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AstarD
08-06-2016, 16:32
The song below: Medvedev: We have worked hard for many years, you hold on here, all is great, we are selling a lot of oil, gas, timber, the country is receiving a lot of cash - but there is no money left for you, you hold on here, have good health, we are going on vacation on our private jets to the Maldives, to France, etc., we would have taken you with us, but there is no money, you hold on here and have good health!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as61abngRHI

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americaninmoscow
08-06-2016, 17:16
I am always playing, who told you I am not?

so, where is your office at skolkovo?

AstarD
08-06-2016, 17:31
You mean, no office at Skolkovo means no playing? :thinking:

fenrir
08-06-2016, 17:32
It looks like the whole project Skolkovo is doing OK,there was a time when many thought it was a useless idea and wouldn't last.



http://rbth.com/science_and_tech/2016/06/07/more-than-1-million-invested-in-russian-tech-startups-in-just-two-days_600989

How does that compare to Silicon Valley?

americaninmoscow
08-06-2016, 18:01
You mean, no office at Skolkovo means no playing? :thinking:

well, it sure doesn't mean that has his hand in the collective pie......

Russian Lad
08-06-2016, 19:18
so, where is your office at skolkovo?

Why do I need one? I don't need an office for something like below.:)) Have you found yourself a Russian bride yet?:)) Besides, the name itself, Skolkovo, I don't like it one bit. Осколки means splinters in Russian, скол means a dent, a fracture, a deformation. I would never want to associate myself with splinters or deformations of any kind and shape...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vNI7AQmg3c

AstarD
08-06-2016, 19:26
Hey! No part for ladies looking for Russian husbands?

Russian Lad
08-06-2016, 19:40
Hey! No part for ladies looking for Russian husbands?

You think there would be a vibrant demand? I sort of doubt it. Well, I am still available.:)

FatAndy
08-06-2016, 20:00
Hey! No part for ladies looking for Russian husbands?
I'm afraid the proposal of husbands is (almost) exhausted. At least demographic data say. Additionally, how foreign girls can compete with ours? :)

Judge
08-06-2016, 20:35
Judge, I don't post some random videos usually, I post videos related to a thread. In this case, the song I posted is related to the Russian economy thread, not sure how yours does.:)
As to Skolkovo, when will I get to use a single product from their "startups"? It all seems to be hot air about nothing. I have my own startup and I already can use it to date Russian women, for instance. Don't need Skolkovo for that, but I would be gladly using their startup dating platform. They are utterly incapable it seems, at least I don't see their products I can use in my daily life. What Skolkovo products are you using, can you name one? Or it is just hot talk about nothing?:smug:
Most of their startups are mockups to embezzle cash it seems, at least the ones I have seen on federal tv channels. I don't see their startups used on a large scale by consumers in their daily lives - isn't it what startups are about? Please prove me wrong, let me see how Skolkovo startups have changed our lives for the better, I want to feel pride for Russia's advanced hi-tech development.:)))

Sitting around doing nothing waiting for the next Steve Jobs to come along won't get us very far, from Skolkovo there's been help in many ways from, 3D printer to ISS, Russia’s first 3D organ printer to mechanised suits to help disabled people walk.There are 1500 companies there, many more are flocking, the place is growing, you're the one who says Russia is just a pump station, when they try something you all you do is knock it.

Btw, I see you're ain't gloating about the weak ruble much.


You think there would be a vibrant demand? I sort of doubt it. Well, I am still available.:)
Love is in the air,
You passport hunter :winking:


How does that compare to Silicon Valley?

I think it's safe to put you in the group who thought this was a useless idea and wouldn't last,since you posted ,your own words you don't have much faith in what Russia does.Sochi games proved wrong and now with power to Crimea and then the bridge,again wrong.
Investors in skolkovo are Microsoft, Samsung, Cisco, Nokia and Boeing to name a few,also MIT partnered in the Skoltech university, these companies do have faith.

Russian Lad
08-06-2016, 21:08
Sitting around doing nothing waiting for the next Steve Jobs to come along won't get us very far, from Skolkovo there's been help in many ways from, 3D printer to ISS, Russia’s first 3D organ printer to mechanised suits to help disabled people walk.There are 1500 companies there, many more are flocking, the place is growing, you're the one who says Russia is just a pump station, when they try something you all you do is knock it.

Btw, I see you're ain't gloating about the weak ruble much.


Love is in the air,
You passport hunter :winking:



I think it's safe to put you in the group who thought this was a useless idea and wouldn't last,since you posted ,your own words you don't have much faith in what Russia does.Sochi games proved wrong and now with power to Crimea and then the bridge,again wrong.
Investors in skolkovo are Microsoft, Samsung, Cisco, Nokia and Boeing to name a few,also MIT partnered in the Skoltech university, these companies do have faith.

Yes, a pumping station, which has gone a bit mad lately. A pumping station throwing tantrums and being shown its true place. Being taught a well-deserved lesson. Skolkovo was set to imitate its successful Western counterpart, but once again, I don't see any fruit that I can use personally. If Western companies sniff around there, it is only with the purpose of headhunting and looking for possible innovation ideas. Mrzuzzo escaped from this sinking ship when it was really sinking, at present I think it is mostly an imitation of a frenzied activity to embezzle funds - at least that's the impression I have after watching some programs about Skolkovo on some federal tv channels.
As to the ruble, wait till the end of the year. How much was the dollar in June last year? I think it was around 52 rubles. How much is it now? At least 10 rubles higher in comparison with the last year. I am 100% sure this deadly trend will continue unabated. Let's see how much it is by the end of the year. Цыплят по осени считают.(С)
As to the bridge to the Crimea, there are many reports they have run out of money for that. http://www.forbes.ru/rassledovaniya/kompanii/322179-byurokraticheskaya-yama-kerchenskii-most-ostalsya-bez-finansirovaniya
They don't even have money to index the measly pensions to the Crimean pensioners and Medvedev told them so rather unequivocally, you want me to believe they will have money to build that bridge? Rilly? Hohoho. Even if they had the money, I think no bridge can be built there, the storms and the currents are too strong. Even if they do build it there it will be abandoned after a while I am 100% sure of it, due to its operation problems. Let's see who is right.:)

TolkoRaz
08-06-2016, 21:19
How does that compare to Silicon Valley?

You mean this Silicon Valley?

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FatAndy
08-06-2016, 21:21
You mean this Silicon Valley?
The theme of t!t$ isn't disclosed properly!

Carl
08-06-2016, 21:26
Btw, I see you're ain't gloating about the weak ruble much..

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Judge
08-06-2016, 21:30
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:big-grin: good one

Is that Estonia plates, Fenrir is that you?

FatAndy
08-06-2016, 21:31
As to the bridge to the Crimea, there are many reports they have run out of money for that. http://www.forbes.ru/rassledovaniya/kompanii/322179-byurokraticheskaya-yama-kerchenskii-most-ostalsya-bez-finansirovaniya <...>
Even if they had the money, I think no bridge can be built there, the storms and the currents are too strong.

Oh, the single source of Forbes (the bright example of "reputable independent Western media"®) can't lie :D
Philology education includes basics of geology, hydrology, hydrography and construction? I envy in silence, comrade...
Talk to Carbo ;)

TolkoRaz
08-06-2016, 21:33
Oh, the single source of Forbes (the bright example of "reputable independent Western media"®) can't lie :D
Philology education includes basics of geology, hydrology, hydrography and construction? I envy in silence, comrade...
Talk to Carbo ;)

The actual issue regarding the Taman Kerch bridge is that the funds from the $1Billion loan are not being released quickly enough to allow construction to go ahead at full speed!

FatAndy
08-06-2016, 21:38
:big-grin: good one

Is that Estonia plates, Fenrir is that you?
Sure, Estonia and other "baltic tigers" are the basic contributors in the ruble fall down ;)

Russian Lad
08-06-2016, 21:43
Philology education includes basics of geology, hydrology, hydrography and construction? I envy in silence, comrade...

I worked as a translator for engineering and technical companies for 10 years. So, I have been to quite a few construction/production/operation/extraction sites. I know there is a big difference between what is on paper and what turns out in reality - even in Western companies and with enough funds.
Yes, Judge - a good one. I would title it - Assume the position/Polite&Hard Currencies/We will be back/To be continued/Please be so kind as to bend on your knees again - or something of the sort.

fenrir
09-06-2016, 08:59
:big-grin: good one

Is that Estonia plates, Fenrir is that you?

Not mine, but it's funny.

fenrir
09-06-2016, 09:01
Sure, Estonia and other "baltic tigers" are the basic contributors in the ruble fall down ;)

You can count on us to vote to continue the sanctions!

FatAndy
09-06-2016, 09:14
You can count on us to vote to continue the sanctions!
Voting? Occupied "countries" has no voting, just fulfilling master orders :D
The main thing to remember is that our counter-sanctions help economies of "tigers" a lot - you've found so many new markets! :verycool:


I worked as a translator for engineering and technical companies for 10 years. So, I have been to quite a few construction/production/operation/extraction sites.
Oh, so you've became The Specialist. I continue to envy in silence. ;)

fenrir
09-06-2016, 13:02
you've found so many new markets! :verycool

We have actually in both Sweden and Germany. They are more stable trade partners anyway, so it is a win-win situation.

FatAndy
09-06-2016, 14:45
We have actually in both Sweden and Germany. They are more stable trade partners anyway, so it is a win-win situation.
What has happened with China?

Russian Lad
09-06-2016, 14:59
Oh, so you've became The Specialist. I continue to envy in silence.

We can have a bet - if the Bridge is fully operational in 2018 as planned, I owe you USD100, if not - you owe me USD100. Come on, put your money where your mouth is. It concerns Judge as well. :smug: If Putin doesn't let you down and the Bridge is there and working by the end of 2018, you two together will have USD200 to play with, to point fingers at me and to laugh merrily. However, if he lets you down - don't count on my leniency either.:)) Come on, support Mother Russia with your finances. Show the national traitor you have guts.

Judge
09-06-2016, 15:26
2018? sneaky bet, the bridge is " projected to be fully completed and operational by 2019"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerch_Strait_Bridge

Was reading this earlier, another Russian sector doing very well,

"Russian food exports are now worth more than Kalashnikovs and all other military hardware combined",

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20160609/1041043936/russia-grain-food-exports.html#ixzz4B5ItHtrC

Full Bloomberg article here,
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-06-07/putin-is-growing-organic-power-one-t-34-tank-tomato-at-a-time

With Skolkovo doing OK, food exports booming, even in the news Russia building new planes, trying to take on the big guns, Airbus and Boeing,
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-airplane-idUSKCN0YU2FD

Uncle Wally
09-06-2016, 16:06
We can have a bet - if the Bridge is fully operational in 2018 as planned, I owe you USD100, if not - you owe me USD100. Come on, put your money where your mouth is. It concerns Judge as well. :smug: If Putin doesn't let you down and the Bridge is there and working by the end of 2018, you two together will have USD200 to play with, to point fingers at me and to laugh merrily. However, if he lets you down - don't count on my leniency either.:)) Come on, support Mother Russia with your finances. Show the national traitor you have guts.



We all laugh and point fingers at you anyway.

Russian Lad
09-06-2016, 16:10
2018? sneaky bet, the bridge is " projected to be fully completed and operational by 2019"

Oh, it is 2019 now? Why not 2029 or 2459? It was 2018 in the plans: http://en.portnews.ru/news/191815/

fenrir
09-06-2016, 19:31
What has happened with China?

China is Putin's gambit, not Estonia's.

Uncle Wally
09-06-2016, 19:49
Oh, it is 2019 now? Why not 2029 or 2459? It was 2018 in the plans: http://en.portnews.ru/news/191815/


Get used to it. The bridge will be completed and Crimea will never be part of Ukraine again. Not that it ever really was ever.

Uncle Wally
09-06-2016, 19:50
China is Putin's gambit, not Estonia's.


And yours is cheap beer.

FatAndy
09-06-2016, 20:10
China is Putin's gambit, not Estonia's.
I mean the huge market for Estonian dairy products, someone mentioned, either you or Estonian agricultural official, don't remember. So failed? :)

Uncle Wally
09-06-2016, 20:28
I mean the huge market for Estonian dairy products, someone mentioned, either you or Estonian agricultural official, don't remember. So failed? :)


You mean Estonia has lost their biggest market? How? Can't they just send the milk to America or Europe?

fenrir
09-06-2016, 22:06
And yours is cheap beer.

No. Wally. Ours is our Scandinavian and other EU trade partners. They don't cut trade just because wifee didn't give them any the night before. They are far more reliable, and that in the end means, profitable.

fenrir
09-06-2016, 22:10
I mean the huge market for Estonian dairy products, someone mentioned, either you or Estonian agricultural official, don't remember. So failed? :)

The dairy market has already been redirected and is also in the process of transformation. Many inefficient operators have had to reform or die, and smaller producers are now transitioning from just selling raw milk to producing value-added products, which is something the government has been pushing for years. The new market has fixed the situation. And dairy products are still at great price levels!!!

Uncle Wally
09-06-2016, 23:08
No. Wally. Ours is our Scandinavian and other EU trade partners. They don't cut trade just because wifee didn't give them any the night before. They are far more reliable, and that in the end means, profitable.

I doubt it. With French, German, Polish dairy farmers crying about loss sales and low price.

fenrir
09-06-2016, 23:33
I doubt it. With French, German, Polish dairy farmers crying about loss sales and low price.

Raw milk producers are suffering because prices have fallen dramatically (great for consumers!), so the smart ones are now moving into producing cheeses, yogurt etc. to stay competitive. That's how capitalism and free markets work.

