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Jas
05-10-2013, 13:03
One of the hardest thing for the Muslim mind to understand is the west's prolific production of porn.
There are many questions: like why doesn't someone stop the women from doing it, why doesn't the goverment stop it, u get the response, right?
But I think there are some legit questions....
I mean, why wud a man want to post pics of his wife, or gf? It seems so sick.
And why wud a woman want to do it also? Ok more money? Fine, but what about women who don't get paid?
Swingers? Wtf. It's just over gross and it turns me stomach.

What is going on with these people? I think no way can a country be strong if ure having that kind of bad stuff.

What I think is behind all of it is men. Their the users, the consumers, and also the producers. So it's maybe not why women are failing morally who do porn.... but a question of who is controlling them.

I don't agree with those feminists who are telling that porn is empowering for women and those feminists who are telling that are just idiots.

So guys.... porn's people: why DO they do it?

Suuryaa
05-10-2013, 13:49
One of the hardest thing for the Muslim mind to understand is the west's prolific production of porn.
There are many questions: like why doesn't someone stop the women from doing it, why doesn't the goverment stop it, u get the response, right?
But I think there are some legit questions....
I mean, why wud a man want to post pics of his wife, or gf? It seems so sick.
And why wud a woman want to do it also? Ok more money? Fine, but what about women who don't get paid?
Swingers? Wtf. It's just over gross and it turns me stomach.

What is going on with these people? I think no way can a country be strong if ure having that kind of bad stuff.

What I think is behind all of it is men. Their the users, the consumers, and also the producers. So it's maybe not why women are failing morally who do porn.... but a question of who is controlling them.

I don't agree with those feminists who are telling that porn is empowering for women and those feminists who are telling that are just idiots.

So guys.... porn's people: why DO they do it?

They are sick!

Sana
05-10-2013, 15:38
Jas, why did you decide to raise this subject?

Jack17
05-10-2013, 16:08
Sex is sick - and it's nasty too. We ought to do away with all of it. The Soviets had the right idea!

Alan65
05-10-2013, 18:17
One of the hardest thing for the Muslim mind to understand is the west's prolific production of porn.
There are many questions: like why doesn't someone stop the women from doing it, why doesn't the goverment stop it, u get the response, right?
But I think there are some legit questions....
I mean, why wud a man want to post pics of his wife, or gf? It seems so sick.
And why wud a woman want to do it also? Ok more money? Fine, but what about women who don't get paid?
Swingers? Wtf. It's just over gross and it turns me stomach.

What is going on with these people? I think no way can a country be strong if ure having that kind of bad stuff.

What I think is behind all of it is men. Their the users, the consumers, and also the producers. So it's maybe not why women are failing morally who do porn.... but a question of who is controlling them.

I don't agree with those feminists who are telling that porn is empowering for women and those feminists who are telling that are just idiots.

So guys.... porn's people: why DO they do it?

Money and a lack of talent...well sort of :D

BabyFirefly
05-10-2013, 22:44
They do it because it's very good money, if you're willing to do it.

I call BS on the empowering women thing... yeah, very, very empowering to act exactly the way men want you to. Hah.

okiey
05-10-2013, 22:56
One of the hardest thing for the Muslim mind to understand is the west's prolific production of porn.
There are many questions: like why doesn't someone stop the women from doing it, why doesn't the goverment stop it, u get the response, right?
But I think there are some legit questions....
I mean, why wud a man want to post pics of his wife, or gf? It seems so sick.
And why wud a woman want to do it also? Ok more money? Fine, but what about women who don't get paid?
Swingers? Wtf. It's just over gross and it turns me stomach.

What is going on with these people? I think no way can a country be strong if ure having that kind of bad stuff.

What I think is behind all of it is men. Their the users, the consumers, and also the producers. So it's maybe not why women are failing morally who do porn.... but a question of who is controlling them.

I don't agree with those feminists who are telling that porn is empowering for women and those feminists who are telling that are just idiots.

So guys.... porn's people: why DO they do it?

Its almost as perverse as polygamy

TolkoRaz
05-10-2013, 23:06
I think Porn is a load of bollocks! :D

Russian Lad
06-10-2013, 00:09
I think Porn is a load of bollocks!

