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Anastasia
06-03-2004, 16:29
International women day is comming, the 8th of March. Always wanted to ask is this day been celebrated in other countries, or it is important only in Russia?

PS If it doesn't don't forget to congratulate your girl friend!
:D

Stasy

camus
06-03-2004, 16:57
It's a Russian thing as far as I can tell -- never even heard of the holiday until I came to this country.

Peter

DaveUKagain
06-03-2004, 16:59
Forget it at your peril, fellas........... :)

Pingu
06-03-2004, 17:30
As I understand it, it's only celebrated in Russia, even though it's called "International" Women's Day.

DaveUKagain's right - "forget it at your peril, fellas" - it does seem to be a huge issue here with women - the secretary's office in our building looked like a florist's kiosk when I left yesterday! One colleague complained to me that our boss had given us "only tulips"... I was surprised, but then I'm just a foreigner and I'm not complaining at being given flowers, regardless of the type!

fiesta
06-03-2004, 22:19
I assume that post soviet countries (not meaning NIS) have it too. But think it's not a great event there any more.

cyclby
06-03-2004, 22:27
Well it works for me!
C

Anastasia
07-03-2004, 13:57
I had an idea that most of the expats don't take it seriously. Unfortunately (and I think most of women here will aggree) it really matters for russian women as we feel about this holiday almost like about St. Valentine's or something like that. As for me I was very upset when my expat boyfriend didn't congratulate me.

:D We are women, what else to expect from us!;) :gorgeous:

Stasy

kniga
07-03-2004, 15:18
Anastasia,

Fair warning indeed! I have congratulated every woman I have seen today, starting at the little bazaar where I bought a lightbulb to the small market where I buy incidentals, and every Russian woman reacted happily and with a big smile. One woman at a market who had previously never uttered anything but "Govorite!" and "45 roubles", smiled broadly and started talking to me like a normal person! So, guys, treat them right on this holiday and get a rewarding smile instead of that scowl you've been getting. :-)

Sadie
07-03-2004, 18:33
Daz your daughters' influence, Bookie
Not that they care 'bout the holiday, but on the whole women, especially daughters make man milder and much more attentive to this kind of things ;) :)

kniga
07-03-2004, 18:58
Sadie,

Sigh...My father was a Marine Drill Instructor and I spent many years turning boys into men in the Army, but God played a cosmic joke on me and gave me daughters instead of sons. All that good training thrown right out the window!

Sadie
07-03-2004, 19:12
c'mon ;), God blessed u with daughters to develop your versatile abilities further :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:

kniga
07-03-2004, 19:20
Sadie,

Yes, but whereas sons have the good sense to fear Thunder on Two Feet when the father walks into the room, daughters just look at you with a look that says, "Yes, and what do YOU want?" You can grab boys by the stacking swivel and put the fear of God into them when they get out of line, but daughters are impervious to every form of discipline that works with boys.

DaveUKagain
07-03-2004, 19:35
At least they can`t field strip an M-16 in front of you when you start trying to discipline `em, Kniga. ;-)))))))

Ladies, congratulations for Den Zhenshina - I wish you all life, love, happiness and success. If I don`t, you`d kill me. :)

kniga
07-03-2004, 19:52
Dave,

I've survived one war and two daughters -- both activities took about the same number of years off my life...

stefania2003
07-03-2004, 21:16
Why can't you let them have their silly ex-Communist holidays and humour them? When in Rome etc.....

DaveUKagain
07-03-2004, 21:22
Den Zhenshina`s important for Russian women for the simple expedient that they`re made to feel like second class citizens for the rest of the year. If you don`t have much, then the little you do have becomes much more important.......

Happy Ladies` Day to all here. ;-)))))))))

in Red
07-03-2004, 21:54
A very curious remark, Dave! But what would you say about the 23 of February then :D
I'm ready to agree with you, though :)

kniga
07-03-2004, 21:55
Stefania,

But my dear lady, expat men do honor the holidays (I saluted the okhrana at my building on Soviet Army Day, ooops, Defenders of the Fatherland Day), and the smartest of them honor Russian women by trying to make every day Women's Day.

Anastasia
07-03-2004, 22:26
Originally posted by stefania2003
Why can't you let them have their silly ex-Communist holidays and humour them? When in Rome etc.....

Stefania, if I got the idea right about silly and all the stuff, well it's not very polite of you. Correct me someone if I'm wrong.:(

Anastasia
07-03-2004, 22:30
Dear expat men!:D I'm so glad to know that there are so many gentleman among you!:) It's really great!

Stasy

DaveUKagain
07-03-2004, 22:33
Originally posted by in Red
A very curious remark, Dave! But what would you say about the 23 of February then :D
I'm ready to agree with you, though :)

So was Nekrasov (amongst others) :)

Доля ты! - русская долюшка женская!
Вряд ли труднее сыскать

in Red
07-03-2004, 23:07
Originally posted by DaveUKagain
So was Nekrasov (amongst others) :)

Доля ты! - русская долюшка женская!
Вряд ли труднее сыскать

It's wonderful how much times have changed :D
On the other hand, gives us reasons to say classics is immortal!

But still there are gentlemen among us, so there is a hope for the best :)

koba65
08-03-2004, 08:44
Hate to break it to you, but this holiday was actually celebrated in the U.S. first (like May Day). International Women's Day was first observed on 28 February 1909 in the U.S. - it was pushed for by the National SOCIALIST Party....

It was first observed in Russia on 23 February 1917 (8 March using the Greg. Calendar).

DaveUKagain
08-03-2004, 11:07
...... and a few years later, the NKVD were pulling women off the street to work on building sites. Mainly because the 1917 Revolution made women and men (theoretically) equal....... you can, I hear, still see female construction workers on building sites nowadays in Russia.

They need a Den Zhenshina somewhat more than most.......