Russian Lad
10-06-2016, 03:56
From the official report of the Russian Federation government: "Beef is becoming an expensive niche product, hence a massive support of this segment is not desirable". http://ac.gov.ru/files/publication/a/8972.pdf The first sentence on the page 5 of the report. Hey, Judge, Wally and the kvas crew - something is terribly wrong in this Russia is great kvas picture of yours. Most of the Russians cannot even afford beef anymore and it is officially recognized by the RF government in their own report. What's next? Bread and rice only on holidays? Kerch bridge, right. Let's see how they build it with nothing but buckwheat in their stomachs. Hohoho. Hilarious.

Judge
10-06-2016, 06:00
According to this the price of beef decreased significantly and not just beef .With the rise in production, goes to show Russia is becoming more and more self sufficient, thanks to the sanctions ,don't you find that hilarious? :big-grin:

On 17 May, Russia’s Agriculture Ministry published a report indicating a sharp drop in meat prices last year. According to the paper, the price for beef dropped 20.3% to RUB192,100 (US$2,877) per tonne. Pork prices decreased 30.8% to RUB149,600 (US$2,241) per tonne, while poultry prices dropped 15% to RUB86,700 (US$1,298) per tonne.

http://mobile.globalmeatnews.com/Industry-Markets/Russia-s-meat-industry-worried-by-oversupply

If you would have mentioned medication prices going up, I would agree with you.


Oh, it is 2019 now? Why not 2029 or 2459? It was 2018 in the plans: http://en.portnews.ru/news/191815/

You said yourself you've worked in the construction business, you should know delays occur on big projects.

Russian Lad
10-06-2016, 07:17
According to this the price of beef decreased significantly and not just beef .With the rise in production, goes to show Russia is becoming more and more self sufficient, thanks to the sanctions ,don't you find that hilarious? :big-grin:

On 17 May, Russia’s Agriculture Ministry published a report indicating a sharp drop in meat prices last year. According to the paper, the price for beef dropped 20.3% to RUB192,100 (US$2,877) per tonne. Pork prices decreased 30.8% to RUB149,600 (US$2,241) per tonne, while poultry prices dropped 15% to RUB86,700 (US$1,298) per tonne.

http://mobile.globalmeatnews.com/Industry-Markets/Russia-s-meat-industry-worried-by-oversupply

If you would have mentioned medication prices going up, I would agree with you.



You said yourself you've worked in the construction business, you should know delays occur on big projects.

So, the Russian government lied it their report and beef prices are posting a steep drop? Wow. Did you contact them to ensure they get it right? That's a bit confusing - can you kvas people stick to the same story at least between yourselves? I mean, this report I quoted was prepared by the Analytical Center with the Russian Federation Government, nothing less. And the ministry of agriculture seems to be in a dire contradiction with the RF government if what you posted is true. I find it very funny.:)) Who of the two is lying? Besides, your own source told its readers a completely different story in February this year: http://mobile.globalmeatnews.com/Analysis/Russia-s-economic-crisis-hurts-meat-sales
Also, again, your own source tells us Russians are buying much less meat (I assume not because millions of Russians have decided to become vegans): http://mobile.globalmeatnews.com/Financial/Russia-s-meat-giants-see-profits-plummet
Judge, how does it feel to be defeated in your own sandbox? Bet it hurts. Tell me. Even if the prices are dropping the demand seems to be dropping as well - the Russians are out of cash - in dire debt, out of jobs, paid pennies, etc. - make your pick. By the way, I hope those two turkeys from the first article I quoted will not be eaten, they look very RU-patriotic and kvas-leaning:

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Judge
10-06-2016, 07:21
So, the Russian government lied it their report and beef prices are posting a steep drop? Wow. Did you contact them to ensure they get it right?


Of course I have a direct line,24/7 open to ministers office,
And in other news, even the local clothing industry is enjoying a boost in trade,


Once highly dependent on imports, the Russian clothing industry has transformed dramatically over the last few years. The weak ruble has made imported clothes, shoes and accessories less affordable for Russian consumers, giving more space in the market for local manufacturers, especially in the lower priced segment.

http://rbth.com/business/2016/06/08/russian-apparel-makers-set-sights-on-asian-markets_600823

Russian Lad
10-06-2016, 07:50
So, you suddenly don't want to talk about beef anymore?:) Tell me about T-shirts then, where can I get some good Russian ones, 100% cotton? I had to buy a British one for 2500 rubles just yesterday. Is it cheap for an average Ivan making his ends meet? I strongly doubt it. The average Ivan will have to buy a second hand T-shirt that has been worn for many years by a sweating and stinking Chinese (or even Nigerian) peasant. But the Crimea is ours, of course. That's the only thing that matters.

Uncle Wally
10-06-2016, 08:00
So, you suddenly don't want to talk about beef anymore?:) Tell me about T-shirts then, where can I get some good Russian ones, 100% cotton? I had to buy a British one for 2500 rubles just yesterday. Is it cheap for an average Ivan making his ends meet? I strongly doubt it. The average Ivan will have to buy a second hand T-shirt that has been worn for many years by a sweating and stinking Chinese (or even Nigerian) peasant. But the Crimea is ours, of course. That's the only thing that matters.


You can buy a T shirt for 290 rubles.

Judge
10-06-2016, 08:01
From one of your links, they mention a drop in sales in the Q1 of 2016,in Q2 and Q3 there will probably be a jump cos of shasliki season,if it's a hot summer,expect sales to go through the roof,if not, we can always blame it on the weather. Let's see at the end of the year.


Judge, how does it feel to be defeated in your own sandbox? Bet it hurts.
Hurts a lot,but you know the saying, no pain, no gain.

Judge
10-06-2016, 08:10
So, you suddenly don't want to talk about beef anymore?:) Tell me about T-shirts then, where can I get some good Russian ones, 100% cotton? I had to buy a British one for 2500 rubles just yesterday. Is it cheap for an average Ivan making his ends meet? I strongly doubt it. The average Ivan will have to buy a second hand T-shirt that has been worn for many years by a sweating and stinking Chinese (or even Nigerian) peasant. But the Crimea is ours, of course. That's the only thing that matters.

I'll speak about any Russian industry in this thread, I'll admit some are thriving but others aren't. Beef, meat, I posted the most recent report, maybe yours is old news.
About clothes, shirts, not bad prices, Russian brand, see here.

http://www.splav.ru/catalog.aspx?cat=20131120101035500174
If you want cheap t-shirts, just go to Auchan, no need to pay for fancy British branded ones like your good self ,it's all nearly made in China.

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 09:33
I doubt it. With French, German, Polish dairy farmers crying about loss sales and low price.
Fen definitely knows better the local situation, comrade ;)


Tell me about T-shirts then, where can I get some good Russian ones, 100% cotton?
Any decent shopping mall, ТВОЕ fabrics shop. Time to leave your ghetto, comrade ;)


And dairy products are still at great price levels!!!
Polish apples too? :) We do everything for the current well-being of... erhmmmm... EU partners. Enjoy.

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 14:34
Yes, very kind of the Russians to help their American counterparts by putting a US satellite in space
...to cover Latin America with propaganda of Washingtonsky obkom! :rasta:

Judge
10-06-2016, 14:40
...to cover Latin America with propaganda of Washingtonsky obkom! :rasta:


I wonder how much is the budget for that part of the world, they waste $100m on Russia, more or less the cost of a satellite launch.


https://youtu.be/JDjW4Sgh28o

Russian Lad
10-06-2016, 15:47
it's all nearly made in China.

Wait a second, Judge, haven't you just said that the Russian clothes-making industry is seeing a revival? I am pretty sure you did. So, you deliberately lied??? :smug: Now, brazenly lying is a very kvas thing to do and I appreciate your attempt at it, but aren't you supposed to cover your lies somehow? Or you were saying that the Chinese-made clothes are selling better? Then it doesn't make much sense either - the weaker the ruble the higher the price for the Chinese clothes is here. Because one still has to buy clothes for USD in China and sell them here for rubles - and selling Chinese clothes doesn't help the Russian clothes-making industry one bit, either, to say the least.

fenrir
10-06-2016, 16:45
This does not bode well for the Russian economy. It also shows how much confidence many educated and trained Russians have for their country's future.

Russia Facing Biggest Brain Drain in Two Decades

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-facing-biggest-brain-drain-in-two-decades/571758.html

Russian Lad
10-06-2016, 17:21
This does not bode well for the Russian economy. It also shows how much confidence many educated and trained Russians have for their country's future.

Russia Facing Biggest Brain Drain in Two Decades

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-facing-biggest-brain-drain-in-two-decades/571758.html

You are lying, Fenrir! Where is your proof? :scared::scared::scared::tongue::winking: But what about... Oh, sh;t, cannot use this punchline in this case somehow. Wally, help me out with the what about part.

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 17:29
This does not bode well for the Russian economy. It also shows how much confidence many educated and trained Russians have for their country's future.

Russia Facing Biggest Brain Drain in Two Decades

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-facing-biggest-brain-drain-in-two-decades/571758.html
Agentstvo Kontakt, of 467 they anonymously surveyed? :rofl:
Reputable independent Western media ® again? :D

Lithuanian comrades slander that blessed Estonia nas +200% oucome of emigrants... is it true? :)
http://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/ekonomika/4/139246/lietuviu_rekordas_kuriuo_geda_girtis
Anyway, insha alla, comrade.

They definitely have no proof, as same as unemployment level in blessed Estonia ;)

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 17:33
I wonder how much is the budget for that part of the world, they waste $100m on Russia, more or less the cost of a satellite launch.


https://youtu.be/JDjW4Sgh28o
100M? They complain? In US? What a beggars...:D

BTW where is Anal'ny with his Rospil?

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 17:55
CBR interest is down 0.5% to 10.5%. L'alla as sayah...

Uncle Wally
10-06-2016, 17:59
Mercedes Benz is going to start producing their cars in Moscow region.

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 18:02
Mercedes Benz is going to start producing their cars in Moscow region.
Where, in Luhovitsy, ПК #1? :D

Uncle Wally
10-06-2016, 18:33
100M? They complain? In US? What a beggars...:D


What a waste.

Uncle Wally
10-06-2016, 18:34
Where, in Luhovitsy, ПК #1? :D


Don't know. Just they will start putting cars together somewhere in Moscow region.

fenrir
10-06-2016, 18:36
Mercedes Benz is going to start producing their cars in Moscow region.

Links?

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 19:01
What a waste.
Their choice. Taxpayers are occupied with so called PC :D Well, their own f@$ked internal American business :rasta:

Uncle Wally
10-06-2016, 19:52
Their choice. Taxpayers are occupied with so called PC :D Well, their own f@$ked internal American business :rasta:

19 trillion dollars! I heard personal credit card debt is at 1 trillion dollars in the US so it seems you can just keep taking credit until you die. Let someone else worry about it.

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 21:01
19 trillion dollars! I heard personal credit card debt is at 1 trillion dollars in the US so it seems you can just keep taking credit until you die. Let someone else worry about it.
See above - their own f@$ked internal American business.

TolkoRaz
10-06-2016, 21:19
I wonder how much is the budget for that part of the world, they waste $100m on Russia, more or less the cost of a satellite launch.


https://youtu.be/JDjW4Sgh28o

$100 Million! Unbelievable! Should their money not be better spent back home on hospitals etc?

I would to see where they get the figure of $400 Million that the RF 'apparently' spends on basically what is Psychological Operations!

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 21:22
$100 Million! Unbelievable! Should their money be better spent back home on hospitals etc?
...orphans, veterans and pensioners © by Carl :rasta:

fenrir
10-06-2016, 21:25
Mercedes Benz is going to start producing their cars in Moscow region.

No links? Then your claim is BS as usual.

TolkoRaz
10-06-2016, 21:25
In 2015, there were over 500,000 homeless in the US of A; 25% being children!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homelessness-idUSKCN0T908720151120

I bet they would have much preferred hostels or homes being built with that $100Million!

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 21:27
I would to see where they get the figure of $400 Million that the RF 'apparently' spends on basically what is Psychological Operations!
From so called "reputable independent Western media" ® and so called "social networks" © , the reference points of CIA, DoS and other envy beggars. :)

TolkoRaz
10-06-2016, 21:28
No links? Then your claim is BS as usual.

Here are some links! I think you owe Uncle Wally an apology! ;)

https://www.rt.com/business/346064-daimler-mercedes-produce-russia/

http://russianconstruction.com/news-1/24031-mercedes-benz-plant-to-be-built-in-moscow-region.html

http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Daimler-to-begin-Mercedes-Benz-production-in-Moscow-region.html

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 21:30
In 2015, there were over 500,000 homeless in the US of A; 25% being children!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homelessness-idUSKCN0T908720151120

I bet they would have much preferred hostels or homes being built with that $100Million!
It's how capitalism works © by fenrir. And "invisible hand of market", too.


Here are some links! I think you owe Uncle Wally an apology! ;)

https://www.rt.com/business/346064-daimler-mercedes-produce-russia/

http://russianconstruction.com/news-1/24031-mercedes-benz-plant-to-be-built-in-moscow-region.html

http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Daimler-to-begin-Mercedes-Benz-production-in-Moscow-region.html
No CNN coverage (or other RIWM®), means doesn't exist :D. Insha alla...

TolkoRaz
10-06-2016, 21:42
An older report, but from the Imperialist media:

http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150409/ANE/150409865/daimler-nearing-decision-on-russian-mercedes-plant-report-says

FatAndy
10-06-2016, 21:51
http://www.rbc.ru/business/09/06/2016/57597b219a7947d276bf3248 - Prohorov&Sista

Uncle Wally
10-06-2016, 23:46
In 2015, there were over 500,000 homeless in the US of A; 25% being children!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homelessness-idUSKCN0T908720151120

I bet they would have much preferred hostels or homes being built with that $100Million!