Well, there is good porn and bad porn.:) The woman makes the film, so the good porn is the one where the woman is not pretending or acting it out but is just her own self. A rare find, but such films exist.:)

TolkoRaz
06-10-2013, 00:17
The woman makes the film, so the good porn is the one where the woman is not pretending or acting it out but is just her own self. A rare find, but such films exist.:)

I know what you mean, I have starred in many such films! ;)

Russian Lad
06-10-2013, 00:27
I know what you mean, I have starred in many such films!

Errrr.... As a woman?:9456::jawdrop:

TolkoRaz
06-10-2013, 01:02
If they pay enough, I will do anything! ;)

Torres
06-10-2013, 01:56
One of the hardest thing for the Muslim mind to understand is the west's prolific production of porn.
A Muslim mind in Moscow does it like there's no tomorrow. It just does it, OK? Those damn Russians. They are the root of all evil, aren't they? British and Americans too (let's be fair).

Jack17
06-10-2013, 02:00
If they pay enough, I will do anything! ;)
Tolka, you're a sexual mercenary.

Russian Lad
06-10-2013, 04:24
Tolka, you're a sexual mercenary.

Now we know what is really behind all those expensive voyages of Tolko around the globe...:)

Torres
06-10-2013, 05:19
Now we know what is really behind all those expensive voyages of Tolko around the globe...:)

If you have nothing to say, you better shut it tight.

TolkoRaz
06-10-2013, 10:08
Now we know what is really behind all those expensive voyages of Tolko around the globe...:)

Or, rather who is behind! ;)

quincy
06-10-2013, 12:44
One of the hardest thing for the Muslim mind to understand is the west's prolific production of porn.



are Muslims a species from outer space?

there are all kinds of Muslims! there is a huge amount of prostitution in Muslim countries. A lot of it is underground but everyone knows it's there, and I'm sure a "Muslim mind" could be accessing erotic material on the internet just as a non-Muslim, and "Muslim" businessmen, and even actors are no doubt involved in this trade too!

TolkoRaz
06-10-2013, 13:00
Quite correct - Even in The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, prostitution thrives.

Semi-permanent tented complexes, often luxurious, are erected in the desert where Wine, Women and Song are on offer!

In Kuwait, I have seen prostitutes in the hotels, in the UAE they openly proposition men in the street. In other ME countries, prostitutes work the hotels, clubs and Shisha bars.

Its one of the oldest professions, second only to Espionage, so they can always be found in any country.

Jas
06-10-2013, 14:10
are Muslims a species from outer space?

there are all kinds of Muslims! there is a huge amount of prostitution in Muslim countries. A lot of it is underground but everyone knows it's there, and I'm sure a "Muslim mind" could be accessing erotic material on the internet just as a non-Muslim, and "Muslim" businessmen, and even actors are no doubt involved in this trade too!

I think u are confused between the hypocrisy of Muslim societies and how, despite that *rampant* hypocrisy, the comparison is not a easy one to make.
The stats wud show I think that Muslim counties are not the producers of porn either underground or otherwise, but are massive users. The west is doing the producing and this thread, porn's people, is about those who go in for actually getting their stuff off as opposed to some filthy beardo in a internet cafe in Peshawar ogling this gross stuff.

No one doubts the hypocrisy in Muslim countries and the frightening porn addiction of the men there (which is partly why I predict wars over water and rape riots in urban areas in the future), but that doesnt explain the questions what I asked in the top of the thread in any way!

Who are porn's people? Why wud a woman do it? Is it linked to low intelligence, or drugs? There is got to be a pattern in this...

Jas
06-10-2013, 14:14
Quite correct - Even in The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, prostitution thrives.

Semi-permanent tented complexes, often luxurious, are erected in the desert where Wine, Women and Song are on offer!

In Kuwait, I have seen prostitutes in the hotels, in the UAE they openly proposition men in the street. In other ME countries, prostitutes work the hotels, clubs and Shisha bars.

Its one of the oldest professions, second only to Espionage, so they can always be found in any country.

But very little of this translates into porn..... u cud be a prostitute, but not one of porn's people.
Or, in the west, is they're a cross over with the women doing this effectively prostitutes also? These are the questions what need answered if we're to answer the question: who are porn's people?

