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jonotomoscow
25-10-2007, 07:20
hi guys,
i will be arriving in Moscow in the next 2 weeks, i have a job as a chef in a Restaurant, and they are paying for accom. and utilities, so apart from these, what would be the average living cost, for going out and having fun etc?

米乐龙
25-10-2007, 07:52
as much as you earn.

Guest
25-10-2007, 08:59
There are a few threads about this already. And the reply anyway depends of what's your style of living! You may spend between $1.000 and $50.000, probably more, I never tried:shame:

Rustralian
25-10-2007, 13:43
The costs are like in any city, they will depend on what you like to do and what you would spend. Do you drink beer or spirts or cocktails or wine (or all of them at the same time), do you like fine dining or a snack on the run.

The prices in Moscow will not be any different from Sydney for drinks - most probably a bit cheaper than many of the clubs in Sydney but the same or more than some of the Pubs.

Taxi fare is much much cheaper and the use of the Metro is very cheap, and while it does not go all night, it starts early for those very late nights out.

Food prices vary from good and cheap to insanely expensive, but over here most places you go to (Clubs and Pubs) will have food and alcohol and entertainment (you can pretty much always get substantial food where you drink and for as long as the place is open).

McDonalds seems dearer than Australia - I have only tried it once or twice in a couple of years but don't remember it being any great price.

Other things like Health Clubs will most probably be dearer than Sydney and other lesiure activities you do will depend on what they are.

Where will you be working as a chef, maybe people can call past and try out the specialities and set up a Poll to rate you.

And for night time fun, there are no sheep wearing wellies in Moscow, so you will have to settle for leggy Russian ladies with FMB's. :wavey:

SalTheReturn
25-10-2007, 15:17
hi guys,
i will be arriving in Moscow in the next 2 weeks, i have a job as a chef in a Restaurant, and they are paying for accom. and utilities, so apart from these, what would be the average living cost, for going out and having fun etc?

I interviewed couple of italian chefs in Moscow

their salary was around 6000dollars per month for working at top establishments like hotel renaissance and casino astoria

pinoy_counsel
17-11-2007, 19:53
Hello everyone. I'm new here. I just received an offer for a job in a Russian company. I intend to bring my wife and 2 kids (aged 3 years, and 8 months). What is the cost range of a decent apartment to accommodate us? What is the cost range of utilities and grocery? How about schooling for toddlers of expats?

Would really appreciate any information.

Thanks!

vox16
23-11-2007, 22:30
Hello everyone. I'm new here. I just received an offer for a job in a Russian company. I intend to bring my wife and 2 kids (aged 3 years, and 8 months). What is the cost range of a decent apartment to accommodate us? What is the cost range of utilities and grocery? How about schooling for toddlers of expats?

Would really appreciate any information.
Thanks!

It depends on location and degree of 'decency', about $1.5k - $2k for something about 80sq 3-room (2-bedroom) in about 7-10km from kremlin. Cost of utilities = zero comparing to rent cost, about $100 if is not already included in rent. Schooling for expat toddlers = english-speaking personnel? Babysitter? I really have no idea. But for private kindergarten I would consider a ballpark figure of $500/mo.

pinoy_counsel
24-11-2007, 19:54
Vox16,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the information. The office is located at the Radisson Slavanskaya Hotel near the Kiev Train Station. Any idea as to the cost of apartments here?

SalTheReturn
24-11-2007, 20:35
Vox16,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the information. The office is located at the Radisson Slavanskaya Hotel near the Kiev Train Station. Any idea as to the cost of apartments here?

dunno but sounds like well beyond the 1.5/2 bucks a month range

good luck

vox16
25-11-2007, 11:46
The office is located at the Radisson Slavanskaya Hotel near the Kiev Train Station. Any idea as to the cost of apartments here?