That's added to the 600 billion the US spends on the military! The US could buy each one of those homeless people a million dollar house.

fenrir
10-06-2016, 23:50
Here are some links! I think you owe Uncle Wally an apology! ;)

https://www.rt.com/business/346064-daimler-mercedes-produce-russia/

http://russianconstruction.com/news-1/24031-mercedes-benz-plant-to-be-built-in-moscow-region.html

http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Daimler-to-begin-Mercedes-Benz-production-in-Moscow-region.html


However, even your own source says: 'He says negotiations are still underway, and there is no start date set.' I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

Russian Lad
11-06-2016, 00:34
In 2015, there were over 500,000 homeless in the US of A; 25% being children!

What counts is the average standard of living, and it seems to be many times higher in the US or, say, in the GB than in the RF. That's one of the reasons you have the British passport and are not eager to settle down close to Salekamsk or Vorkuta. So, your own deeds reveal the absolute hypocrisy of your words. Bet you don't keep a single ruble in a bank either. :smug: You are just like most of the Russian kvas patriots in power - they say one thing but do something completely different, especially when their well-being and the well-being of their offsprings are concerned.The clock is ticking though, relentlessly, and graves open up slowly, quivering hands reach out and half-decomposed, trembling lips murmur: "Justice. We want justice."

Russian Lad
11-06-2016, 02:00
Another "Show us the proof!" demand gone terribly wrong (if it is a new trend I applaud standing):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXvq8pBmaBU

Judge
11-06-2016, 07:09
Wait a second, Judge, haven't you just said that the Russian clothes-making industry is seeing a revival? I am pretty sure you did. So, you deliberately lied??? :smug: Now, brazenly lying is a very kvas thing to do and I appreciate your attempt at it, but aren't you supposed to cover your lies somehow? Or you were saying that the Chinese-made clothes are selling better? Then it doesn't make much sense either - the weaker the ruble the higher the price for the Chinese clothes is here. Because one still has to buy clothes for USD in China and sell them here for rubles - and selling Chinese clothes doesn't help the Russian clothes-making industry one bit, either, to say the least.

Hold the front page,I told a lie, NOT!
The key word in what you quoted was "nearly " .
Some companies are producing abroad others won't be,

Here's the quote again and I've highlighted a keyword,


Once highly dependent on imports, the Russian clothing industry has transformed dramatically over the last few years. The weak ruble has made imported clothes, shoes and accessories less affordable for Russian consumers, giving more space in the market for local manufacturers, especially in the lower priced segment.

TolkoRaz
11-06-2016, 10:19
However, even your own source says: 'He says negotiations are still underway, and there is no start date set.' I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

Agreed, but the links refer to what Uncle Wally was posting about...but, lets try to be positive about some good news! :)

FatAndy
11-06-2016, 11:55
I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
Should you? Does anybody expect? :rasta:

vossy7
11-06-2016, 14:23
What counts is the average standard of living, and it seems to be many times higher in the US or, say, in the GB than in the RF. That's one of the reasons you have the British passport and are not eager to settle down close to Salekamsk or Vorkuta. So, your own deeds reveal the absolute hypocrisy of your words. Bet you don't keep a single ruble in a bank either. :smug: You are just like most of the Russian kvas patriots in power - they say one thing but do something completely different, especially when their well-being and the well-being of their offsprings are concerned.The clock is ticking though, relentlessly, and graves open up slowly, quivering hands reach out and half-decomposed, trembling lips murmur: "Justice. We want justice."
RL , many people confuse standard of living with quality of life ,I am lucky to have many Russian relatives and friends who go about their everyday lives content with what they have , not much I know but enough !

Armoured
11-06-2016, 15:00
Vos, I've been wondering about your quote for ages, as Wilde died in1900 and had limited experience with automobiles.

Turns out it is not really him, just misattributed.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/12/01/lovers/

In short it really dates from the 2000s.

Sorry if this is a crushing bore of a post, but so clearly odd that it Wilde could have said it, and had been on my mind.

Russian Lad
11-06-2016, 15:02
RL , many people confuse standard of living with quality of life ,I am lucky to have many Russian relatives and friends who go about their everyday lives content with what they have , not much I know but enough !

That's a terribly wrong approach that can justify pretty much everything. I know a few hobos who are seemingly content with their standard of living, especially when they find some rotten sausage in a garbage container, but it doesn't mean you and I don't understand it is wrong, does it?
Millions of Russians have been turned into dirt-poor, voiceless, obedient slaves during the last 16 years, but I don't think it is right and correct. And no one envies in silence either.

vossy7
11-06-2016, 16:11
Vos, I've been wondering about your quote for ages, as Wilde died in1900 and had limited experience with automobiles.

Turns out it is not really him, just misattributed.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/12/01/lovers/

In short it really dates from the 2000s.

Sorry if this is a crushing bore of a post, but so clearly odd that it Wilde could have said it, and had been on my mind.
Well my learned friend ....firstly may I say that I am privileged to have someone research my personal byline :smile:
I believe Karl Benz was the inventor of the automobile in 1885 ....... my fellow Dubliner died in 1900 and was a budding Jeremy Clarkson .....methinks Oscar may have sowed the seeds for Top Gear !

vossy7
11-06-2016, 16:20
That's a terribly wrong approach that can justify pretty much everything. I know a few hobos who are seemingly content with their standard of living, especially when they find some rotten sausage in a garbage container, but it doesn't mean you and I don't understand it is wrong, does it?
Millions of Russians have been turned into dirt-poor, voiceless, obedient slaves during the last 16 years, but I don't think it is right and correct. And no one envies in silence either.
RL , you ,no doubt , are a wise man .....and I use that term lightly .There is a bitterness in your Russian soul which only you know about and I would never dare delve into that abyss .....holy shit ,did I just say abyss ......mea culpa :smile:
So I will be supporting the Russan team this evening of course :big-grin:

TolkoRaz
11-06-2016, 17:25
Well my learned friend ....firstly may I say that I am privileged to have someone research my personal byline :smile:
I believe Karl Benz was the inventor of the automobile in 1885 ....... my fellow Dubliner died in 1900 and was a budding Jeremy Clarkson .....methinks Oscar may have sowed the seeds for Top Gear !

Karl Benz was indeed the inventor in 1885 of the gasoline powered vehicle, but Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot in 1769 invented a steam powered vehicle for the military, and there was the first electric powered vehicle invented in 1832 by Robert Anderson.

But, I suppose, the car as we know it today with a gasoline engine, was first invented by Herr Benz.

Russian Lad
11-06-2016, 17:37
RL , you ,no doubt , are a wise man .....and I use that term lightly .There is a bitterness in your Russian soul which only you know about and I would never dare delve into that abyss .....holy shit ,did I just say abyss ......mea culpa

Every soul has its bitterness and joy, yours included. Not that I believe in souls as such. However, let's get back to the fooled and pauperized Russians at hand. I have seen women sending food at the post office today - one was crying and complaining to her friend she doesn't know how to buy food now. The first time I see it since 1993. Russians' standards of living are going down the drain rapidly. The fridge has won.

vossy7
11-06-2016, 18:31
Every soul has its bitterness and joy, yours included. Not that I believe in souls as such. However, let's get back to the fooled and pauperized Russians at hand. I have seen women sending food at the post office today - one was crying and complaining to her friend she doesn't know how to buy food now. The first time I see it since 1993. Russians' standards of living are going down the drain rapidly. The fridge has won.
RL , I have travelled throughout Russia for many years , I suggest that maybe I have seen more of Russia than you will ever see in your lifetime ......and I can tell you that my life has been richer than I could ever imagine for this experience !

FatAndy
11-06-2016, 19:18
I have seen women sending food at the post office today - one was crying and complaining to her friend she doesn't know how to buy food now.
Did you explain her it is done via money, as same as before? :)

Suuryaa
11-06-2016, 20:09
RL , I have travelled throughout Russia for many years , I suggest that maybe I have seen more of Russia than you will ever see in your lifetime ......and I can tell you that my life has been richer than I could ever imagine for this experience !

Have you been to Bolgar?

Russian Lad
11-06-2016, 20:29
Did you explain her it is done via money, as same as before?

Yes, I also told her that she should make herself eat meat more often. She told me her pension is 8 thousand rubles and she cannot afford meat anymore, just like all her Russian friends.

vossy7
11-06-2016, 20:33
Have you been to Bolgar?

Nope Suuryaa....have been to Kazan many times and have relatives in nearby cities...I know this place is very special for some people so good luck to them :smile:

Russian Lad
11-06-2016, 21:01
have been to Kazan many times

News from Kazan then. The RF vice-prime minister Shuvalov: "It is very funny that Russians buy such 20 sq. meters apartments, but they do buy them." He seems to hold the poor Russians in contempt. Let's laugh together with Shuvalov - HaHaHa. Why aren't you laughin? It is a funny joke. HaHaHa. They are so poor they cannot afford a proper apartment but only a small rathole. HaHaHa.


https://tvrain.ru/teleshow/here_and_now/shuvalov_mem-411192/

TolkoRaz
11-06-2016, 21:14
Yes, I also told her that she should make herself eat meat more often. She told me her pension is 8 thousand rubles and she cannot afford meat anymore, just like all her Russian friends.

RusskiLad, How many Size 10 Babushki have you seen?

We all look after our Babushki; they are not starving as you suggest!

Uncle Wally
12-06-2016, 07:06
That's a terribly wrong approach that can justify pretty much everything. I know a few hobos who are seemingly content with their standard of living, especially when they find some rotten sausage in a garbage container, but it doesn't mean you and I don't understand it is wrong, does it?
Millions of Russians have been turned into dirt-poor, voiceless, obedient slaves during the last 16 years, but I don't think it is right and correct. And no one envies in silence either.



Where have you been for the last 16 years? Millions of Russians are doing much better now than they were 16 years ago. Do you just make this stuff up as you go along?

Russian Lad
12-06-2016, 16:02
Where have you been for the last 16 years? Millions of Russians are doing much better now than they were 16 years ago. Do you just make this stuff up as you go along?

There are at least three more million Russians below the official poverty line this year in comparison with the previous year according to the RF government. So, even your masters seem to disagree with you. I am sure the real numbers are way higher. Please obtain a new metodichka from your supervisors, you are using an old one, which results in a sloppy job here. So, no pelmeshka this time around, sorry.

vossy7
12-06-2016, 16:25
There are at least three more million Russians below the official poverty line this year in comparison with the previous year according to the RF government. So, even your masters seem to disagree with you. I am sure the real numbers are way higher. Please obtain a new metodichka from your supervisors, you are using an old one, which results in a sloppy job here. So, no pelmeshka this time around, sorry.

RL, seriously , when did you last venture out of your cocoon ....Russian people are alive and well, maybe they have not heard about you or even care .....the Russian populace is the most resilient race on our planet and they will be forever irrespective of your views!

FatAndy
12-06-2016, 17:07
they will be forever irrespective of your views!
Bro, there is the opinion, they don't care - neither about existence of RL, nor about his views :)

Gadol' adonai umeulal' meod.

Russian Lad
12-06-2016, 20:41
Quote Originally Posted by vossy7 View Post
they will be forever irrespective of your views!
Bro, there is the opinion, they don't care - neither about existence of RL, nor about his views

Gadol' adonai umeulal' meod.

And who has given you two to speak on behalf of all the Russians??? Me, I am referring to the official RF statistics, you are referring to your preconceived ideas rather than to statistics and opt to do so on behalf of the whole country. The North Koreans envy in silence...:smug:
I go shopping every day, I see long lines of people in the street queuing for cheaper vegetables. They don't look neither happy nor content - they are shabbily-dressed, look dirt-poor, suffering from acute malnutrition and utterly humiliated. Resilience is a good thing, but I am here to enjoy life, not to be a martyr or a sufferer because the dear leader thinks it is a great idea for me while he and the other cooperative members can have all the spaciously glamorous palaces, luxurious cars and nubile athletes they fancy for themselves. I refuse to obey and to toe the line - period.
As to who cares or likes my views - I am not a dollar bill to be liked by everybody. And no, I don't count to be remembered by the grateful posterity for my immortal and brilliant posts on expat.ru.:) Maybe you do, I am not sure, that would be very kvas-like and North Korean - but no need to be nervous, I am not going to compete with you in this respect.

vossy7
12-06-2016, 21:01
And who has given you two to speak on behalf of all the Russians??? Me, I am referring to the official RF statistics, you are referring to your preconceived ideas rather than to statistics and opt to do so on behalf of the whole country. The North Koreans envy in silence...:smug:
I go shopping every day, I see long lines of people in the street queuing for cheaper vegetables. They don't look neither happy nor content - they are shabbily-dressed, look dirt-poor and utterly humiliated. Resilience is a good thing, but I am here to enjoy life, not to be a martyr or a sufferer because the fuhrer thinks it is a great idea. I refuse to obey and to toe the line - period.
As to who cares or likes my views - I am not a dollar bill to be liked by everybody. And no, I don't count to be remembered by the grateful posterity for my immortal and brilliant posts on expat.ru.:) Maybe you do, I am not sure, that would be very kvas-like and North Korean - but no need to be nervous, I am not going to compete with you in this respect.

RL , I have always understood your posts but never necessarily agreed with them but on this one mate you are way off your rocker ....I have lived and worked in Russia since 1990.....longer than I have lived elsewhere put together so I believe I am qualified to give my opinion about this great country and its people .You my friend live in a blinkered world of self depreciation and your endeavours are to try to bring everybody else down to your own level of pityness!
I once thought of you as a wise but troubled man , now I see you as a lost soul .....sad!

FatAndy
12-06-2016, 21:26
Vossya, 2 sirius. RL is trolling (almost always)...