TolkoRaz
06-10-2013, 15:04
Both men and women watch and enjoy porn, it is not exclusive to only men.

Periwinkle
06-10-2013, 15:19
are Muslims a species from outer space?

there are all kinds of Muslims! there is a huge amount of prostitution in Muslim countries. A lot of it is underground but everyone knows it's there, and I'm sure a "Muslim mind" could be accessing erotic material on the internet just as a non-Muslim, and "Muslim" businessmen, and even actors are no doubt involved in this trade too!

Yes, there is a huge trade now in Syrian refugee women/girls the same that had happened to Iraqis.
Turkey, has been importing Slavic women for years as sex slaves.
In the UK the police are finally admitting the majority of sex gangs that target underage vulnerable girls are Muslim.
Those darn Muslims.....why jas why?

Jas
06-10-2013, 15:44
Yes, there is a huge trade now in Syrian refugee women/girls the same that had happened to Iraqis.
Turkey, has been importing Slavic women for years as sex slaves.
In the UK the police are finally admitting the majority of sex gangs that target underage vulnerable girls are Muslim.
Those darn Muslims.....why jas why?

Er, so why aren't u telling also about the huge trade in Nigerian women to Italy, or East European girls to Amsterdam and Germany, or all the girls what are getting pimped in SE Asia to rich guys from the west?

I got observations to make on the problems in Muslim communities in the UK and how women are suffering all over the Islamic world...... but u seem to be coming at this from a certain angle I can c.

Jas
06-10-2013, 15:50
Both men and women watch and enjoy porn, it is not exclusive to only men.

Tolki hi. I wud reckon that the vast majority of porn involves women and that the vast majority of its users are men.
I dunno if men are wired up in different ways, but porn never did nothing for me and I doubt I'm the only one telling that.
I used to work in a newsagents btw and one of me jobs was to stack the top shelf. I never once saw a woman go in and buy that stuff. Horrible having to serve those guys. I always had a sharp fringe and I wud just lower me eyes and let me hair half veil me face as I was serving them. So embarassing and I dunno how they cud even go to a shop and buy that trash.

robertmf
06-10-2013, 16:49
Turkey, has been importing Slavic women for years as sex slaves.


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh "The Compound"

The old man would fall into debt - and the wife would be sent to the local debtors prison to "work off the debt".

1 lira. Rationed to the Askari, foreigners 2 lira.

Jack17
06-10-2013, 19:04
Er, so why aren't u telling also about the huge trade in Nigerian women to Italy

You mean someone is paying for all those black women coming to Lampedusa on little boats from Africa?

Do you have any reliable resource to substantiate that claim?

I'm an Italian citizen; live there part of the year and have never seen, nor have I ever even heard of an Italian man with a Nigerian or other black woman.

People still say Americans are bigoted; let me tell you, I can't think of any people who are more racist than Italians unless it's Russians. Italian man with a black woman? Nah. Now, Albanian, Serbian, Swede, Brit or Russian? Yeah, plenty of those.

As for Russian/Ukrainian/Belarus girls prostituting in Amsterdam, Germany or Prague, personally, I doubt most were forced there at gun point. There is no shortage of willing prostitutes inside Russia; why wouldn't the same girls travel to Amsterdam, Prague or Berlin where they could make more money doing the same thing?

I challenge the idea that every female prostitute is a victim and engaged in the oldest profession against her will.

Mr england
06-10-2013, 19:32
Hey :) interesting subject, and for me the answer is very simple.

Supply and demand. Sexual satisfaction being the strongest of human instinct, drive of life. It's embedded into the natural makeup of every animal to feel sexually motivated, and satisfied after doing so, Now that we live in a society in which sexual actions are judeged, and even manipulated by religion, media, etc etc, that nature instinct and drive isn't being fulfilled, as our minds and bodies where evolved to behave. So now you see the demand for sexual satisfaction by others means, porn being one!

When there is a need, be it money or porn someone's going to provide, another's going to pay!

As for why in the west we accept porn, and other sexual behaviours, I believe it's because we are less religious, and religions where who first started suppressing sexual activity as a means of gender control. Imo

Jas
06-10-2013, 19:49
You mean someone is paying for all those black women coming to Lampedusa on little boats from Africa?

Do you have any reliable resource to substantiate that claim?

.

