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Uncle Wally
29-01-2015, 22:53
It has just come out that Libya was not using planes to bomb civilians nor were they killing thousands of people with army troops. It was all lies just to kill Gaddafi.

Benedikt
29-01-2015, 23:09
It has just come out that Libya was not using planes to bomb civilians nor were they killing thousands of people with army troops. It was all lies just to kill Gaddafi.


started with the Gulf of Tongking, JFK, 9/11 and goes on. and has never stopped. I f it is convenient for them they do it. if they need an excuse they make one up. and when it is lies and tricks, does not matter. and =Jo Public= swallows it, all the time and every time. because they believe THEIR government is the best and they for sure are always right and can do no wrong.

Uncle Wally
29-01-2015, 23:35
I read a little while ago about how Spain sunk the USS Maine but the person talking about it forgot to mention they never did that it was America who sunk her own ship. America wanted Cuba and that's all.

Yaks
29-01-2015, 23:37
It has just come out that Libya was not using planes to bomb civilians nor were they killing thousands of people with army troops. It was all lies just to kill Gaddafi.

Which is really funny since it was Europe and the Arab league that were begging for intervention which the US only reluctantly agreed to at the last minute and they were also the first to leave the coalition. Not only that it also passed a security council resolution with China and Russia not using their Veto.

When Gadaffi got on the radio and said he would hunt everyone down going door to door to kill the "rats" who were the people fighting against him Benghazi, and there was a potential massacre of 10s of 1000s of people-and he was bragging about it and taunting the west-only then did they finally act.

What is far worse than the US in Libya is Russia's protection of Assad the butcher who managed to kill more than 100,000 people before Isis and other groups formed.

Nobbynumbnuts
29-01-2015, 23:58
I read a little while ago about how Spain sunk the USS Maine but the person talking about it forgot to mention they never did that it was America who sunk her own ship. America wanted Cuba and that's all.

...was sunk in Havana harbour. I stood before the memorial 10 days ago on the Malecon in Havana. No one really knows for sure how it was sunk...

Uncle Wally
30-01-2015, 01:25
Which is really funny since it was Europe and the Arab league that were begging for intervention which the US only reluctantly agreed to at the last minute and they were also the first to leave the coalition. Not only that it also passed a security council resolution with China and Russia not using their Veto.

When Gadaffi got on the radio and said he would hunt everyone down going door to door to kill the "rats" who were the people fighting against him Benghazi, and there was a potential massacre of 10s of 1000s of people-and he was bragging about it and taunting the west-only then did they finally act.

What is far worse than the US in Libya is Russia's protection of Assad the butcher who managed to kill more than 100,000 people before Isis and other groups formed.



Delusionary is what I would call this post.

I also remember Russia showing satellite imagery of normal activity in places America was saying all this fighting was going on. As for Syria we know that was foreign terrorist who started the fighting.

You saying ISIS are the good guys?

Uncle Wally
30-01-2015, 01:28
...was sunk in Havana harbour. I stood before the memorial 10 days ago on the Malecon in Havana. No one really knows for sure how it was sunk...



You really think Spain would have done such a thing?

Did you hear Cuba now wants Guantanamo back.

Nobbynumbnuts
30-01-2015, 01:54
You really think Spain would have done such a thing?

Did you hear Cuba now wants Guantanamo back.

Because we think something, doesn't make it fact. Isn't that obvious?
There are no facts. The Maine could have hit a mine, a fire set off the magazine etc etc.

It's called politics. Cuba also wants an end to the embargo among other things too.
The more you put on the table, the more you are likely to end up getting....

Benedikt
30-01-2015, 08:31
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Because we think something, doesn't make it fact. Isn't that obvious?
There are no facts. The Maine could have hit a mine, a fire set off the magazine etc etc.

It's called politics. Cuba also wants an end to the embargo among other things too.
The more you put on the table, the more you are likely to end up getting....

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one thing is for sur: where there is smoke, there is a fire

Uncle Wally
30-01-2015, 09:58
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/28/hillary-clinton-undercut-on-libya-war-by-pentagon-/?page=1




The tapes, reviewed by The Washington Times and authenticated by the participants, chronicle U.S. officials’ unfiltered conversations with Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s son and a top Libyan leader, including criticisms that Mrs. Clinton had developed tunnel vision and led the U.S. into an unnecessary war without adequately weighing the intelligence community’s concerns.