TolkoRaz
12-06-2016, 21:43
I think RL is very modest and is understandably ashamed to admit that he lives in a Nevsky Prospekt penthouse and drives a Ferrari to and from his very grand office!

vossy7
12-06-2016, 21:49
Vossya, 2 sirius. RL is trolling (almost always)...

Yes Andy .....got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning and my wife is away looking after her dad who is close to death :crying:

FatAndy
12-06-2016, 21:52
Yes Andy .....got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning and my wife is away looking after her dad who is close to death :crying:
Erhhh, bro, keep up.

Russian Lad
12-06-2016, 22:44
RL , I have always understood your posts but never necessarily agreed with them but on this one mate you are way off your rocker ....I have lived and worked in Russia since 1990.....longer than I have lived elsewhere put together so I believe I am qualified to give my opinion about this great country and its people .You my friend live in a blinkered world of self depreciation and your endeavours are to try to bring everybody else down to your own level of pityness!
I once thought of you as a wise but troubled man , now I see you as a lost soul .....sad!

Well, Vossy, you are welcome to attack my views, no need to attack the personality. Are those Russians who make the statistics for the RF government also irredeemably lost or they may have a point? Germans are also a great nation, but probably there were some Germans back in 1938 who didn't share the overall excitement and the surge of newly found patriotism/national pride. They were a minority, but they turned out to be correct. It happens that majorities are fooled/duped/betrayed/coerced, you name one - always to the detriment of the unsuspecting/naive/delusional majorities. That's what I think about minorities and majorities, briefly.
P.S. Sorry to hear about your family troubles, wish you strength to endure.


I think RL is very modest and is understandably ashamed to admit that he lives in a Nevsky Prospekt penthouse and drives a Ferrari to and from his very grand office!

Am never good at hiding stuff.:( How do you know all that about me? You have my phones tapped or what?:)

Uncle Wally
13-06-2016, 01:01
RL , I have always understood your posts but never necessarily agreed with them but on this one mate you are way off your rocker ....I have lived and worked in Russia since 1990.....longer than I have lived elsewhere put together so I believe I am qualified to give my opinion about this great country and its people .You my friend live in a blinkered world of self depreciation and your endeavours are to try to bring everybody else down to your own level of pityness!
I once thought of you as a wise but troubled man , now I see you as a lost soul .....sad!


I think he wears dresses and frequents rainbow bars. He could be just taking drama lessons.

Uncle Wally
13-06-2016, 01:16
There are at least three more million Russians below the official poverty line this year in comparison with the previous year according to the RF government. So, even your masters seem to disagree with you. I am sure the real numbers are way higher. Please obtain a new metodichka from your supervisors, you are using an old one, which results in a sloppy job here. So, no pelmeshka this time around, sorry.


Even though, Russians are doing much better than they were 16 years ago. Now if America wouldn't be trying to take everyone else down because their scam is coming to an end then we could all be happy.

Russian Lad
13-06-2016, 01:28
Even though, Russians are doing much better than they were 16 years ago. Now if America wouldn't be trying to take everyone else down because their scam is coming to an end then we could all be happy.

Right, and 16 years ago they were doing much better than, say, 74 or 100 years ago. It is simply insane to make those comparisons. Crazy. Loco. Secondly, how can those 23 million Russians below the poverty line do any better (in reality I think this number is 40 million, which is like every fourth Russian - living in abject poverty)? Just because Wally is saying so???


Quote Originally Posted by vossy7 View Post
Yes Andy .....got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning and my wife is away looking after her dad who is close to death

Good time to have a keg party.

See for yourself Vossy whom you are supporting and mind what they write to you.

Judge
13-06-2016, 08:56
Poor RL all alone, fighting his corner,which he does gracefully,I do agree with a lot of what he says, maybe it doesn't always seem that way but I do,life in Russia these past few years has got a lot harder for many, there's no denying that and to say it was much worse 15 years ago isn't a really good argument.The past is the past, to reflect how it was before is making excuses for today's problems.
Same for when RL reminds me that ruble was stronger in 2014 and so on, thats in the past ,gotta look and see what's now, and right now Russia economically is suffering,not all sectors, like I post about but it is in a whole, but there does seem to be growth on the way, which will hopefully make life for many here much easier...

Russian Lad
13-06-2016, 15:10
Poor RL all alone, fighting his corner,which he does gracefully,I do agree with a lot of what he says, maybe it doesn't always seem that way but I do,life in Russia these past few years has got a lot harder for many, there's no denying that and to say it was much worse 15 years ago isn't a really good argument.The past is the past, to reflect how it was before is making excuses for today's problems.
Same for when RL reminds me that ruble was stronger in 2014 and so on, thats in the past ,gotta look and see what's now, and right now Russia economically is suffering,not all sectors, like I post about but it is in a whole, but there does seem to be growth on the way, which will hopefully make life for many here much easier...

I am comparing the dollar-euro-ruble rate with the very recent past - 1-2 years, not with how much it was 16 or 20 years ago, which would be stupid and Wally-like indeed.:smug:
Your "growth on the way" part is fully delusional - the system that is in place is anti-growth, it is medieval and even feudal. It is at least 100 years backward. And I think a high price will be paid for moving forward. Very high - because most Russians don't even realize they are in deep sh't and take sh't for chocolate candies and the urine they get from above into their faces on a daily basis - for the heavenly golden rain. A fatal mistake.

FatAndy
13-06-2016, 15:15
:emote_popcorn:

rumple_stilskin
13-06-2016, 16:23
Has the EU officially raised the while flag yet on this sanctions war?

Russian economy will get gigantic boost when they do. More psychological than from a real effect of sanctions.

Will the EU raise the white flag in 1 month, or will it be in six monyhs.? The Germans are pretty good at raising the white flag to the Russians.

fenrir
13-06-2016, 16:52
The Germans are pretty good at raising the white flag to the Russians.

There's just that little matter of WW I.

Russian Lad
13-06-2016, 19:06
Has the EU officially raised the while flag yet on this sanctions war?

Russian economy will get gigantic boost when they do. More psychological than from a real effect of sanctions.


Russia has already alleviated some of its food sanctions (laughable to begin with), does it mean Russia has raised the white flag? :smug:
http://www.vedomosti.ru/business/articles/2016/06/01/643233-pravitelstvo-oslabilo-sanktsii
The title says Russia has weakened its food embargo for the sake of the children. Does it mean the Russian government, knowingly and in cold blood, hurt the interests (and health) of the social group "Russian children" when it introduced the food sanctions to begin with?
P.S. It seems like the kvas crew is heading towards losing yet another debate. It is getting a bit boring, like kicking around a half-dead horse. Can you win at least one with a solid argument?:)

bydand
13-06-2016, 19:36
Russia has already alleviated some of its food sanctions (laughable to begin with), does it mean Russia has raised the white flag? :smug:
http://www.vedomosti.ru/business/articles/2016/06/01/643233-pravitelstvo-oslabilo-sanktsii
The title says Russia has weakened its food embargo for the sake of the children. Does it mean the Russian government, knowingly and in cold blood, hurt the interests (and health) of the social group "Russian children" when it introduced the food sanctions to begin with?
P.S. It seems like the kvas crew is heading towards losing yet another debate. It is getting a bit boring, like kicking around a half-dead horse. Can you win at least one with a solid argument?:)

Could it be, some of the gravy sucking pigs have a place in their heart for children not their own? How altruistic!

Russian Lad
13-06-2016, 19:45
Could it be, some of the gravy sucking pigs have a place in their heart for children not their own?

Most of their children are in France, the GB and the US anyway. And I bet those who stick around here hate every day of it and despise their parent pigs for not sucking the gravy properly to ensure their kosher life in the West. The bitter irony of it. The majority of the social group "Russian population" have been fooled, robbed and ridiculed it seems.
Anyway, I have a new signature. Enjoy.:) This girl liked riding in my red Ferrari, by the way. The time was ripe to remove Rusmeister's "wisdom" from the prime spotlight.:)

Uncle Wally
13-06-2016, 21:14
I am comparing the dollar-euro-ruble rate with the very recent past - 1-2 years, not with how much it was 16 or 20 years ago, which would be stupid and Wally-like indeed.:smug:
Your "growth on the way" part is fully delusional - the system that is in place is anti-growth, it is medieval and even feudal. It is at least 100 years backward. And I think a high price will be paid for moving forward. Very high - because most Russians don't even realize they are in deep sh't and take sh't for chocolate candies and the urine they get from above into their faces on a daily basis - for the heavenly golden rain. A fatal mistake.


You talk about not getting "personal"?


Let's go way back to 1913. In 1913 a bottle of coke cost 5 cents. How much does it cost now? Why does it cost a dollar now? You seem to focus on the wrong things. Like gold is not more expensive it's just the dollar is worth less. Coke is not more expensive it's just the dollar is worth less. Someday the dollar will be worthless when the banks figure out how they can do that without losing wealth. Because wealth is not how many paper dollars you have but how much real things you own. Like land, homes, gold and silver. Things people want or need. Pieces of paper with dead people on them is a fools endeavor.

fenrir
13-06-2016, 21:34
You talk about not getting "personal"?


Let's go way back to 1913. In 1913 a bottle of coke cost 5 cents. How much does it cost now? Why does it cost a dollar now? You seem to focus on the wrong things. Like gold is not more expensive it's just the dollar is worth less. Coke is not more expensive it's just the dollar is worth less. Someday the dollar will be worthless when the banks figure out how they can do that without losing wealth. Because wealth is not how many paper dollars you have but how much real things you own. Like land, homes, gold and silver. Things people want or need. Pieces of paper with dead people on them is a fools endeavor.

It isn't much of a mystery that the people who say such stupid things also tend to be people who don't own very much.

Russian Lad
13-06-2016, 21:45
It isn't much of a mystery that the people who say such stupid things also tend to be people who don't own very much.

I am sure it is a mere coincidence. Also, it is the fault of evil American bankers and the US of A in general.:smug: Hey, Wally, your BS doesn't seem to be related to what I said in any way. Try to concentrate, comrade. No pelmeshka again. I don't mean you to go starving, but you gotta deliver to earn the food.

Uncle Wally
13-06-2016, 22:07
I am sure it is a mere coincidence. Also, it is the fault of evil American bankers and the US of A in general.:smug: Hey, Wally, your BS doesn't seem to be related to what I said in any way. Try to concentrate, comrade. No pelmeshka again. I don't mean you to go starving, but you gotta deliver to earn the food.


It's because you have no clue to what is really going on. You want to make a narrative that suits your own agenda and when people do go along you get mad.

Uncle Wally
13-06-2016, 22:10
It isn't much of a mystery that the people who say such stupid things also tend to be people who don't own very much.

Why haven't you been banned? There is a lot of talk about "personal attacks" but yet you keep making them. Is it the mods are overworked?

Russian Lad
13-06-2016, 22:20
when people do go along you get mad

Do or do not? I suggest again you become focused, Wally. It is crucial if you want to come into possession of the coveted pelmeshka. Put that glass of vodka away and try to conentrate or you will have to drink it without zakuska, which, in turn, will prove to be highly disagreeable to your stomach. :smug:

Uncle Wally
13-06-2016, 22:25
Do or do not? I suggest again you become focused, Wally. It is crucial if you want to come into possession of the coveted pelmeshka.:smug:

Trying very hard not to get personal I will say you don't know what is real. Is it me who needs to focus or you? That is the question you need to be asking yourself.

fenrir
17-06-2016, 17:05
Well, well, well. Look what happened.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/eu-extends-sanctions-against-russia-over-crimea-130329972.html?ref=gs

FatAndy
17-06-2016, 17:30
Well, well, well. Look what happened.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/eu-extends-sanctions-against-russia-over-crimea-130329972.html?ref=gs

Everything for you, comrade - continue enjoying cheapo dairy products and cider ;)

Uncle Wally
17-06-2016, 17:41
Well, well, well. Look what happened.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/eu-extends-sanctions-against-russia-over-crimea-130329972.html?ref=gs


Poor Europeans. I hope they can survive this.

FatAndy
17-06-2016, 17:49
:emote_popcorn:

Judge
17-06-2016, 18:09
Everything for you, comrade - continue enjoying cheapo dairy products and cider ;)

These sanctions are only for Crimea, for tourist agencies not to deal with Crimea,etc. ,the other sanctions on Russia expire in a few weeks, they will most likely be renewed for another 6 months.

FatAndy
17-06-2016, 18:18
These sanctions are only for Crimea, for tourist agencies not to deal with Crimea,etc. ,the other sanctions on Russia expire in a few weeks, they will most likely be renewed for another 6 months.
Does anybody really care? Let EU chipmunks inflate cheeks, the only fun for them :)

bydand
17-06-2016, 18:18
Because wealth is not how many paper dollars you have but how much real things you own. Like land, homes, gold and silver. Things people want or need. Pieces of paper with dead people on them is a fools endeavor.

Can't take any of it with you, when you go Wally. I thought you thought it is love that matters. What happens to that when you go? People who miss you matter; or not?

Uncle Wally
17-06-2016, 18:52
Can't take any of it with you, when you go Wally. I thought you thought it is love that matters. What happens to that when you go? People who miss you matter; or not?



I don't own much and don't want to.

Russian Lad
17-06-2016, 19:49
I don't own much and don't want to.

As they say, Wally, life is a b'tch, but it is more cozy to shed tears in a Mercedes than in a Lada.:)

FatAndy
17-06-2016, 20:38
As they say, Wally, life is a b'tch, but it is more cozy to shed tears in a Mercedes than in a Lada.:)
I was drinking in both, no difference. But Lada was with aircon. :rasta:

fenrir
17-06-2016, 21:05
The news today is getting better and better!!!