Jack, I saw it on Al Jazeera site and here is the report.

Italian sex trade fueled by human trafficking - YouTube

tonytony
06-10-2013, 19:57
Er, so why aren't u telling also about the huge trade in Nigerian women to Italy, or East European girls to Amsterdam and Germany, or all the girls what are getting pimped in SE Asia to rich guys from the west?

I got observations to make on the problems in Muslim communities in the UK and how women are suffering all over the Islamic world...... but u seem to be coming at this from a certain angle I can c.


I think that both periwinkle and jack have made very relevant points.

Jas,

You seem to hold out Muslims as being superior in some way:-


One of the hardest thing for the Muslim mind to understand is the west's prolific production of porn.

I would suggest that this is partly why you are being attacked so much. I would strongly disagree with you that it is any more difficult for muslims to understand porn than it is for anyone else to understand porn.

You always seem to set yourself, and other muslims, up as being morally superior to others. I would suggest that this is part of the reason for the reactions you get. Do you recall, in another thread, when you implied that only white people can be racist?

Having said that, I would agree with you that it is unfortunate that this thread has been derailed by going off onto a discussion about prostitution which, I would argue, is quite a different issue to pornography.

When it comes to pornography, I would suggest it is not so much to do with drugs or intelligence - as you suggest - as simply, earning potential.

If you are a pretty, teenage girl, with few qualifications, working in a dead end job in a shop, factory or warehouse then I can quite understand the temptations.

What you might earn for working three or four weeks in your dead end job, you can earn the same in two hours by shagging a not unattractive bloke while being filmed doing it. For quite a number of young girls this is not a bad proposition.

Also, don't forget that quite a few people are rather exhibitionist and enjoy being watched. Quite a few women - and men - set up their own websites and production companies to film themselves having sex and make money from it.

That is porn. I would suggest that there are a number of different issues when talking about prostitution. However, your assumption that everyone is trafficked or otherwise involved against their will is a massive over simplification.

Yes, of course trafficking happens, but I think you would be surprised just how many women enter into this with eyes wide open, knowing full well what they are getting into.

As you have demonstrated in a number of other threads, you give me the impression that you know little outside of a narrow British/Pakistani youth culture.

To repeat a question that was asked of you upthread, what is the purpose of asking this question here?

Alan65
06-10-2013, 19:58
You mean someone is paying for all those black women coming to Lampedusa on little boats from Africa?

Do you have any reliable resource to substantiate that claim?

I'm an Italian citizen; live there part of the year and have never seen, nor have I ever even heard of an Italian man with a Nigerian or other black woman.

People still say Americans are bigoted; let me tell you, I can't think of any people who are more racist than Italians unless it's Russians. Italian man with a black woman? Nah. Now, Albanian, Serbian, Swede, Brit or Russian? Yeah, plenty of those.

As for Russian/Ukrainian/Belarus girls prostituting in Amsterdam, Germany or Prague, personally, I doubt most were forced there at gun point. There is no shortage of willing prostitutes inside Russia; why wouldn't the same girls travel to Amsterdam, Prague or Berlin where they could make more money doing the same thing?

I challenge the idea that every female prostitute is a victim and engaged in the oldest profession against her will.

In April we went to Thailand, my girlfriend had to go through a different immigration channel at DMO, as we were flying first to Qatar, the Russian immigration official pretty much called my girlfriend a prostitute for going first to Qatar and then Thailand alone.

When in Samui, on Green Mango Soi, there is only one bar offering the services of non Thai girls, its a Russian bar but my girlfriend did point out that it is not Russian girls working there but Ukrainians and Belarussians :D

Mr england
06-10-2013, 19:58
Jaz I'm confused? Do you wish to insult or learn? Do you wish to ask a question and gain insight? Or just give to the forum your opinion regarding your disagreement with porn?

Jack17
06-10-2013, 19:59
Sorry, the video is "not available in my country."

OK, some horney paisano wants to try a black girl. There are stranger things under the sun.

My guess is these girls are asylum seekers who in turn are seeking gainful employment the best way they can. Sad, but it happens everywhere were there is an underclass.

Mr england
06-10-2013, 20:09
Some science - Birds do it, bees do it, and men do it any old time. But women will only do it if the candles are scented just right -- and their partner has done the dishes first. A stereotype, sure, but is it true? Do men really have stronger sex drives than women?

