 2012,the plan for a Islamic State,training them, sitting back and letting them grow into what they are today. .

here's a popular paper reporting on the training of rebels who now are with isis,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/18/the-terrorists-fighting-us-now-we-just-finished-training-them/

AstarD
26-05-2015, 10:07
It was started by the Dutch king as a matter of fact. Could you tell us why they would have to meet for three days every year in secret?

Well, obviously. Anyone who does anything in secret must ipso facto be planning to take over the world.

penka
26-05-2015, 10:49
It was started by the Dutch king as a matter of fact. Could you tell us why they would have to meet for three days every year in secret?

The idea came from some politicians and ex-politicians who approached the father of Princess Beatrix, a Prince at a time. It's just another club of the very wealthy people who want to see their capital grow.
Privacy is indeed, their trademark. You think, that's the indicator of them being the shape-changing lizards?:D

Uncle Wally
26-05-2015, 11:49
The idea came from some politicians and ex-politicians who approached the father of Princess Beatrix, a Prince at a time. It's just another club of the very wealthy people who want to see their capital grow.
Privacy is indeed, their trademark. You think, that's the indicator of them being the shape-changing lizards?:D


No shape changing lizards but maybe a war or two. Population control is another.

rumple_stilskin
26-05-2015, 20:06
[QUOTE=rumple_stilskin;1419292]

Take a look at a map and tell me how on Earth the 26 million Yemenis in Yemen could do anything to Qatar.

Who's map?

I don't think IS are working to your maps, they are making their own.

I would say they will get there from the most direct route, close to as the crow flies would save time.

Nobbynumbnuts
26-05-2015, 21:08
[QUOTE=fenrir;1419294]

Who's map?

I don't think IS are working to your maps, they are making their own.

I would say they will get there from the most direct route, close to as the crow flies would save time.

As the crow flies they will all have to cross the Rub al Khali (Empty Quarter) the largest sand dessert in the world with dunes up to 800ft high.

Carry on dreaming..;)

TolkoRaz
26-05-2015, 21:20
IS / Da'esh are not in Yemen; Sunni extremist areas are aQ controlled!

Next stop for IS / Da'esh will be The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan - that is their ambition, but I do not think the West will allow that to happen. However, it is very good way to get the West to put boots on the ground which is what IS / Da'esh really want - they seek to fight the infidel crusader in the sands. :coffee:

TolkoRaz
26-05-2015, 21:22
As it happens, here you go:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32882166

nicklcool
26-05-2015, 21:54
here's a popular paper reporting on the training of rebels who now are with isis,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/18/the-terrorists-fighting-us-now-we-just-finished-training-them/
Judge sadly you're wasting your time; these are people who cannot make simple inferences by analyzing objective facts.

The cruel irony is,they're demanding extensive multiple source MSM proof from you while probably 3/4 (we could take a poll) of these posters fully believe that Bush started the war for oil, without a smidgen of proof. I bet many of them even have the "Clinton lied no one died" bumper sticker proudly displayed on their priuses!!

fenrir
26-05-2015, 22:11
IS / Da'esh are not in Yemen; Sunni extremist areas are aQ controlled!

Next stop for IS / Da'esh will be The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan - that is their ambition, but I do not think the West will allow that to happen. However, it is very good way to get the West to put boots on the ground which is what IS / Da'esh really want - they seek to fight the infidel crusader in the sands. :coffee:

The US has 7000 troops in Jordan, plus the Israelis will help at least secretly. ISIS might just bite off more than it can chew if they try to come in from the north but they will have greater success in the south where there are a lot of sympathetic Jordanians and probably sleeper cells.

TolkoRaz
26-05-2015, 22:39
The US has 7000 troops in Jordan, plus the Israelis will help at least secretly. ISIS might just bite off more than it can chew if they try to come in from the north but they will have greater success in the south where there are a lot of sympathetic Jordanians and probably sleeper cells.

It seems that you know more than I do!