Putin says accepts U.S. is sole superpower, dilutes Trump praise

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-says-russia-whoever-elected-u-president-132220132.html

FatAndy
17-06-2016, 21:11
Fen, did you ever try to learn how to distinguish sarcasm? ;)

Uncle Wally
17-06-2016, 21:13
As they say, Wally, life is a b'tch, but it is more cozy to shed tears in a Mercedes than in a Lada.:)





You can also do that on the bus or metro. At least there you have someone who may sympathize with you .

FatAndy
17-06-2016, 21:17
You can also do that on the bus or metro. At least there you have someone who may sympathize with you .
Don't think there are buses and metro in a ghetto... :) but I may sympathise RL remotely, from my southern village.

bydand
17-06-2016, 21:18
I don't own much and don't want to.

You don't own anything.
Neither do I.

Except on paper. Read it and weep.

Uncle Wally
17-06-2016, 21:24
The news today is getting better and better!!!

Putin says accepts U.S. is sole superpower, dilutes Trump praise

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-says-russia-whoever-elected-u-president-132220132.html



Doesn't take much to make your day does it ? Wow what a great this must be for you! Russians will have to live through sanctions for another year and Russians will suffer. To top it all off Putin says the US is the worlds only super power! Wow too bad no Russians died today huh?

Uncle Wally
17-06-2016, 21:28
You don't own anything.
Neither do I.

Except on paper. Read it and weep.


Yeah but not for the same reasons. I think quite the opposite reasons. Lot easier keeping it from the gravy sucking pigs I think you called them?

Russian Lad
18-06-2016, 07:17
The latest developments tell me one thing - in fact, they scream at me - the Towers are running out of cash at the speed of a lightning.:smug: It bodes an exciting autumn.

Uncle Wally
18-06-2016, 09:10
The latest developments tell me one thing - in fact, they scream at me - the Towers are running out of cash at the speed of a lightning.:smug: It bodes an exciting autumn.


You heard that German bonds are now at zero right? You also heard that countries are dumping their US bonds I suppose.

Judge
18-06-2016, 09:11
Very clever by the Americans, pressure the EU to put sanctions on Russia and then become an even bigger trading partner to Russia than the EU,



While EU members bear the brunt of the “trade war” - sanctions and counter-sanctions have cut the bloc’s bilateral trade with Russia by an estimated 100 billion euros ($112 billion) – the US has leapfrogged many of Moscow’s former partners to become its No. 5 trading ally outside the former Soviet Union, according to Bloomberg.


Also it seems Boeing still has a big interest in Skolkovo,


Boeing, whose design bureau in Moscow is its largest outside the US, this month opened a training and research center at the government-backed Skolkovo technology park

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20160617/1041499340/us-eu-russia-business.html#ixzz4BuOayXdI

Russian Lad
18-06-2016, 09:25
Very clever by the Americans, pressure the EU to put sanctions

It is yet another myth engineered by the Towers. I would not be pressured by anyone to call the cops if someone was breaking into my apartment, if you know what I mean. :smug:

Judge
18-06-2016, 09:32
It is yet another myth engineered by the Towers. I would not be pressured by anyone to call the cops if someone was breaking into my apartment, if you know what I mean. :smug:

Why myth, I've posted many times before, link after link with concrete evidence of direct pressure from the US, which you have commented on saying,something like, great, America's got this great power to influence, how strong they are and so on,so no myth...

Russian Lad
18-06-2016, 09:36
which you have commented on saying,something like, great, America's got this great power to influence

Maybe you didn't notice it, but I was actually joking. The interests of the EU and the US are the same, they work in a perfect duo. Russia seems to work in a perfect duo only with Kazakhstan. And you know what I think? Kazakhstan will regret it bitterly, give it 3-4 years.:) There is also Armenia, of course. But you would probably need like 20 stans to compete with the US alone.:) The game is lost and you know it.

Judge
18-06-2016, 10:07
Maybe you didn't notice it, but I was actually joking. The interests of the EU and the US are the same, they work in a perfect duo. Russia seems to work in a perfect duo only with Kazakhstan. And you know what I think? Kazakhstan will regret it bitterly, give it 3-4 years.:) There is also Armenia, of course. But you would probably need like 20 stans to compete with the US alone.:) The game is lost and you know it.

It's hard to get Russian humour even when it's face to face, online even harder. .

The game, this is the great game ,which has been going for years and will still be going on long after me and you are gone, hopefully we won't see the end game which will be nuclear war.

Uncle Wally
18-06-2016, 10:23
Maybe you didn't notice it, but I was actually joking. The interests of the EU and the US are the same, they work in a perfect duo. Russia seems to work in a perfect duo only with Kazakhstan. And you know what I think? Kazakhstan will regret it bitterly, give it 3-4 years.:) There is also Armenia, of course. But you would probably need like 20 stans to compete with the US alone.:) The game is lost and you know it.



You make very bad jokes. The EU has totally different interests than America. Maybe you haven't noticed but many from the EU have said the sanctions should be dropped. It's a few people in the pockets of the banksters that keeps them going.

Example, the EU used to export 740,000 tons of pork, now they export zero. Brazil on the other hand now exports 300,000 tons more pork and Russian pig farmers expanding pork production.

Russian Lad
18-06-2016, 10:46
The game, this is the great game ,which has been going for years and will still be going on long after me and you are gone, hopefully we won't see the end game which will be nuclear war.

The end game is not necessarily the nuclear war.:) You think I am scared of nukes?:) I am not, neither is the West. Even the Turks don't seem to give a damn.


The EU has totally different interests than America.

Tactically in some areas - maybe. Strategically they are the same, geopolitically - 100% the same. But it is a secret, Wally, don't tell anyone, especially those who watch Rossiya24 and RT. They don't need and don't deserve to know.:)

Carl
18-06-2016, 16:05
hopefully we won't see the end game which will be nuclear war.

Judge, you obviously have not been listening to Willy.. The troops are marching as we type. War is on the way!! :scared:

FatAndy
18-06-2016, 18:22
hopefully we won't see the end game which will be nuclear war.
There is the funny simulator: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/


The troops are marching as we type. War is on the way!! :scared:
Not only marching, knight - http://dyn.function.mil.ru/news_page/country.htm?objInBlock=25&fid=0&blk=10322350
How much time those funny people mentioned for "European countries" - 60 hours? :)

Uncle Wally
19-06-2016, 00:06
Judge, you obviously have not been listening to Willy.. The troops are marching as we type. War is on the way!! :scared:


You obviously haven't been reading the news. 40,000 NATO troops on Russia's boarder. NATO trying to put a permanent navy in the Black Sea and US politicians saying forget ISIS "we should sent in troops to take out Assad"

Russian Lad
19-06-2016, 07:22
You obviously haven't been reading the news. 40,000 NATO troops on Russia's boarder. NATO trying to put a permanent navy in the Black Sea and US politicians saying forget ISIS "we should sent in troops to take out Assad"

Wally, I don't understand. According to your predictions, the US and the EU currencies should have collapsed by now, together with their economies and, of course, the military. Instead, they all seem to be in their utmost form and only Russia seems to be a weak element in this equation. Even the Turks seem to be picking at us with utmost impunity and are not afraid at all. Something has gone terribly wrong in your predictions. All your kvas has either been spilled or turned into froth - there is nothing a parch-lipped Russian like me can drink from your divine source of truthъ anymore. You have betrayed the hopes and aspirations of many gullible Russian kvas patriots. Do you understand you lost any credibility a long time ago?:smug:

Uncle Wally
19-06-2016, 07:48
Wally, I don't understand. According to your predictions, the US and the EU currencies should have collapsed by now, together with their economies and, of course, the military. Instead, they all seem to be in their utmost form and only Russia seems to be a weak element in this equation. Even the Turks seem to be picking at us with utmost impunity and are not afraid at all. Something has gone terribly wrong in your predictions. All your kvas has either been spilled or turned into froth - there is nothing a parch-lipped Russian like me can drink from your divine source of truthъ anymore. You have betrayed the hopes and aspirations of many gullible Russian kvas patriots. Do you understand you lost any credibility a long time ago?:smug:


Not only mine but many people are saying it. German bonds at 0% and US bonds close to zero, Wall Street is a big bubble and the US with 20 trillion dollars in debt not to mention the private debt. How they going to pay that off? China has been dumping US treasury as many others are. America is a fraud and everyone knows it they are just afraid of what happens when the US defaults.

Judge
19-06-2016, 08:44
The end game is not necessarily the nuclear war.:) You think I am scared of nukes?:) I am not, neither is the West. Even the Turks don't seem to give a damn.


You now speak for millions in the west, Ok :smile:, Even the German forigen minister seems concerned with NATO's warmongering. ..
Regarding Turkey, you should be thankful there is a rational leader in the Kremlin.The Turks give a damn about their jobs.

Turkey tourism: an industry in crisis - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36549880

Judge
19-06-2016, 09:19
Example, the EU used to export 740,000 tons of pork, now they export zero. Brazil on the other hand now exports 300,000 tons more pork and Russian pig farmers expanding pork production.

Some on here might start gloating (even in the EU) now they can buy cheap pork in the EU, that's what they did when prices for other products crashed after Russia put on sanctions and the EU was flooded with food they couldn't sell, but the gloating soon stopped when companies started laying off workers and even factories closed down.
Let these people gloat to the pig farmers of the EU, I'm sure they will be welcomed with open arms,

Cheap imports force UK pig farmers out of business,from the UK to Germany.

http://gu.com/p/4fq2v?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_ColorNote
http://m.thepigsite.com/news/39699
The gloating,
https://www.rt.com/business/345034-valio-plant-closure-sanctions/

Russian Lad
19-06-2016, 09:50
You now speak for millions in the west, Ok

It seems so to me, by and large, of course I am not ready to speak on behalf of the West. I think the answer is simple - they are not afraid of the North Korean siber-rattling either and they efficiently neutralized even a way more formidable siber-rattling of the USSR - they have plenty of experience. Or you think they are? They see a danger and take measures, it seems to be a routine work, no time for getting scared. It is only bringing the Russian economy to its knees faster and more efficiently because, for instance, no investor in his right mind would want to invest into a hostile, siber-rattling country like the North Korea or Russia. The USSR had a far superior military, it was no use when the economy crashed. You don't seem to be getting this simple fact somehow. Why? Just because this new system is called capitalism (which is not capitalism per se anyway - it is an entirely feudal economy based on the vassal principles or an oligopoly at best, stuck with its underlying (and pseudo-moral "staples") principles somewhere in the end of the 19th century) it doesn't really mean it is sustainable and immune from significant downfalls that, if certain factors combine, may prove to be nothing short of catastrophic. You opt to ignore the alarm bells, but they are tolling nonetheless. The dangers are real, the hazards - unprecedented. And the kvas crew ignorance and arrogance only precipitate the showdown.
It is a weird blend of tzarism+sovietism+feudalism+oligopoly, a totally Orwellian construct that is bound to fail, imho. Time will show. Orwell's 1984 was a joke in comparison with the latest developments, I would say. He was a dabbling amateur.

FatAndy
19-06-2016, 10:36
:emote_popcorn:

Uncle Wally
19-06-2016, 10:52
It seems so to me, by and large, of course I am not ready to speak on behalf of the West. I think the answer is simple - they are not afraid of the North Korean siber-rattling either and they efficiently neutralized even a way more formidable siber-rattling of the USSR - they have plenty of experience. Or you think they are? They see a danger and take measures, it seems to be a routine work, no time for getting scared. It is only bringing the Russian economy to its knees faster and more efficiently because, for instance, no investor in his right mind would want to invest into a hostile, siber-rattling country like the North Korea or Russia. The USSR had a far superior military, it was no use when the economy crashed. You don't seem to be getting this simple fact somehow. Why? Just because this new system is called capitalism (which is not capitalism per se anyway - it is an entirely feudal economy based on the vassal principles or an oligopoly at best, stuck with its underlying (and pseudo-moral "staples") principles somewhere in the end of the 19th century) it doesn't really mean it is sustainable and immune from significant downfalls that, if certain factors combine, may prove to be nothing short of catastrophic. You opt to ignore the alarm bells, but they are tolling nonetheless. The dangers are real, the hazards - unprecedented. And the kvas crew ignorance and arrogance only precipitate the showdown.
It is a weird blend of tzarism+sovietism+feudalism+oligopoly, a totally Orwellian construct that is bound to fail, imho. Time will show. Orwell's 1984 was a joke in comparison with the latest developments, I would say. He was a dabbling amateur.

Orwell? 1984? America seems closer to that than Russia is.


You really think that nobody is investing in Russia? You must not have paid attention to the economic forum that went on in you own city. I think it was something like 15 billion dollars in new investments for Russia. I don't know how you could of missed that?

fenrir
19-06-2016, 11:19
Orwell? 1984? America seems closer to that than Russia is.

Really? With all the things you can say or post on the Internet in Russia that can get you thrown in prison?

fenrir
19-06-2016, 11:24
You really think that nobody is investing in Russia? You must not have paid attention to the economic forum that went on in you own city. I think it was something like 15 billion dollars in new investments for Russia. I don't know how you could of missed that?

15 billion dollars is chump change for such a large country. FDI in Estonia at the end of last year totaled 17.4 billion euros to give you some perspective.

Carl
19-06-2016, 12:55
Orwell? 1984? America seems closer to that than Russia is.


You really think that nobody is investing in Russia? You must not have paid attention to the economic forum that went on in you own city. I think it was something like 15 billion dollars in new investments for Russia. I don't know how you could of missed that?

How much did you invest Willy?

Uncle Wally
19-06-2016, 14:10
Really? With all the things you can say or post on the Internet in Russia that can get you thrown in prison?


Funny how you, Russian Lad and the rest of you Russophobes are not in prison yet then.

