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Jas
23-08-2012, 15:40
i think there's male-dominated and there's macho.
I don't think Russia is male-dominated, but I do think it's macho.
I remember at Kazanksy Vakhzal seeing these young Russian soldiers in sun glasses and striped paratroop tops and I thought...... that's a kind of macho bravado that you don't really see in the Uk.

Now if it's more macho than the west... why don't more straight women come here?

Before u all think I got it rong, I am working on the assumption that straight women want macho men. Do they? I think they do.... though not in every case of course!
I like walking on the Volga with my partner's relative who is a paratrooper and it's like strolling with a panther on a leash.
If I was famous and stuff or a President of a country- I wud surround meself with hard guys like that. Anyone steps to close and- ka-baaahm- karate chop.


This video reminds me of me time in the Thai kick boxing club with me trainer.

Nina Zilli - L'Uomo Che Amava Le Donne (video ufficiale) - YouTube

TolkoRaz
23-08-2012, 16:21
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Russian Airborne Troops (VDV) Music Video - YouTube

Jas
23-08-2012, 16:32
Very good Tolki, this is what I mean and stuff. If I am the President of Pakistan, like for fun if we imagine, who wud I trust?
Answer is no one of course. Everyone wud be plotting to kill me, to trick me, and all these plots wud be terrible. I wud just trust no one. This is where u wud have to use ure head to survive.
I wud have around me like this.... closest wud be personages from me own sect. Next would be personages from me own ethnic group. But closest to me wud be Russian paratroopers like what u posted. They wud guard me bedroom door, drive me, taste food even, surround me at all times, I wud have Russian snipers also.
I wud go to America also in a fleet of black limos flashing red lights and the pk flag fluttering on the wings as we sweep down pencilvenia avenue to the capitol hill- with these guys as me security. All the Americans and press wud just look and look and be awed as such.
Reporters wud tell like this, "President Jasmine of Pakistan is now cruising to the White House. Armed with her elite unit of Russian paratroopers, she is likely to force America agree to all Pakistani demands- no iffs or butts."
Bottom line and stuff, if u get power in a place like Pakistan, only way u can keep it is like this and if u lose it- then ure in ure death shroud ofcourse.
I think even if I was just famous as a writer I wud hire just 3 of these guys.
I wud just walk any place I wanted and all wud be under control.

Russian Lad
23-08-2012, 16:44
I am working on the assumption that straight women want macho men. Do they?

Straight women want financial security and a future for their children much more than they want macho men.
TolkoRaz, you really watch that artificial crap? Come on. Street life is much more cruel and entertaining (in any counry I should say:)):

”€ака на ножа… на Ули†е - YouTube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=B1ebRX38vSc

Jas
23-08-2012, 16:51
Straight women want financial security and a future for their children much more than they want macho men.


I don't know what straight women want but why wud they want anything other than characteristics I like in women: protective,physically strong, tough, intelligent etc?

Er, why wud it be different if they have a right to choose?

penka
23-08-2012, 16:57
Macho is a dirty word for me. Besides, being macho is much easier than being a man.

As for the paratroopers... Well, if they are efficient enough, keeping order, why not. Policeman, patrolling Heathrow with Glocks are far more an unsettling view, I think.

TolkoRaz
23-08-2012, 17:03
Straight women want financial security and a future for their children much more than they want macho men.
TolkoRaz, you really watch that artificial crap? Come on. Street life is much more cruel and entertaining (in any counry I should say:)):

Драка на ножах на Улице - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP0pfzvq_2I)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=B1ebRX38vSc

LOL! :D I think they had lost their handbags! ;)

Jas
23-08-2012, 17:04
See, I believe people look for physical perfection as such. So straight women wud want the male equivelant of this I think. That wud be as an ideal and stuff. Straight women wud have their own male version. So Russianlad, I don't think u got it right. Where can they find that? Er, here in Russia cos it's got that kind of macho culture.

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TolkoRaz
23-08-2012, 17:05
Very good Tolki, this is what I mean and stuff. If I am the President of Pakistan, like for fun if we imagine, who wud I trust?
Answer is no one of course. Everyone wud be plotting to kill me, to trick me, and all these plots wud be terrible. I wud just trust no one. This is where u wud have to use ure head to survive.
I wud have around me like this.... closest wud be personages from me own sect. Next would be personages from me own ethnic group. But closest to me wud be Russian paratroopers like what u posted. They wud guard me bedroom door, drive me, taste food even, surround me at all times, I wud have Russian snipers also.
I wud go to America also in a fleet of black limos flashing red lights and the pk flag fluttering on the wings as we sweep down pencilvenia avenue to the capitol hill- with these guys as me security. All the Americans and press wud just look and look and be awed as such.
Reporters wud tell like this, "President Jasmine of Pakistan is now cruising to the White House. Armed with her elite unit of Russian paratroopers, she is likely to force America agree to all Pakistani demands- no iffs or butts."
Bottom line and stuff, if u get power in a place like Pakistan, only way u can keep it is like this and if u lose it- then ure in ure death shroud ofcourse.
I think even if I was just famous as a writer I wud hire just 3 of these guys.
I wud just walk any place I wanted and all wud be under control.