Well, yes, they do. Study after study shows that men's sex drives are not only stronger than women's, but much more straightforward. The sources of women's libidos, by contrast, are much harder to pin down.

It's common wisdom that women place more value on emotional connection as a spark of sexual desire. But women also appear to be heavily influenced by social and cultural factors as well.

"Sexual desire in women is extremely sensitive to environment and context," says Edward O. Laumann, PhD. He is a professor of sociology at the University of Chicago and lead author of a major survey of sexual practices, The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States.



And let's face it.... When money is to be made, the act of sex is a much easier way to make it than most other means! So women use this advantage,

It's purely moral and religious beliefs you hold which prevent you accepting sex isn't really the big deal people make it out to be!

Benedikt
07-10-2013, 14:18
Tolka, you're a sexual mercenary.

One of the hardest thing for the Muslim mind to understand is the west's prolific production of porn.

why is it so hard to understand? it was after all YOUR Mohammed who promised your men, if you die there will be 70,or how many, viirgins waiting,and milk and honey aand when one has enough, still young boys with -long and dark eylashes-. so who started the whole thing?

thsi is a fact. remember the film with Demi Moore about the 1 Million $ if she would sleep with the man.

Periwinkle
08-10-2013, 09:24
Er, so why aren't u telling also about the huge trade in Nigerian women to Italy, or East European girls to Amsterdam and Germany, or all the girls what are getting pimped in SE Asia to rich guys from the west?

I got observations to make on the problems in Muslim communities in the UK and how women are suffering all over the Islamic world...... but u seem to be coming at this from a certain angle I can c.

Just pointing out your blind spots Jas, it is not only the West that creates porn and men in Islamic societies do not seem to be immune to the abuse of women nor do they seem to avoid the sex trade.
I am aware that sex trafficking goes on in other places, though you seem to think Islamic societies cherish women in a way the West does not.
I do not see how my mentioning Eastern European women going to Amsterdam, would make you see that not is all bright, sunny and happy in the women's paradise of Islam?

Jas
08-10-2013, 09:30
Just pointing out your blind spots Jas, it is not only the West that creates porn and men in Islamic societies do not seem to be immune to the abuse of women nor do they seem to avoid the sex trade.
I am aware that sex trafficking goes on in other places, though you seem to think Islamic societies cherish women in a way the West does not.
I do not see how my mentioning Eastern European women going to Amsterdam, would make you see that not is all bright, sunny and happy in the women's paradise of Islam?

If Yemen produces no porn, and Pakistan very little, that doesnt mean women are not raped, forced into marriage as children, abused in the streets and homes, and subject to violence with little or no legal protection. Now where did I tell that WASN'T the case? The thread isn't about women in the Islamic world however, it's about porn's people, yes or no?

Periwinkle
08-10-2013, 09:31
In April we went to Thailand, my girlfriend had to go through a different immigration channel at DMO, as we were flying first to Qatar, the Russian immigration official pretty much called my girlfriend a prostitute for going first to Qatar and then Thailand alone.

When in Samui, on Green Mango Soi, there is only one bar offering the services of non Thai girls, its a Russian bar but my girlfriend did point out that it is not Russian girls working there but Ukrainians and Belarussians :D

Of course it is only Ukrainian and Belorussian girls that work as prostitutes, not Russian......sigh
Many of those Ukrainian girls are ethnic Russians and yes, Russian girls from Russia are pimped as well.
It happens that Ukraine and Belarus are poorer than Russia, and more girls may be likely trafficked from there. Though Russia's population is larger and they may make up a greater percent overall.

Jas
08-10-2013, 09:31
Jaz I'm confused? Do you wish to insult or learn? Do you wish to ask a question and gain insight? Or just give to the forum your opinion regarding your disagreement with porn?

It cud actually be all four depending on who I'm chatting to...

Jas
08-10-2013, 09:36
Of course it is only Ukrainian and Belorussian girls that work as prostitutes, not Russian......sigh
Many of those Ukrainian girls are ethnic Russians and yes, Russian girls from Russia are pimped as well.
It happens that Ukraine and Belarus are poorer than Russia, and more girls may be likely trafficked from there. Though Russia's population is larger and they may make up a greater percent overall.