In Russia we don't have "Enhanced Interrogation" (torture) "Prolonged Detention" (imprisonment without charge or trial with no end) "Collateral Damage" (killing of innocent people in war time or by illegal drone strikes) Endless war, and mass collection of data and 95% of all terrorist caught being entrapped by the FBI and 100% of the mass shooters being first visited by the FBI but still being able to carry out the attack. You know after 9/11 not one person was fired and none have been fired since although US security services have failed time and time again.

Russian Lad
19-06-2016, 17:45
Funny how you, Russian Lad and the rest of you Russophobes are not in prison yet then.

I am not a russophobe, I wish well for my country, the current policies are clearly damaging it. As to the prison - I am very careful in what I post - but sue me, let's see who wins in court.:) You may end up going to jail yourself - for instance, you repeatedly question and disparage and undermine the official Russian statistics and the numbers provided by the Russian government - even I don't go as far as that. You are a rather subversive element implanted into the body of poor mother Russia, Wally. I would investigate who implanted you here and for what purpose. Where do you hide the microfilm, Wally?:smug:


In Russia we

Since when it is "we", Wally? You have the Russian citizenship? Shagging Russian women and drinking vodka every day doesn't make you Russian, Wally. Bet you don't even know my language well enough. You can bypass that only if you learn to play balalaika properly.

fenrir
19-06-2016, 18:12
Funny how you, Russian Lad and the rest of you Russophobes are not in prison yet then.

In Russia we don't have "Enhanced Interrogation" (torture) "Prolonged Detention" (imprisonment without charge or trial with no end) "Collateral Damage" (killing of innocent people in war time or by illegal drone strikes) Endless war, and mass collection of data and 95% of all terrorist caught being entrapped by the FBI and 100% of the mass shooters being first visited by the FBI but still being able to carry out the attack. You know after 9/11 not one person was fired and none have been fired since although US security services have failed time and time again.

RL is careful about what he says and I don't live in Russia, so no dice.

The rest of your post is hilarious.

No torture? Champagne bottles up the kazoo anyone? Then there is what happens to suspected Islamists in Southern Russia (disappearances, torture, mysterious deaths - check out the international human rights reports).

The US doesn't have rigged trials like Russia does. You conveniently forget news stories such as the Russian judge who was sleeping through a trial then suddenly wakes up and pronounces a guilty verdict. It's SNL material.

Collateral damage? Look at all those bombed hospitals and markets in Syria, plus all the destruction Russia caused in Eastern Ukraine.

Mass collection of data and blah, blah, blah? Start posting messages on local social media about how the Crimea should be given back to Ukraine and how wrong Russia is for starting an illegal war and you will see who is collecting data when there is a knock on your door.

Thanks for the good laugh, Wally!

FatAndy
19-06-2016, 18:37
Look at all those bombed hospitals and markets in Syria
...reported by poposition intellectual, sitting in UK? :D Yes, we'll continue to bomb defenseless American money there.


plus all the destruction Russia caused in Eastern Ukraine.
:) Change metodichka, comrade, or write the angry claim to Essssstoooonniannnn poooosttttt for the delay of delivery from DoS.

Would Russia operate there, there would be no destruction, only flat dusty surface on the depth of couple meters.

That's the reason, btw, why coward banderlogs and brave Ukroworriors brilliantly trained by even more brave Americans and UkroCanadians, afraid to attack Krym - in contrary with Donbаss there INDEED are Russian troops. :)


Start posting messages on local social media about how the Crimea should be given back
Krym is already given back, now the question is about money.


FDI in Estonia at the end of last year totaled 17.4 billion euros to give you some perspective.
EU aid was 1/4 of the budget or 1/3? :)

Russian Lad
19-06-2016, 23:59
Have just been watching Soloviev's tv-show for 5 minutes. Can someone give me back these five minutes of my life? This is pure intellectual vomit and poison, what they broadcast these days. Utterly disgusting. They blame the EU and the US for everything as usual. It has been stated that the US invented concentration camps for the Indians and that, together with the EU, the US is to blame for everything bad in Russia. Basically, that the Russians are saints in blood and flesh. I think at this point even the North Koreans are watching and taking notes for further reference. What is a shame though - this country has no future with this. It is worse than the 19th century - I think we are already in the 15th century. Where can I buy лапти? :smug:

Uncle Wally
20-06-2016, 00:34
RL is careful about what he says and I don't live in Russia, so no dice.

The rest of your post is hilarious.

No torture? Champagne bottles up the kazoo anyone? Then there is what happens to suspected Islamists in Southern Russia (disappearances, torture, mysterious deaths - check out the international human rights reports).

The US doesn't have rigged trials like Russia does. You conveniently forget news stories such as the Russian judge who was sleeping through a trial then suddenly wakes up and pronounces a guilty verdict. It's SNL material.

Collateral damage? Look at all those bombed hospitals and markets in Syria, plus all the destruction Russia caused in Eastern Ukraine.

Mass collection of data and blah, blah, blah? Start posting messages on local social media about how the Crimea should be given back to Ukraine and how wrong Russia is for starting an illegal war and you will see who is collecting data when there is a knock on your door.

Thanks for the good laugh, Wally!


No the US has rigged elections, and if you understood the slightest thing about Americas courts or should I say plea bargin system because the prosecutor do not want to lose. It doesn't matter about justice it's winning in court that counts. They could care less if you are guilty or not. They will pile so many charges on you and threaten you with a long prison term so it's easier for you to make a plea. You don't go to jail, they look like they won and you an innocent person now have a record but what do they care? It's not about justice it's about winning. How many people have been found not guilty of murder 10, 20 or even 30 years after they have been railroaded for crimes they didn't commit? Thousands! I think about all the innocent people who must have been put to death by your beloved system. Another great thing about the American justice system is the asset forfeiture laws. Cops can stop you for little or no reason and demand to illegally search your car and any cash they find will be confiscated and held until you can prove that your money was not attended for illegal activities. Police all over America are allowed to commit highway robbery and 99% of the time get away with it because their victims are from out of state or just too poor to afford a lawyer. What are you paying taxes for if your government has privatized every basic service? Jesus if you get a traffic ticket it is then sold to a private collection agency who will tack on interest and if you can't pay you are sent to a private parole officer who charges you money for their services! They can then send you to a private prison and make you work and pay for you incarnation all the while charging the state $30,000 a year to enslave you. God do you even understand how many people die in US prisons every year not to mention rape and beatings! There is over 2 million people in prison in America at any given time and 10s of millions of people on parole! More than any other nation on earth. I would bet there are more people in prison in America than Russia and China combined! Justice? From a country that supports terrorist? A country that has been at war for the last 15 years with no end in sight? A country who keeps their people in fear and threatens the rest of the world? What a great scam, a war on terrorist. Just like the war on drugs, never-ending specially if you have secret agents working with drug dealers and growers. I guess you never heard of Mena Arkansas? Iran-Contra? You ever hear of Pat Tillman the NFL player who joined the army and wound up being murdered by his own in Afghanistan because he realized it was just a poppy protection mission he was on and had nothing to do with terrorist and keeping America safe? You have been being played for a fool hard since America murdered 3000 people on 9/11 to push their one world government and give them a license to kill anyone, anywhere for anything.

Uncle Wally
20-06-2016, 00:57
I would like to address "look at all those bombed hospitals and markets in Syria"


Where is the proof? Where are the hospitals for that matter? The only hospital that was bombed that has 100% proof was in Afghanistan and was bombed by the USofA. The US government saying "Russia bombed a hospital in Syria but not saying actually where the hospital was is not proof! Proof is a photo or a video or skid marks on your underwear. Someone saying something is not proof of anything but their desire to defame someone else. Just like MH17 where John Kerry said "We know who and where the people are that shot down MH17 but we can show you how we know because that's top secret" Jesus Christ what kind of world would we live in if that's all the government had to do! You babble a lot Fenrir but have nothing of substance, nothing but my government said so. Come on Fenrir prove to us Russia bombs hospitals and markets. Prove to us that America is even trying to fight terrorist anywhere in the world and not just creating them to keep people if fear so the can take control and make money on endless war. A war on terrorism. Please tell us Fenrir what the word terrorism means and how we can have a war on it.

Uncle Wally
20-06-2016, 01:08
Have just been watching Soloviev's tv-show for 5 minutes. Can someone give me back these five minutes of my life? This is pure intellectual vomit and poison, what they broadcast these days. Utterly disgusting. They blame the EU and the US for everything as usual. It has been stated that the US invented concentration camps for the Indians and that, together with the EU, the US is to blame for everything bad in Russia. Basically, that the Russians are saints in blood and flesh. I think at this point even the North Koreans are watching and taking notes for further reference. What is a shame though - this country has no future with this. It is worse than the 19th century - I think we are already in the 15th century. Where can I buy лапти? :smug:


Um well the US did put native Americans in concentration camps after forced marching them hundreds of miles and when they got there gave them blankets infected with yellow fever which I think was more of a death camp. The American concentration camp was in the south and they called it slavery.

FatAndy
20-06-2016, 09:20
Um well the US did put native Americans in concentration camps after forced marching them hundreds of miles and when they got there gave them blankets infected with yellow fever which I think was more of a death camp. The American concentration camp was in the south and they called it slavery.
Yellow fever isn't transferable by blankets. Don't you mix with smallpox?


Have just been watching Soloviev's tv-show for 5 minutes. Can someone give me back these five minutes of my life? This is pure intellectual vomit and poison, what they broadcast these days. Utterly disgusting.
Write the abuse claim to UN, PACE, World league of sexual reforms and Sportlotto.


Basically, that the Russians are saints in blood and flesh.
Well, here he's not right at all. We're gods.


Where can I buy лапти? :smug:
Strange question, comrade. Again it's the reason to leave your ghetto for a while and walk to the center of SPb, tourist souvenirs shop is your destination.

bydand
20-06-2016, 12:51
Economic situation in Russia?



You need to look around. There are too many dying villages with empty homes.

Uncle Wally
20-06-2016, 12:56
Economic situation in Russia?


Yes while the cities are growing. When was the last time you were in Moscow?

fenrir
20-06-2016, 13:21
I would like to address "look at all those bombed hospitals and markets in Syria"


Where is the proof? Where are the hospitals for that matter? The only hospital that was bombed that has 100% proof was in Afghanistan and was bombed by the USofA. The US government saying "Russia bombed a hospital in Syria but not saying actually where the hospital was is not proof! Proof is a photo or a video or skid marks on your underwear. Someone saying something is not proof of anything but their desire to defame someone else. Just like MH17 where John Kerry said "We know who and where the people are that shot down MH17 but we can show you how we know because that's top secret" Jesus Christ what kind of world would we live in if that's all the government had to do! You babble a lot Fenrir but have nothing of substance, nothing but my government said so. Come on Fenrir prove to us Russia bombs hospitals and markets. Prove to us that America is even trying to fight terrorist anywhere in the world and not just creating them to keep people if fear so the can take control and make money on endless war. A war on terrorism. Please tell us Fenrir what the word terrorism means and how we can have a war on it.

I'll provide proof to you as soon as you go back to all your previous comments where your proof was 'someone said', 'I heard', 'I read somewhere,' etc and provide real evidence.

bydand
20-06-2016, 13:42
Yes while the cities are growing. When was the last time you were in Moscow?

When I was in Moscow last, would be irrelevant and anecdotal. Where is your proof of growth. Growth of wealth, people, both, or something else?

You think cities growing (if true), and villages/small cities dying, is a good economy?

Uncle Wally
20-06-2016, 15:31
When I was in Moscow last, would be irrelevant and anecdotal. Where is your proof of growth. Growth of wealth, people, both, or something else?

You think cities growing (if true), and villages/small cities dying, is a good economy?


It's been going on for many years now. Young people leave the village to find work in cities and the only people left are old people that die off.

Uncle Wally
20-06-2016, 15:35
I'll provide proof to you as soon as you go back to all your previous comments where your proof was 'someone said', 'I heard', 'I read somewhere,' etc and provide real evidence.


I wasn't talking about you I was taking about the US state department. You don't find it the least bit funny that 9/11 was solved in three hours? Or any other terrorist act? Solved within hours and perp shot dead so he can never speak. Too easy.

fenrir
20-06-2016, 15:44
It's been going on for many years now. Young people leave the village to find work in cities and the only people left are old people that die off.

That's called urbanization and it's most pronounced these days in poorer countries.

bydand
20-06-2016, 16:12
It's been going on for many years now. Young people leave the village to find work in cities and the only people left are old people that die off.

You think that makes for a good economy? I think I'll live longer here, than you will in Moscow.

Five major problems with urbanization.

http://www.ehow.com/info_10056161_5-major-problems-urbanization.html

Urbanization leads to a deficit in jobs.

Adds to air pollution, Suspended particulates in the air come from motor vehicle fuel combustion. Soot, dust, lead and smoke make up the particulates. They pose a serious threat to health.

City growth destroys natural areas flowing with new and endangered animal and plant life. No matter how small, each species plays an important role in how the Earth works.

City growth destroys natural areas flowing with new and endangered animal and plant life. No matter how small, each species plays an important role in how the Earth works.

Rapid urbanization affects crime rates. Residents of different beliefs and behaviors thrown together suddenly do not have time to adjust or adapt to different viewpoints, leading to violence.




I'm sure you'll tell us its bad for America; and its happening in Russia because of America.
Just turn a patriot's blind eye to it all, the economy here will soon be booming; right?

FatAndy
20-06-2016, 17:50
:emote_popcorn:

Uncle Wally
20-06-2016, 23:34
You think that makes for a good economy? I think I'll live longer here, than you will in Moscow.

Five major problems with urbanization.

http://www.ehow.com/info_10056161_5-major-problems-urbanization.html

Urbanization leads to a deficit in jobs.

