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quincy
03-05-2015, 00:43
BBC propaganda spin is to cover up the role of Kiev's pro-West oligarchs in the mass murder in Odessa. The BBC is government funded but corporate media reporting also follows foreign policy objectives

The reporting from Ukraine is always from the point of view of the coup regime in Kiev

The story from the victim's point of view is always ignored

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32562101

Uncle Wally
03-05-2015, 01:39
BBC propaganda spin is to cover up the role of Kiev's pro-West oligarchs in the mass murder in Odessa. The BBC is government funded but corporate media reporting also follows foreign policy objectives

The reporting from Ukraine is always from the point of view of the coup regime in Kiev

The story from the victim's point of view is always ignored

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32562101




MH17 is forgotten. People in Odessa stay out of politics because of arrest. Protest still go on and the killing of political opponents.

Fantastika
03-05-2015, 05:37
The typical Western reporter:

Gets up at 09:00 in his $400/day Kiev hotel room, watches the TV "newscast" of Andrei Lysenko's daily press briefing, writes a story on his notebook for his newspaper or TV boss, the story is a slight re-wording of Lysenko's talking points, then spends the rest of the day surfing the internet or going out to restaurants and night clubs. Returns at midnight to his $400/day Kiev hotel room.

fenrir
03-05-2015, 09:30
MH17 is forgotten. People in Odessa stay out of politics because of arrest. Protest still go on and the killing of political opponents.

It's not forgotten at all. We in the West are waiting for the official report to be released.

fenrir
03-05-2015, 09:34
BBC propaganda spin is to cover up the role of Kiev's pro-West oligarchs in the mass murder in Odessa. The BBC is government funded but corporate media reporting also follows foreign policy objectives

The reporting from Ukraine is always from the point of view of the coup regime in Kiev

The story from the victim's point of view is always ignored

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32562101

The real victims are the Ukrainians who were attacked first. The Russians, unfortunately for them but they took the risk, got the worst of it in the following fighting.

quincy
03-05-2015, 10:13
The real victims are the Ukrainians who were attacked first. The Russians, unfortunately for them but they took the risk, got the worst of it in the following fighting.

The coup authority in Ukraine which represents only part of Ukrainian society had a part in the massacre. That is why Western propaganda wants to cover up the atrocity

Russians? Russia is hundreds of miles from Odessa you muppet!

fenrir
03-05-2015, 16:34
Russians? Russia is hundreds of miles from Odessa you muppet!

Then how could any Russians have been killed in Odessa, genius?

quincy
04-05-2015, 00:08
You are confusing pro-Russian with Russian!

In 2010 more than half the population of Ukraine had voted for a party that supported close links with Russia

fenrir
04-05-2015, 09:30
You are confusing pro-Russian with Russian!

In 2010 more than half the population of Ukraine had voted for a party that supported close links with Russia

So, you are saying NO ethnic Russians were killed in Odessa then. It was only ethnic Ukrainians killing ethnic Ukrainians, yes?

Uncle Wally
04-05-2015, 10:28
It's not forgotten at all. We in the West are waiting for the official report to be released.


And waiting, and will be waiting because Ukraine gave it's self the right not to make it public. It's just funny how the west is not try to push their theory anymore.

quincy
04-05-2015, 11:02
And waiting, and will be waiting because Ukraine gave it's self the right not to make it public. It's just funny how the west is not try to push their theory anymore.


The West very likely supported the mass killing otherwise it would have been condemned long ago in the corporate media.

The purpose of the mass killing was to intimidate and terrorize anyone who disagreed with the coup regime.

Uncle Wally
04-05-2015, 12:07
The West very likely supported the mass killing otherwise it would have been condemned long ago in the corporate media.

The purpose of the mass killing was to intimidate and terrorize anyone who disagreed with the coup regime.




Yes and as understand it, the intimidation still goes on.

quincy
05-05-2015, 11:19
The BBC spin on Saudi Arabia's daily atrocities against Yemen.


Senegal is to send 2,100 troops to support the Saudi-led campaign in Yemen, its foreign minister says.
Mankeur Ndiaye said Senegal was responding to a Saudi request to help secure the kingdom's border with Yemen.

No mention of the 3,000 murdered in Yemen by Saudi Arabia's daily bombing and the thousands more injured, or Saudi prevention of humanitarian aid to Yemen - a war crime!

The BBC wants us to think Saudi aggressors need 'help' to 'secure' their borders!

rumple_stilskin
05-05-2015, 16:46
The BBC spin on Saudi Arabia's daily atrocities against Yemen.



No mention of the 3,000 murdered in Yemen by Saudi Arabia's daily bombing and the thousands more injured, or Saudi prevention of humanitarian aid to Yemen - a war crime!

The BBC wants us to think Saudi aggressors need 'help' to 'secure' their borders!

I think it was Equador that passed a law in the last few years that owners of the newspapers and television cannot be active in other areas of the economy.

Even third world countries are more advanced in democracy than the 'west'.

Fantastika
05-05-2015, 17:05
The BBC spin on Saudi Arabia's daily atrocities against Yemen.