In one conversation to the Libyans, the American intelligence asset said, “I can tell you that the president is not getting accurate information, so at some point someone has to get accurate information to him. I think about a way through former Secretary Gates or maybe to Adm. Mullen to get him information”



“Neither the intervention decision nor the regime change decision was an intelligence-heavy decision,” said one senior intelligence official directly involved with the administration’s decision-making, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “People weren’t on the edge of their seats, intelligence wasn’t driving the decision one way or another.”

Instead of relying on the Defense Department or the intelligence community for analysis, officials told The Times, the White House trusted Mrs. Clinton’s charge, which was then supported by Ambassador to the United Nations Susan E. Rice and National Security Council member Samantha Power, as reason enough for war.

Uncle Wally
30-01-2015, 10:05
Because we think something, doesn't make it fact. Isn't that obvious?
There are no facts. The Maine could have hit a mine, a fire set off the magazine etc etc.

It's called politics. Cuba also wants an end to the embargo among other things too.
The more you put on the table, the more you are likely to end up getting....





When you can not get all the facts about a crime you look to who had the most to gain, Spain had nothing to gain and all the more to lose.



Cuba wants? How can you have "normal relations" with an embargo? It's America that brought this to the table not Cuba and why? Because they know it will be easier to overthrow the Cuban government.

rubyrussia
30-01-2015, 10:06
Another post about America, Wally??? I'd say that the two of you need couples counseling.

rumple_stilskin
30-01-2015, 11:31
Another post about America, Wally??? I'd say that the two of you need couples counseling.

Spread the truth and smash the lies....post all you want wally

rubyrussia
30-01-2015, 12:11
Spread the truth and smash the lies....post all you want wally

Yeah! Freedom isn't free! It costs folks like you and me!
:cheerleader:

Uncle Wally
30-01-2015, 12:15
Yeah! Freedom isn't free! It costs folks like you and me!
:cheerleader:



What does it cost you by my posting this thread?

Nobbynumbnuts
30-01-2015, 12:21
When you can not get all the facts about a crime you look to who had the most to gain, Spain had nothing to gain and all the more to lose.



Cuba wants? How can you have "normal relations" with an embargo? It's America that brought this to the table not Cuba and why? Because they know it will be easier to overthrow the Cuban government.


I'll inform the Cubans..

Uncle Wally
30-01-2015, 12:27
I'll inform the Cubans..



They know, if you didn't hear Obama made a big deal about it then dropped the ball so to speak. It wasn't Cuba that extended a hand first it was America. This after failed attempts to start an uprising on Twitter and Facebook.

Fantastika
03-02-2015, 03:30
It has just come out that Libya was not using planes to bomb civilians nor were they killing thousands of people with army troops. It was all lies just to kill Gaddafi.

Blame it on Hillary Clinton. According to the Washington Times, she believed Gaddafi was going to go on a genocide of his people, so she convinced a reluctant Obama and a reluctant Defense Department to get the US involved. Maybe her feminist imagination took over. Another case of "Arab-Spring Fever" - deposing a strong but not Islamo-fascist leader, such as Mubarak, Assad, etc. and getting for a replacement, not a democracy, but a chaotic Islamo-fascist cauldron.

Having brought finis to the dear Colonel, she and Obama were both unavailable to answer the phone or respond for pleas of help later, when the Libyan ambassador was attacked, tortured and murdered (by the enemies of Gaddafi). She and Obama still haven't told anyone what they were doing during those 12 hours.

Fantastika
03-02-2015, 03:42
Cuba wants? How can you have "normal relations" with an embargo? It's America that brought this to the table not Cuba and why? Because they know it will be easier to overthrow the Cuban government.

Cuba uses the "embargo" as a justification for continued repression of the Cuban people. Anyway, it's not an "embargo" when only one country in the entire world does not trade. Cuba enjoys trade with all the other countries, so what's their excuse for still being an economic basket case 56 years after the Castro's led the island nation into the promised land of Big-Government paradise?