I find it kind of sick that some custom's guy wud insinuate a Russian woman is a prostitute just cos she was to Dubai or Thailand alone. Er, what's the difference in that from some Pakistani mullah who warns the village that any Pakistani girls from the UK are likely to be whores and shud get treated as so cos we're such a disgrace ......?

Periwinkle
08-10-2013, 09:37
If Yemen produces no porn, and Pakistan very little, that doesnt mean women are not raped, forced into marriage as children, abused in the streets and homes, and subject to violence with little or no legal protection. Now where did I tell that WASN'T the case? The thread isn't about women in the Islamic world however, it's about porn's people, yes or no?

How do you know they do not produce any porn? It would likely be underground due to Islamic laws. Just like the sex trade.
The thread is about Jas, bashing the West for producing porn and dehumanizing women.
I mentioned the huge traffic in women in the Islamic world and the extensive abuse in the UK of girls by Pakistani male gangs. Those guys seems to use common trafficking tactics such as photographing the girls in compromising positions, after plying them with drugs and alcohol. The photos along with beatings and other threats are used as blackmail, to keep the girls compliant.
I guess you would call those photos porn?

Benedikt
08-10-2013, 10:23
As for Russian/Ukrainian/Belarus girls prostituting in Amsterdam, Germany or Prague, personally, I doubt most were forced there at gun point. There is no shortage of willing prostitutes inside Russia; why wouldn't the same girls travel to Amsterdam, Prague or Berlin where they could make more money doing the same thing?

I challenge the idea that every female prostitute is a victim and engaged in the oldest profession against her will.[/QUOTE]

most of them were recruited at -fashion shows-, promised to work as waitresses, nurses and what have you. and once they were in the EU, their passports were taken away and their drama begun.
and the easiest way to -keep them at bay- : we know your family/kid/whatever abck home and if yo uare not willing we kill them...
not done the first time and still going on. despite all the talking, police going to schools and warning the girls. the lure is to big, people are just to poor and of course ALL of them think, I will be carefull, it will not happen to ME...no chance of that...
go check out www.spiegel.de, plenty of stories there.

Jas
08-10-2013, 11:14
Those guys seems to use common trafficking tactics such as photographing the girls in compromising positions, after plying them with drugs and alcohol. The photos along with beatings and other threats are used as blackmail, to keep the girls compliant.
I guess you would call those photos porn?

That's not porn as porn is consensual. Ure really getting crime mixed up with consensual porn. U do of course have terrible aspects to porn also, but its best just to call it what it is... crime, so as not to trivalize it cos porn is such a broad thing.
Btw, there's plenty of Pakistani girls who found out the hard way how guys operate in the UK and in PK itself so it's a bit crazy as to paint this as a plague upon white girls alone. Er, don't we count?

Jas
08-10-2013, 11:18
How do you know they do not produce any porn? It would likely be underground due to Islamic laws.


Ure talking about Yemen, yes? U shud watch Yilda Hakim's report from there 2 months back on the BBC. Yemeni gangs are running *torture camps* where women from east africa are raped and the men get they're organs sold. Beyond sick. But like I told, it doesn't translate into porn. So the most hideous abuse is rampant. But porn seems to be something more associated with a free society.

Benedikt
08-10-2013, 12:49
Ure talking about Yemen, yes? U shud watch Yilda Hakim's report from there 2 months back on the BBC. Yemeni gangs are running *torture camps* where women from east africa are raped and the men get they're organs sold. Beyond sick. But like I told, it doesn't translate into porn. So the most hideous abuse is rampant. But porn seems to be something more associated with a free society.
i thought porn is -pictures/magazines/films and the like? ans hs nothing to do with rape, fornication, pedos and the like as such?
( if it is not shown in pictures that is).
But the same as prohibition did not stop mankiond from drinking, stopping printing films and Playboys will not stop men from raping.

TolkoRaz
08-10-2013, 13:18
Of course it is only Ukrainian and Belorussian girls that work as prostitutes, not Russian......sigh
Many of those Ukrainian girls are ethnic Russians and yes, Russian girls from Russia are pimped as well.
It happens that Ukraine and Belarus are poorer than Russia, and more girls may be likely trafficked from there. Though Russia's population is larger and they may make up a greater percent overall.