Senegal is to send 2,100 troops to support the Saudi-led campaign in Yemen, its foreign minister says.
Mankeur Ndiaye said Senegal was responding to a Saudi request to help secure the kingdom's border with Yemen.

No mention of the 3,000 murdered in Yemen by Saudi Arabia's daily bombing and the thousands more injured, or Saudi prevention of humanitarian aid to Yemen - a war crime!

The BBC wants us to think Saudi aggressors need 'help' to 'secure' their borders!

Senegal? Oh, right, this is strictly a cash for troops deal...I guess Saudi's don't want to get their pretty hands dirty, so they hire some poor nig.....

Saudi Arabia asked Pakistan for troops, but they refused. Just what the Middle East needs, a nuclear-armed country involved in the peninsula. :eek:

Saudi Arabia, what a country! They actually still have a king! Not like England, a token figure, but a real king with real head-chopping power. This is where ISIS gets its inspiration.

Uncle Wally
05-05-2015, 18:16
I think it was Equador that passed a law in the last few years that owners of the newspapers and television cannot be active in other areas of the economy.

Even third world countries are more advanced in democracy than the 'west'.



That's right!

rumple_stilskin
05-05-2015, 18:35
That's right!

in terms of democracy, america is fourth world

quincy
07-05-2015, 07:44
Senegal? Oh, right, this is strictly a cash for troops deal...I guess Saudi's don't want to get their pretty hands dirty, so they hire some poor nig.....

Saudi Arabia asked Pakistan for troops, but they refused. Just what the Middle East needs, a nuclear-armed country involved in the peninsula. :eek:

Saudi Arabia, what a country! They actually still have a king! Not like England, a token figure, but a real king with real head-chopping power. This is where ISIS gets its inspiration.

Senegal is hiring out its troops to Saudi Arabia as mercenaries. The Saudis drop bombs from the skies on defenceless people below. Obama, Cameron and the corporate media have given the green light to the murder, destruction and now starvation their Saudi friends are causing in Yemen

Fantastika
07-05-2015, 08:17
Senegal is hiring out its troops to Saudi Arabia as mercenaries. The Saudis drop bombs from the skies on defenceless people below. Obama, Cameron and the corporate media have given the green light to the murder, destruction and now starvation their Saudi friends are causing in Yemen

Yeah, I can see some new Saudi pilot dropping bombs on civilian targets, they are new to this game and don't have much military experience.

The government in Senegal is probably putting the Saudi cash in their Swiss bank accounts and paying their peon soldiers a pittance.

Why the US continues to support Saudi Arabia is beyond me. Talk about ISIS? - the Saudis chop off heads and stone women as part of their "criminal justice" system.

There is no need to continue to support such a backward country. The US has plenty of its own oil now.

quincy
07-05-2015, 10:36
Noam Chomsky: Yemen is the most extraordinary global terrorism campaign in history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyUX7e7g_Zs

rumple_stilskin
07-05-2015, 10:45
Why the US continues to support Saudi Arabia is beyond me.

PetroDollar. This has always been the number one reason to support Saudi arabia, they demand payment for oil in US dollars. The main reason was never about the oil for USA.

Secondly, Saudi Arabia is rule by the few over the many. They are afraid of people power and governments in the region where the government actually represents the people. The possibility exists where rule by the will of the people could spread to their own country resulting in their own heads getting chopped off or being exiled to their luxury yachts.

So the Saudi's and the Americans have a common enemy and can help each other by smashing rule by the people in the region. That rule by the people threatens both the Saudi monarchy and American corporate/Israeli interests in the region.

Rule by the few over the many is a fundamental aspect of american society and so of course Saudi's and Yankee's are best friends.(reality of american society and what brainwashed americans think are of course two different things)

quincy
07-05-2015, 11:54
PetroDollar. This has always been the number one reason to support Saudi arabia, they demand payment for oil in US dollars. The main reason was never about the oil for USA.

Secondly, Saudi Arabia is rule by the few over the many. They are afraid of people power and governments in the region where the government actually represents the people. The possibility exists where rule by the will of the people could spread to their own country resulting in their own heads getting chopped off or being exiled to their luxury yachts.

So the Saudi's and the Americans have a common enemy and can help each other by smashing rule by the people in the region. That rule by the people threatens both the Saudi monarchy and American corporate/Israeli interests in the region.



Yes those are the reasons why the Saudi invasion of Yemen is being supported

quincy
07-05-2015, 13:34
The OPU leader turned down the BBC's repeated interview requests because he said in an email it "will twist the truth".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32595514

quincy
09-05-2015, 12:44
Today from the BBC web site:


Sunni Muslim Saudi Arabia has accused Shia rival Iran of arming the Houthis, a charge Iran and the Houthis deny.
The Saudis have been sheltering the internationally recognised Yemeni President Mansour Abdrabbuh Hadi, who fled there in March.

The propaganda is beyond belief!

Saudi Arabia is breaking all humanitarian conventions by blocking aid to millions of hungry people in Yemen and preventing medical aid to the thousands of injured (mostly caused by Saudi bombing) , and all the BBC can say is, it is "sheltering" an ex-president who the Yemeni people say was imposed on them by Saudi Arabia and Washington