About $2.5-3.5K (and more? ).
Take a look at : - (http://www.cian.ru/search.php?flats=yes) ( cian.ru), select kievskaya, studensheckaya and kutuzovskaya ( and maybe Smolenskaya and Arbatskaya ) and do search.
If you can consider 30-40 min commute, add stations on bottom red line upto Universitet.

jonotomoscow
12-02-2011, 03:32
bump

sunnyriddle
21-02-2011, 04:27
Be ready Moscow is the 2d world most expensive city after Tokyo by international company research. Possible to spend not much but then not good quality of goods, appartments,.. Better to find by internet sites of real estate agencies, restaurants,.. to see prices

reexpat
21-02-2011, 23:18
It depends on location and degree of 'decency', about $1.5k - $2k for something about 80sq 3-room (2-bedroom) in about 7-10km from kremlin. Cost of utilities = zero comparing to rent cost, about $100 if is not already included in rent. Schooling for expat toddlers = english-speaking personnel? Babysitter? I really have no idea. But for private kindergarten I would consider a ballpark figure of $500/mo.

Kindergarten in english will be much more than $500 a month more like $2000. English speaking nannys are easy to find for $1000-1500.

Groceries depends on what you eat and how much you are willing to adjust your diet. Most meat, bread, and milk products are cheap. Canned and packaged food maybe 30-50% more. Fruits and veggies out of season up to 500% more. $20 for a box of raspberries, $50 for a bag of cherries etc.

alouette
27-02-2011, 01:21
Be ready Moscow is the 2d world most expensive city after Tokyo by international company research. Possible to spend not much but then not good quality of goods, appartments,.. Better to find by internet sites of real estate agencies, restaurants,.. to see prices

YR

svelt
02-05-2011, 19:45
Be ready Moscow is the 2d world most expensive city after Tokyo by international company research. Possible to spend not much but then not good quality of goods, appartments,.. Better to find by internet sites of real estate agencies, restaurants,.. to see prices

and if you believe that b****x about second most expensive good luck to you.

Moscow is NOT the second third or fourth or effing whatever most expensive city in the world by ANY research.
Moskva IS ONLY an expensive city when measured against a basket of services and goods as supplied exclusively to expats which are in positions that are easily measured. ie. embassy staff expecting the same peanut butter they get in omaha..
there are ~circa 12 million people in mosko (yes the number is debatable) and most of them eat, drink and make merry daily. it is totally possible to live here on a realistic, nae low, budget.

Never believe this absolute b/s about this place being super expensive, it isnt.


oh and for any of you jonny come latelies who think you know better, and love to comment here with all your deep knowledge, i been here over 17 years and like the many other long time expats in this country i don't need your newcomer advice. i remember bread queues, no meat, no milk and all the rest of it.

there that should fire some action into an old thread.....troll troll troll troll

heatherph
17-07-2011, 16:13
To ask this question slightly differently, I wonder if people care to say how well you could live on $1000 USD (so at current rate I guess 28000 rubles) a month in Moscow - AFTER rent - that is, the 28000 rubles is on top of rent payment. What would you need to do to live off this money?

ilya25
17-07-2011, 21:47
To ask this question slightly differently, I wonder if people care to say how well you could live on $1000 USD (so at current rate I guess 28000 rubles) a month in Moscow - AFTER rent - that is, the 28000 rubles is on top of rent payment. What would you need to do to live off this money?

i guess you can ocasionallly dine out and don't save on food

alouette
18-07-2011, 21:17
To ask this question slightly differently, I wonder if people care to say how well you could live on $1000 USD (so at current rate I guess 28000 rubles) a month in Moscow - AFTER rent - that is, the 28000 rubles is on top of rent payment. What would you need to do to live off this money?

You can survive but you have to be very careful on your spending. To dine out, to going out? Depends on the place.
If you are on your own, you, probably will be able to manage but having a family..., forget it.

BabyFirefly
25-07-2011, 19:37
Without including rent, $1000 a month goes a long way. At least that's what I live on. I mean, you won't have much leftover funds left, but you'll be okay... just avoid expensive places, clubs, etc. This if you're single. With kids... hah, never.