The Middle East is awash with Russian prostitutes; the Arabs love them! :book:

Jas
08-10-2013, 13:44
The Middle East is awash with Russian prostitutes; the Arabs love them! :book:

Those kind of people love whatever they can get they're hands on. Men in sex starved societies aren't going to be that fussy, I don't think.

quincy
08-10-2013, 13:51
Those kind of people love whatever they can get they're hands on. Men in sex starved societies aren't going to be that fussy, I don't think.

Men are not as starved of it as you think. There's a huge number of liberated Arab women in the Gulf with spending power, although in public they wear the hijab. Why do you think 'starvation' only applies to men?

Jas
08-10-2013, 13:52
Recently watched a old movie called "The Comfort of Strangers," very freaky couple in Venice who came across as porn's people.

Ok, so what about these people what are doing it not for money? Why? No one has really answered the mystery of porn's people........

Jas
08-10-2013, 13:56
Men are not as starved of it as you think. There's a huge number of liberated Arab women in the Gulf with spending power, although in public they wear the hijab

I dont think anyone in they're right mind wud describe the Gulf as a place where Arab women are liberated in huge numbers. Cousin marriage and virginity checks are still the norm there and freedom to go any place is very limited. Dunno how u got this impression...

TolkoRaz
08-10-2013, 14:25
Jas Sweetheart, Do you fancy watching a porn film together? ;)

Jas
08-10-2013, 14:31
Jas Sweetheart, Do you fancy watching a porn film together? ;)

Only if u hold the bucket for when I puke up, Tolki....

TolkoRaz
08-10-2013, 14:35
I was planning on cooking you dinner after the film! :D

Jas
08-10-2013, 14:41
I was planning on cooking you dinner after the film! :D

Seriously, I once kicked a tv off the table cos of a porn film. I just feel like me innards are twisting somehow like road rage or something. I don't get how that stuff is supposed to be something what personages watch? The world must be full of smashed up tvs cos people just got so angry...

Russian Lad
08-10-2013, 15:14
whisper: Tolko, offer her lesbian porn... Jas, I have never fancied you are so feely-touchy after reading those railway experiences you narrated in your online memoirs in such a vivid fashion...:)

Jas
08-10-2013, 15:20
whisper: Tolko, offer her lesbian porn... Jas, I have never fancied you are so feely-touchy after reading those railway experiences you narrated in your online memoirs in such a vivid fashion...:)

Hi. Cud u leave me alone, please?

Jas
08-10-2013, 15:33
Me and Tolki don't do porn. This is the scene, me and Tolki in a hotel room in West Africa, vodka bottles every place, Tolki just staring at his pistol, me laughing on the bed with fists full of diamonds and in the street below, soldiers are waving machetes and security troops in jeeps tearing thru the markets.
This is the song of this....

Kelli Ali - Ideal - YouTube

Benedikt
08-10-2013, 15:42
Hi. Cud u leave me alone, please?

as simple as that. you start a provocational post and than you start complaining.

Benedikt
08-10-2013, 15:44
me laughing on the bed with fists full of diamonds and in the street below,
and -bottles of vodka all over the palce- the best to loose all inhibitions...

Jas
08-10-2013, 15:46
as simple as that. you start a provocational post and than you start complaining.

Come on, did u actually read the stuff?

TolkoRaz
08-10-2013, 16:00
Me and Tolki don't do porn. This is the scene, me and Tolki in a hotel room in West Africa, vodka bottles every place, Tolki just staring at his pistol, me laughing on the bed with fists full of diamonds and in the street below, soldiers are waving machetes and security troops in jeeps tearing thru the markets.
This is the song of this....

Kelli Ali - Ideal - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJV2i-j7hY0)

:D

Actually the song eerily reminds me of when I had to exit a very large market in Lahore, Pakistan very quickly. Myself and a fellow female colleague were browsing when the hairs went up on the back of my neck, the survival instinct took over - something was wrong. Too much attention was focussing on us, men on mobile phones were circling and surveying - I heard motorbikes running parallel to me.