Adds to air pollution, Suspended particulates in the air come from motor vehicle fuel combustion. Soot, dust, lead and smoke make up the particulates. They pose a serious threat to health.

City growth destroys natural areas flowing with new and endangered animal and plant life. No matter how small, each species plays an important role in how the Earth works.

City growth destroys natural areas flowing with new and endangered animal and plant life. No matter how small, each species plays an important role in how the Earth works.

Rapid urbanization affects crime rates. Residents of different beliefs and behaviors thrown together suddenly do not have time to adjust or adapt to different viewpoints, leading to violence.




I'm sure you'll tell us its bad for America; and its happening in Russia because of America.
Just turn a patriot's blind eye to it all, the economy here will soon be booming; right?

You have already lived longer than me but maybe not as much and most likely not as happily.

Uncle Wally
21-06-2016, 00:40
That's called urbanization and it's most pronounced these days in poorer countries.

So is exodus from small countries that have to invite to richer (criminal) countries to station army personal in their country to make up for the lack of tourism because most of their population have to leave to find good paying jobs working as nannies. Hence why you have any income at all.

fenrir
21-06-2016, 10:16
So is exodus from small countries that have to invite to richer (criminal) countries to station army personal in their country to make up for the lack of tourism because most of their population have to leave to find good paying jobs working as nannies. Hence why you have any income at all.

Ha, ha, ha! Posting while drunk again! Big mistake. You make no sense and talk nonsense as usual.

Uncle Wally
21-06-2016, 11:48
Ha, ha, ha! Posting while drunk again! Big mistake. You make no sense and talk nonsense as usual.


Well tell me when you're not drunk and I will try to post it again in a more simple way so you can understand.

bydand
21-06-2016, 12:05
You have already lived longer than me but maybe not as much and most likely not as happily.

How does this relate to my questions, or the Russian economy?:question:

Uncle Wally
21-06-2016, 12:59
How does this relate to my questions, or the Russian economy?:question:


Ok, you think in western terms which is far off the way Russia and the USSR works. I myself don't think the western mass consumption, planned obsolescence, throw away society is something to hold up as a good model for sustained human life. Maybe for scum sucking gravy lickers but not for humanity.

bydand
21-06-2016, 14:27
Ok, you think in western terms which is far off the way Russia and the USSR works. I myself don't think the western mass consumption, planned obsolescence, throw away society is something to hold up as a good model for sustained human life. Maybe for scum sucking gravy lickers but not for humanity.

Its foolish to assume you know what I think, and truly sad you compare your happiness to anyone else.

No, mass consumption and planned obsolescence are not good. Fact is, it happens in Russia also. I see it every spring when they "fix" the roads here improperly, so they have to be fixed every year. Keep that Gravy Train going!:hooray:

Uncle Wally
21-06-2016, 21:24
So it seems the Rosneft has sign deals worth 45 billion dollars in St. Pete. Add this to the 15 billion dollars and it comes out to 60 billion dollars worth of investment! Not bad for a country that is being so "isolated". I wonder how much people would invest if America didn't bully the whole world about Russia?

FatAndy
22-06-2016, 09:49
Chill down, hot guys :rasta: Continue about RF economy, torn into pieces ©.

bydand
22-06-2016, 22:28
So... is a plastic bag manufacturing (not just buy from China and sell) company providing jobs for Russians, good for the Russian economy, or not?

Uncle Wally
22-06-2016, 23:39
So... is a plastic bag manufacturing (not just buy from China and sell) company providing jobs for Russians, good for the Russian economy, or not?


You live in your own little world. I met with a very hot woman who works for a French drug company today. She talked about how companies are try to bring their manufacturing to Russia to cut cost and get around sanctions. It's easy to yell about gravy and buying from China it's something harder to change your way of thinking.

Russian Lad
23-06-2016, 03:05
So... is a plastic bag manufacturing (not just buy from China and sell) company providing jobs for Russians, good for the Russian economy, or not?


You live in your own little world. I met with a very hot woman who works for a French drug company today. She talked about how companies are try to bring their manufacturing to Russia to cut cost and get around sanctions. It's easy to yell about gravy and buying from China it's something harder to change your way of thinking.

I have a friend who is involved in buying and selling stuff from China. Suppose, a French/Chinese company brings its production to Russia. His business is ruined, he is jobless. But he will find a new job in this French/Chinese company here in Russia, will probably earn the same amount of cash. Nothing has changed for him, except that this company pays taxes maybe (but most of them end up in some Panama offshores) and there is more pollution in Russia. So, I am rather sceptical even if investments do pour into Russia in large quantities (it is not like it looks this way though). If there was an upsurge in investments, there would be an upsurge in the demand for translators, right? I am not seeing this at all on the translation market here. It is a dead man's land as far as investments go.


Continue about RF economy, torn into pieces ©.

It is so easy doing that it has lost the previous excitement and novelty, frankly. It is not a process anymore, it is a fait accompli. There are no ifs and buts, there is only the because. The questions of why it happened and who is to blame have been answered. The remaining questions are when and by whom...

Russian Lad
23-06-2016, 04:45
When the reforms will be carried out. Russia needs economic reforms.

FatAndy
23-06-2016, 09:09
So... is a plastic bag manufacturing (not just buy from China and sell) company providing jobs for Russians, good for the Russian economy, or not?
Surely good.

bydand
23-06-2016, 10:38
You live in your own little world.

When you can't argue a point, all you can do is try to insult.

Glad its not wallyworld.

Judge
23-06-2016, 11:22
When the reforms will be carried out. Russia needs economic reforms.

Why are they needed, everything is going peachy. ..

Russian Lad
23-06-2016, 13:51
Why are they needed, everything is going peachy. ..

You have given your account access to Wally?:)

Russian Lad
24-06-2016, 07:32
The ruble is gonna crash today - in 5-4-3-2- :smug: And Judge will have indigestion from peaches.:) Kvas patriots, ruuuuun to obmenniks! Buuuy dollars!:)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxi6gEZ1Dzg

Judge
24-06-2016, 08:02
The whole world system is about to crash, hold on to your hat and run to the hills,
Sterling down 8%,oil 6%


https://youtu.be/86URGgqONvA

Uncle Wally
24-06-2016, 11:43
The ruble is gonna crash today - in 5-4-3-2- :smug: And Judge will have indigestion from peaches.:) Kvas patriots, ruuuuun to obmenniks! Buuuy dollars!:)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxi6gEZ1Dzg



The IMF recently said that the US dollar is over valued by 20%

Russian Lad
24-06-2016, 18:38
The IMF recently said that the US dollar is over valued by 20%

Consider joining SUSNDW (the Sect of The US National Debt Witnesses), Wally, - some of these ladies may even date you if they find you cute enough:

30158

TolkoRaz
24-06-2016, 20:03
Consider joining SUSNDW (the Sect of The US National Debt Witnesses), Wally, - some of these ladies may even date you if they find you cute enough:

30158

I trust that you being a charitable and patriotic Russian have given those ladies a good discount for your newly launched dating site?

Russian Lad
24-06-2016, 21:56
I trust that you being a charitable and patriotic Russian have given those ladies a good discount for your newly launched dating site?

As patriotic as one can be - everything is 100% free on the site at this point, I am basically running a charity.:) The oldest woman is around 56 I believe. Join, Tolko, be a sport.:)

TolkoRaz
24-06-2016, 22:06
The oldest woman is around 56 I believe. Join, Tolko, be a sport.:)

56? Far too young for me! :p

Uncle Wally
24-06-2016, 23:56
As patriotic as one can be - everything is 100% free on the site at this point, I am basically running a charity.:) The oldest woman is around 56 I believe. Join, Tolko, be a sport.:)


So you got nothing but have invested much. I hope your scum sucking off the old or ugly people works out for you. Old ugly people need love too.

Russian Lad
25-06-2016, 06:26
So you got nothing but have invested much. I hope your scum sucking off the old or ugly people works out for you. Old ugly people need love too.

Wally, if you had any brains and/or education you would know all startups work like that. Durov, the founder of vk (which is still mostly free) has already invested 120 million dollars into his another startup, Telegram, which is still 100% free. Only idiots try to monetize startups the day they launch them. As to the age of the daters, the site attracts all age groups, the youngest dater there is 18. Some don't look too good (and your are right, they need love too), others are stunning, just like in a bar or in the street. Get a life, Wally.:smug: As to the scum or what not, that's all just like in real life - some people are into it for benefits, others - just for fun, yet others - for true love, etc. - there is no accounting for tastes and motives. I do delete scammers and spammers when I see them or get them reported - the best I can do.

Uncle Wally
25-06-2016, 13:11
Wally, if you had any brains and/or education you would know all startups work like that. Durov, the founder of vk (which is still mostly free) has already invested 120 million dollars into his another startup, Telegram, which is still 100% free. Only idiots try to monetize startups the day they launch them. As to the age of the daters, the site attracts all age groups, the youngest dater there is 18. Some don't look too good (and your are right, they need love too), others are stunning, just like in a bar or in the street. Get a life, Wally.:smug: As to the scum or what not, that's all just like in real life - some people are into it for benefits, others - just for fun, yet others - for true love, etc. - there is no accounting for tastes and motives. I do delete scammers and spammers when I see them or get them reported - the best I can do.


I think most of the girls would be kind of normal. The guys I think are the strange ones. Anyway you do have a point about starting it off for free and building up clients. In any business the first two years you need to reinvest all your profits.

Russian Lad
25-06-2016, 13:44
The guys I think are the strange ones.

You are saying no normal Westerner would want to date a normal Russian woman?:) It is not making much sense, even you date Russian women. Are you abnormal, Wally?:) Or you believe that no normal person dates online? Well, it is a blossoming industry both here and in the West, up to 30-40% of couples are formed after they first meet online, from what I have been reading.

Russian Lad
25-06-2016, 13:50
For 1.20?

That's the immediate result, and oil lost like 4%. I would measure "short-term" in 2-3 months though. Well, even if it is 50 copecks, it is clear Russia is not gaining anything short-term. So, this jubilation is out of helplessness and due to inferiority complexes. Even if the whole EU falls apart Russia will only lose and its citizens will become even more poor, fighting for cheap food in supermarkets. So, this whole policy and joy are insane. Russia needs a prospering and united Europe. In fact, Russia should become an integral part of Europe, that's the only way forward.

rumple_stilskin
25-06-2016, 13:54
That depends, among other things, on how soon the Ukrs fully control their border with Russia I think. I don't see it happening in any near future, so the core of the santctions will drag on for years to come, some may be dropped or eased a little I assume. Anyway, all the Russians officials expressed their satisfaction with the sanctions and claimed it will help them introduce импортозамещение. Why are you worried about sanctions, comrade? Why are your Iskanders not laughing anymore? You think they put us on the knees?:)

I am not talking about sanctions removed on 'Western' terms, sanctions removed because the West is breaking ranks - that is sanctions removed on Russian terms.

I am not worried about sanctions at all personally, just all the whining and negative vibes by others.

When sanctions are removed the saudis will give up trying to break ruasia and reduce their oil output - so i make a bonza on the dosh i have kept in roubles. (The Saudis and the sanctions are effecting currency exchange for roubles)

Russian Lad
25-06-2016, 13:58
so i make a bonza on the dosh i have kep in roubles

Lol. Good luck with that. I have already received and pocketed 100% profit from the dosh I have kept in dollars (have spent some of it in rubles on fabulous restaurants, nice girls, etc.), but you may keep daydreaming clutching your piles of rubles.:) I would not be surprised if the dollar costs like 200-300 rubles in a year or two.

FatAndy
25-06-2016, 19:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOlAG2t9BAMA

Russian Lad
25-06-2016, 19:21
Not in supermarkets, comrade - outside, in garbage containers!

Nothing will be left for garbage containers - they have this luxury now, but when the shortages come there will be no food to eat from garbage containers. Look at Venezuela, what makes you think Russia is special in this regard?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHbinayYUHo

FatAndy
25-06-2016, 19:50
Nothing will be left for garbage containers - they have this luxury now, but when the shortages come there will be no food to eat from garbage containers.
Insha alla! :)

Russian Lad
25-06-2016, 21:09
Insha alla! :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHqyHwaR4G4

Uncle Wally
25-06-2016, 22:05
Nothing will be left for garbage containers - they have this luxury now, but when the shortages come there will be no food to eat from garbage containers. Look at Venezuela, what makes you think Russia is special in this regard?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHbinayYUHo


Russia is not Venezuela. Russia is to a little country that can't grow food or make tanks. You want to be aggressive? One thing I have learned is don't get too aggressive with Russians.

rumple_stilskin
26-06-2016, 12:34
Lol. Good luck with that. I have already received and pocketed 100% profit from the dosh I have kept in dollars (have spent some of it in rubles on fabulous restaurants, nice girls, etc.), but you may keep daydreaming clutching your piles of rubles.:) I would not be surprised if the dollar costs like 200-300 rubles in a year or two.

If you believe the rouble will be 200 or more to the dollar, then why did you buy roubles now when it's only 70 or so to the dollar?

stupidity?

or maybe you are just trying to talk down anything about Russia, as though someone is listening......

(If you buy roubles, it means you think it will stay the same or strengthen.)

fenrir
26-06-2016, 12:43
(If you buy roubles, it means you think it will stay the same or strengthen.)

Or you might need to buy something from the supermarket.

FatAndy
26-06-2016, 13:13
Or you might need to buy something from the supermarket.
If you have dollah or oiro accound plus a card attached to it, no need to change, supermarkets accept cards.

rumple_stilskin
26-06-2016, 14:04
Or you might need to buy something from the supermarket.

he wrote:


Lol. Good luck with that. I have already received and pocketed 100% profit from the dosh I have kept in dollars (have spent some of it in rubles on fabulous restaurants, nice girls, etc.)

hardly a forced sell of dollars, unless he wants to state otherwise.

he was just trying to bag russia.....