Guantanamo, Obama is busy emptying the cells of the terrorists still held there. Wouldn't surprise me if Obama found $3 or $4 billion to shower on the Castros to correct the "injustice" of the embargo, went down to Havana and planted large sloppy kisses on their big socialist toes.

Uncle Wally
03-02-2015, 10:01
Cuba uses the "embargo" as a justification for continued repression of the Cuban people. Anyway, it's not an "embargo" when only one country in the entire world does not trade. Cuba enjoys trade with all the other countries, so what's their excuse for still being an economic basket case 56 years after the Castro's led the island nation into the promised land of Big-Government paradise?

Guantanamo, Obama is busy emptying the cells of the terrorists still held there. Wouldn't surprise me if Obama found $3 or $4 billion to shower on the Castros to correct the "injustice" of the embargo, went down to Havana and planted large sloppy kisses on their big socialist toes.



All other countries huh. Can you name them and what they trade.

Yaks
03-02-2015, 11:41
I didn't say ISIS were the good guys, I said Assad had butchered 100,000+ of his own people before ISIS was even formed.

rumple_stilskin
03-02-2015, 15:11
Cuba uses the "embargo" as a justification for continued repression of the Cuban people. Anyway, it's not an "embargo" when only one country in the entire world does not trade. Cuba enjoys trade with all the other countries, so what's their excuse for still being an economic basket case 56 years after the Castro's led the island nation into the promised land of Big-Government paradise?

Guantanamo, Obama is busy emptying the cells of the terrorists still held there. Wouldn't surprise me if Obama found $3 or $4 billion to shower on the Castros to correct the "injustice" of the embargo, went down to Havana and planted large sloppy kisses on their big socialist toes.

There are plenty of Companies in third countries, that operate in the US, that have been threatened with penalties if they trade with Cuba - so they don't.

The proximity of the US is also a problem, the companies that supply many central american countries with goods and services can't do so to Cuba. So logistics and distance.

By the way, they have free healthcare in Cuba, higher life expectancy than the US, lower infant mortality and are not a gun crazy society where two year olds regularly shoot dead their family with pistols and submachine guns.

If they didn't have warmonger freaks on top of them they could spend less money on defense and thwarting subversion.

You might find people are happier in Cuba than the USA. Despite the lack of ferrari's.

Fantastika
04-02-2015, 22:34
There are plenty of Companies in third countries, that operate in the US, that have been threatened with penalties if they trade with Cuba - so they don't.

Yeah, I read that used to happen...50 years ago.


The proximity of the US is also a problem, the companies that supply many central american countries with goods and services can't do so to Cuba. So logistics and distance.

Doesn't make any sense.


By the way, they have free healthcare in Cuba, higher life expectancy than the US, lower infant mortality and are not a gun crazy society where two year olds regularly shoot dead their family with pistols and submachine guns.

Castro's propaganda machine: "All Cubans are now able to receive excellent healthcare, which is also free." But the truth is very different. Castro has built excellent health facilities for the use of foreigners, who pay with hard currency for those services.
Argentinean soccer star Maradona, for example, has traveled several times to Cuba to receive treatment to combat his drug addiction. But Cubans are not even allowed to visit those facilities. Cubans who require medical attention must go to other hospitals, that lack the most minimum requirements needed to take care of their patients.



The Real Cuba (http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm)

Don't click on the pictures about the psychiatric patients, at this website, unless you have a strong stomach! Looks like Auschwitz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNhgym2bMtA#t=22


If they didn't have warmonger freaks on top of them they could spend less money on defense and thwarting subversion.

Yes, that's the excuse Castro uses to justify his continual dictatorship and explain to his serfs why they are still in poverty and lack human rights.


You might find people are happier in Cuba than the USA. Despite the lack of ferrari's.

Well, that's good! So if I go there on a visit, I won't be trampled by a mob seeking to return with me when I go back to the US? :rofl:

Benedikt
05-02-2015, 06:12
Cuba wants? How can you have "normal relations" with an embargo? It's America that brought this to the table not Cuba and why? Because they know it will be easier to overthrow the Cuban government.[/QUOTE]



and never succeeded. he will die of old age in his bed..
and recent events showed there will be no coup or putsch or anything else of that sort. in Florida of course the exile Cubans are not to happy about it.