We got out very swiftly. 20 minutes later, a Westerner was kidnapped! :eek:

There is nothing finer honed and useful than the survival instinct :)

Jas
08-10-2013, 16:10
:D

Actually the song eerily reminds me of when I had to exit a very large market in Lahore, Pakistan very quickly. Myself and a fellow female colleague were browsing when the hairs went up on the back of my neck, the survival instinct took over - something was wrong. Too much attention was focussing on us, men on mobile phones were circling and surveying - I heard motorbikes running parallel to me.

We got out very swiftly. 20 minutes later, a Westerner was kidnapped! :eek:

There is nothing finer honed and useful than the survival instinct :)

C, Tolki, u wud love reading me novels honestly u wud.
Tolki, u shud take me on ure trips cos when its a crisis and things are going mental, the only one likely to be ok is me and stuff.
Like when I was in a train crash in Pakistan and just walked out of all the wreckage like it was nothing. I walked off from 2 car crashes also. It can be chaos, stress, all people falling apart, but u cud count on me cos I dont handle extreme bad stuff like other people... I am always totally cool.
On the bad side though, very very small stuff like a yappy dog, or a dripping tap, or small repetitive noise like tapping just flips me out.
Still, I cud do all the dangerous stuff anyhow...

TolkoRaz
08-10-2013, 16:38
Don't worry about dripping taps, I only stay in 5* hotels with fully serviceable taps or in the desert where there is no running water! ;)

BTW, when in Islamabad I stayed in the Serena at the back of the Marriott which has been attacked 3 times!

And in Lahore, the Pearl Continental of course! :) They have a fantastic 1920's Rolls Royce inside the lobby - have you seen it?

Jas
08-10-2013, 16:39
This is the music of the last part of the movie where Tolki walks away from everything cos he's so disgusted with it....

Moby feat. Patti Labelle - One Of These Mornings (Miami Vice soundtrack) - YouTube

TolkoRaz
08-10-2013, 16:57
Should that song not be dedicated to disappeared Yak? ;)

BTW, not the most imaginative of lyrics! :D

TolkoRaz
08-10-2013, 17:04
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Russian Lad
08-10-2013, 17:56
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Benedikt
08-10-2013, 17:59
Come on, did u actually read the stuff?

because your =stuff= as you call it yourself is to longwinded.:groan:

Jas
08-10-2013, 21:07
Don't worry about dripping taps, I only stay in 5* hotels with fully serviceable taps or in the desert where there is no running water! ;)

BTW, when in Islamabad I stayed in the Serena at the back of the Marriott which has been attacked 3 times!

And in Lahore, the Pearl Continental of course! :) They have a fantastic 1920's Rolls Royce inside the lobby - have you seen it?

Tolki, I never actually stayed in any hotels in ISB-Rawalapindi cos me mum has relatives there, but I do know the Pearl cos u get all kinds of conferences going on there on quite interesting stuff and its always getting advertised.
Yes, I remember the Marriot attack and seeing it on tv, like a big hole in the ground and the whole front of the hotel dripping flames. U just wonder... what's in the heads of these people? It was about a year after the army took out Lal Masjid in ISB and I think Marriot was the reply cos of General Musharaf doing the crackdown.
Btw, if ure in Karachi, there's a Pearl also. Ask for Railway Colony.

Jas
08-10-2013, 21:13
because your =stuff= as you call it yourself is to longwinded.:groan:

Er, no its not. It's great. U shud be grateful for all me work, thanks.

TolkoRaz
08-10-2013, 22:37
Tolki, I never actually stayed in any hotels in ISB-Rawalapindi cos me mum has relatives there, but I do know the Pearl cos u get all kinds of conferences going on there on quite interesting stuff and its always getting advertised.
Yes, I remember the Marriot attack and seeing it on tv, like a big hole in the ground and the whole front of the hotel dripping flames. U just wonder... what's in the heads of these people? It was about a year after the army took out Lal Masjid in ISB and I think Marriot was the reply cos of General Musharaf doing the crackdown.
Btw, if ure in Karachi, there's a Pearl also. Ask for Railway Colony.

The Pearl Continental in Peshawar was blown up a few years back - this time, I was not in it! :)

FYI, the ISB Marriott has been attacked 3 times! But the largest attack is the one you refer to - I was there 2 days after the lorry full of bricks blew a huge hole in the ground and set the building alight - the explosion also severed the fire sprinkler lines which made the situation worse!