Russian Lad
26-06-2016, 16:34
If you believe the rouble will be 200 or more to the dollar, then why did you buy roubles now when it's only 70 or so to the dollar?

stupidity?

Just because I ran out of rubles. So, I got some. Mystery solved?:) I don't believe in the ruble at all. I expect another crash this autumn (this winter the latest). The ruble is so weak it even reacted to Brexit, big time initial knee-jerk reaction. Soon it will be reacting to the political instability in Somalia or Nigeria. The ruble is not a global reserve currency, so one has to be a complete, despicable (add the appropriate noun) to keep his savings in rubles in Russia.


If you have dollah or oiro accound plus a card attached to it, no need to change, supermarkets accept cards.

And one would pay % for each transaction plus the exchange rate would not be that great. Besides, I don't use my main cards for shopping, I get some rubles onto a card specifically for the groceries and so forth. So far, so good. The food from garbage containers is still the best.

bydand
26-06-2016, 21:27
The food from garbage containers is still the best.

Just anecdotal evidence, but ashtrays, and doorways are worse. Used to be you could find a good beechoke, now they are all down to the filter.

FatAndy
26-06-2016, 21:41
ashtrays, and doorways are worse. Used to be you could find a good beechoke, now they are all down to the filter.
Pissoirs are the next, comrade. ;)

bydand
26-06-2016, 21:52
Pissoirs are the next, comrade. ;)

Well, the elite will always have car doors.

Uncle Wally
26-06-2016, 22:17
Nothing will be left for garbage containers - they have this luxury now, but when the shortages come there will be no food to eat from garbage containers. Look at Venezuela, what makes you think Russia is special in this regard?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHbinayYUHo



Maybe the fact that Russia is now the largest grain exporter and has been increasing production of pork, chicken,apple and many other food stuffs. Russia and China just signed 50 billion dollars in business deals and add that to the 50 billion just agreed on in St Pete and things are looking just a little better. Oh and now even more trade between China and Russia will not be done in dollars.

Uncle Wally
26-06-2016, 22:19
Well, the elite will always have car doors.


Excuse me but if a car has no doors how are we to get in and out?


After reading my post I feel like AstarD would have posted the same.

Russian Lad
27-06-2016, 08:52
Maybe the fact that Russia is now the largest grain exporter

What about hemp, honey and furs? Russia was also a huge grain exporter exactly 100 years ago...

FatAndy
27-06-2016, 09:24
:emote_popcorn:

bydand
27-06-2016, 09:59
Well, the elite will always have car doors.

To рiss behind.

Russian Lad
27-06-2016, 10:33
Used to be you could find a good beechoke, now they are all down to the filter

Indeed, comrade, I have to fight this sudden problem of good beechokes availability as well. Used to find many good ones, only half-smoked. You clean them from dirt, get a sausage from the garbage container, and suddenly you are the king of the neighborhood and all the local girls are looking at you playfully. Not anymore - the beechokes are getting scarce and smoked to the butt.


Excuse me but if a car has no doors how are we to get in and out?

Wally, you seem to be forgetting your native tongue. Even I understood Bydand's joke. Maybe you need a few English lessons over skype from me or another Russian who knows some English?:) Otherwise you are risking not learning Russian and forgetting English - this way you will not be even able to earn your keep by posting here. Not sure if your barking or bellowing skills can be monetized or, rather, doshirakized - in your case. We, the international Jewish community, are deeply concerned, comrade.

fenrir
27-06-2016, 12:17
Maybe the fact that Russia is now the largest grain exporter.

What's your source, Wally?

http://www.worldstopexports.com/wheat-exports-country/

This article was posted 15 June 2016 and shows Russia in 5th place behind Canada, the US, Australia and France.

AstarD
27-06-2016, 13:01
He doesn't have a source other than "I heard about" or "Lots of people are saying".

Russian Lad
27-06-2016, 13:28
Poor Wally. Looks like he will get no pelmeshka or even a doshirak for posting today. :crying: Basically, a huge Russia supplies grain like five tiny Romanias - a great achievement indeed.

Uncle Wally
27-06-2016, 15:26
What's your source, Wally?

http://www.worldstopexports.com/wheat-exports-country/

This article was posted 15 June 2016 and shows Russia in 5th place behind Canada, the US, Australia and France.



That's only the amount in dollars. What's the amount in tons?

fenrir
27-06-2016, 15:38
That's only the amount in dollars. What's the amount in tons?

No matter what currency it's valued at, the proportions will stay the same. If you are interested in tons, look it up.

Uncle Wally
27-06-2016, 15:48
Poor Wally. Looks like he will get no pelmeshka or even a doshirak for posting today. :crying: Basically, a huge Russia supplies grain like five tiny Romanias - a great achievement indeed.


Shouldn't you be at the exchange booth? How's the ruble doing anyway?

Russian Lad
27-06-2016, 20:04
Shouldn't you be at the exchange booth? How's the ruble doing anyway?

How exactly is it related to your f;;ckup of the factual info about Russia's grain imports? No need for me to visit the booth every day. The ruble is titillating on the verge, as usual... Wally posting lies here on the forum is the ruble's last hope. The ultimate frontier. If Wally keeps failing like that - gloom and doom ahead for the ruble, so concentrate, Wally. The whole world is watching. Is reading that is.

Judge
27-06-2016, 20:23
Maybe the fact that Russia is now the largest grain exporter

You're right, Russia is on its way to become the largest grain exporter this year.
Another key word in your post is "now " what fenrir posted was stats from last year, he's doing a Nobs and RL all in one, lack of comprehension and talking about something that's last years news.

And in other news ,the Germans can't get enough of Russia,


Trade with Russia has been hampered by sanctions, but German firms are responding by building factories in Russia, Die Welt economy correspondent Carsten Dierig reported on Sunday.
Dierig cited statistics from the German Bundesbank which show that there has been a turnaround, including a record rise, in German investment in Russia since the EU first imposed sanctions against Russia in 2014.
"While German investors turned away from Russia in 2014 and there was a net outflow of capital, the pendulum is now swinging the other way."
"In 2015 the direct investment of German companies rose to 1.78 billion euros ($1.96 billion), an amount that was only exceeded in the boom years from 2006 to 2008, and in 2010."
"A new record is set to be reached in 2016. According to the Bundesbank, total direct investment from Germany in the first quarter alone reached almost 1.1 billion euros ($1.2 billion)."


Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160627/1041995533/german-investment-russia-sanctions.html#ixzz4CnktqNeb

Russian Lad
27-06-2016, 20:31
You're right, Russia is on its way to become the largest grain exporter this year.
Another key word in your post is "now " what fenrir posted was stats from last year, he's doing a Nobs and RL all in one, lack of comprehension and talking about something that's last years news.

And in other news ,the Germans can't get enough of Russia,


Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160627/1041995533/german-investment-russia-sanctions.html#ixzz4CnktqNeb


You are saying Wally will get a pelmeshka for his efforts? I am slightly jealous. By the way, guys, are you some sort of an unofficial promoter of sputik and rt? I mean, like 90% of your links to make a point come from these two sources of the Towers. Am just curious.:smug: Are you their last hope?

Judge
27-06-2016, 20:48
You are saying Wally will get a pelmeshka for his efforts? I am slightly jealous. By the way, guys, are you some sort of an unofficial promoter of sputik and rt? I mean, like 90% of your links to make a point come from these two sources of the Towers. Am just curious.:smug: Are you their last hope?

I'm just pointing out that there is some truth in what he said,now you're talking about imports, but he said exports, just correcting. .
About the Sputnik link, you can read the article they linked here, maybe the sites chef can help you translate it,
http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article156562067/Deutsche-Firmen-setzen-auf-Fabriken-direkt-in-Russland.html

Russian Lad
27-06-2016, 21:11
I'm just pointing out that there is some truth in what he said,now you're talking about imports, but he said exports, just correcting. .
About the Sputnik link, you can read the article they linked here, maybe the sites chef can help you translate it,
http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article156562067/Deutsche-Firmen-setzen-auf-Fabriken-direkt-in-Russland.html

Exports, yes, I am trying to do like 5 things at a time. Wally was saying it is a fact now, it turns out it is wishful thinking. And even if they succeed, it will only mean less grain here in Russia and higher bread prices as a result. What about hemp, fur and honey? Will the brides export see a steep rise too?:) Not sure it will help the Rodina, but hey, you seem to view exports as something great, so you should be happy.:)

Uncle Wally
27-06-2016, 21:18
I'm just pointing out that there is some truth in what he said,now you're talking about imports, but he said exports, just correcting. .
About the Sputnik link, you can read the article they linked here, maybe the sites chef can help you translate it,
http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article156562067/Deutsche-Firmen-setzen-auf-Fabriken-direkt-in-Russland.html



Thank you. There is some truth to everything thing I say. Like Mercedes Benz just sign the agreement to build a factory in Moscow region and there are more companies on the way.

fenrir
27-06-2016, 21:44
You're right, Russia is on its way to become the largest grain exporter this year.
Another key word in your post is "now " what fenrir posted was stats from last year, he's doing a Nobs and RL all in one, lack of comprehension and talking about something that's last years news.

Of course I used last year's figures. Do you or Wally have figures for 2016 yet? I wonder about you sometimes, Judge.

fenrir
27-06-2016, 21:47
Thank you. There is some truth to everything thing I say. Like Mercedes Benz just sign the agreement to build a factory in Moscow region and there are more companies on the way.


You posted total BS. When 2016's figures are out, things may be different but we won't know until sometime in 2017.

You were asked for a link to the Merc deal before, which of course you didn't provide. Where is it? We would like to read it.

TolkoRaz
27-06-2016, 21:53
Thank you. There is some truth to everything thing I say. Like Mercedes Benz just sign the agreement to build a factory in Moscow region and there are more companies on the way.

Looks like VVP has now also survived Obama and Cameron! :)

TolkoRaz
27-06-2016, 21:54
You posted total BS. When 2016's figures are out, things may be different but we won't know until sometime in 2017.

You were asked for a link to the Merc deal before, which of course you didn't provide. Where is it? We would like to read it.

I provided plenty of links, if you recall! ;)

Albeit, no contract, but it is being negotiated as you will recall! ;)

Judge
27-06-2016, 22:36
Of course I used last year's figures. Do you or Wally have figures for 2016 yet? I wonder about you sometimes, Judge.

keep wondering,

Russia became the world leader in sales of wheat for export, to the report of the Ministry of agriculture of the United States. It was published on Friday, June 10. Export of Russia to this date is estimated at 24.5 million tons of wheat, Canada 22.5 million tons, USA – 21,09 million tons in Total grain exports from 1 July 2015 to 8 June 2016 increased by 12.3% 33,04 million tons, follows from the data of the Russian Ministry of agriculture.

http://agro2b.ru/en/news/32396-For-the-first-time-Russia-became.html

Uncle Wally
27-06-2016, 22:36
I provided plenty of links, if you recall! ;)

Albeit, no contract, but it is being negotiated as you will recall! ;)


If he has a problem he should take it up with Mr. Gates. Since my phone has got the fabulous update to Windows 10 it hasn't worked right. I can't download apps on my SD card nor take photos on the SD card or post links on this forum. I can on WhatsApp or Skype but not here.

Uncle Wally
27-06-2016, 22:40
keep worrying,

Russia became the world leader in sales of wheat for export, to the report of the Ministry of agriculture of the United States. It was published on Friday, June 10. Export of Russia to this date is estimated at 24.5 million tons of wheat, Canada 22.5 million tons, USA – 21,09 million tons in Total grain exports from 1 July 2015 to 8 June 2016 increased by 12.3% 33,04 million tons, follows from the data of the Russian Ministry of agriculture.

http://agro2b.ru/en/news/32396-For-the-first-time-Russia-became.html



Yes and with a weaker ruble exports will grow.

Russian Lad
27-06-2016, 23:22
Looks like VVP has now also survived Obama and Cameron!

Mugabe is the president of Zimbabwe since 1987, so VVP is not #1 in this regard. If you know what I mean.:smug:

fenrir
28-06-2016, 09:33
keep wondering,

Russia became the world leader in sales of wheat for export, to the report of the Ministry of agriculture of the United States. It was published on Friday, June 10. Export of Russia to this date is estimated at 24.5 million tons of wheat, Canada 22.5 million tons, USA – 21,09 million tons in Total grain exports from 1 July 2015 to 8 June 2016 increased by 12.3% 33,04 million tons, follows from the data of the Russian Ministry of agriculture.

http://agro2b.ru/en/news/32396-For-the-first-time-Russia-became.html

First off, there is no such thing as a Ministry of Agriculture in the US. That’s what you get for using a Russian source. We have a Department of Agriculture.

Second, your source uses a different time frame from mine and that is very significant when talking about agriculture because of the different planting and growing seasons around the world. My article dealt with all of 2015, for which there is more complete data. Yours looks from the middle of 2015 to basically now, for which there is not complete data and it has to rely on projections and estimations.

Third, I took a look at the US report (Did you?). The first sentence is as follows: Because planting is still underway in the Northern Hemisphere and remains several months away in the Southern Hemisphere, these projections are highly tentative.

Nice try, but no dice.

Btw, you and Tolko might want to let Wally back up his own claims instead of laboring for him. He’s not an invalid who needs charitable help, is he?

fenrir
28-06-2016, 09:38
If he has a problem he should take it up with Mr. Gates. Since my phone has got the fabulous update to Windows 10 it hasn't worked right. I can't download apps on my SD card nor take photos on the SD card or post links on this forum. I can on WhatsApp or Skype but not here.

Excuses, excuses. Using American technology. I'm disappointed in you. Btw, even Tolko admits there's no Merc contract yet so your claim is still bogus.