This is what you need! ;)

SUV's in the Presidential or VIP motorcades - YouTube

Potty
23-08-2012, 17:08
In Russia every man will be taken. Of any type and any salary. There is no sense to be a macho. Though in metro I see sometimes guys with a funny way of walk, wearing cheap chain bracelet and making funny weird masculine motions. :12115:I have no idea where they got this from, but I guess they have their audience :iloveyou:

TolkoRaz
23-08-2012, 17:09
In Russia every man will be taken. Of any type and any salary. There is no sense to be a macho. Though in metro I see sometimes guys with a funny way of walk, wearing cheap chain bracelet and making funny weird masculine motions. :12115:I have no idea where they got this from, but I guess they have their audience :iloveyou:

It is called 'not making yourself a victim'! ;)

penka
23-08-2012, 17:22
In Russia every man will be taken. Of any type and any salary. There is no sense to be a macho. Though in metro I see sometimes guys with a funny way of walk, wearing cheap chain bracelet and making funny weird masculine motions. :12115:I have no idea where they got this from, but I guess they have their audience :iloveyou:


"in Russia every man will be taken". I beg you pardon, WHAT? Are you claiming, all women are that desperate here?

Russian Lad
23-08-2012, 17:25
protective,physically strong, tough, intelligent etc?

Physically strong and intelligent, it is an extremely rare combination. One goes hard either way or remains average.:))

TolkoRaz
23-08-2012, 17:26
Some men are taken by more than one woman! :eek:

TolkoRaz
23-08-2012, 17:27
Physically strong and intelligent, it is an extremely rare combination. One goes hard either way or remains average.:))

Speak for yourself, little man! :p

Russian Lad
23-08-2012, 17:32
Physically strong and intelligent, it is an extremely rare combination. One goes hard either way or remains average.)
Speak for yourself, little man!

Yes, I am a rare one.//:devilish:

Jas
23-08-2012, 17:35
In Russia every man will be taken.:

My partner's cousin is a very tall and handsome young man of 23 and he doesn't have a girlfriend! He finished university and just sort of hangs out around town and visiting me with bags of free food. So why can't he find a girlfriend if it's so easy?

Potty
23-08-2012, 17:53
Are you claiming, all women are that desperate here?

Hmm...Yep.

Potty
23-08-2012, 17:54
My partner's cousin is a very tall and handsome young man of 23 and he doesn't have a girlfriend! He finished university and just sort of hangs out around town and visiting me with bags of free food. So why can't he find a girlfriend if it's so easy?

once he finds somebody he will never stop.

BabyFirefly
23-08-2012, 19:14
Not really, I think it's a stereotype.

penka
23-08-2012, 19:25
Hmm...Yep.

Potty, you are clearly associating with a wrong gang.

Korotky Gennady
23-08-2012, 20:12
In Russia every man will be taken. Of any type and any salary. There is no sense to be a macho.
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Yeah, don't be afraid to be who you really are. http://www.gumilev-center.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8.jpg

BabyFirefly
23-08-2012, 20:34
Hmm...Yep.

Every Russian female between the ages of 18-23 actually claims to want no husband (ever) or boyfriend (just something casual, to date, to have fun, nothing serious). Whether this is some sort of change in Russian culture or just a phase, I don't know.

Russian Lad
23-08-2012, 20:37
So why can't he find a girlfriend if it's so easy?

Bet he is either as poor as a church rat or overly selective. It would be the answer to your question.

penka
23-08-2012, 20:42
Every Russian female between the ages of 18-23 actually claims to want no husband (ever) or boyfriend (just something casual, to date, to have fun, nothing serious). Whether this is some sort of change in Russian culture or just a phase, I don't know.

If that is true, that is, indeed, insane. Any dignity left???

BabyFirefly
23-08-2012, 20:49
If that is true, that is, indeed, insane. Any dignity left???

Dignity? I think dignity is when women actually STOP being desperate and start dating/marrying guys they actually want, care for, etc... not because it's the expected thing to do. I'm glad to see they're being a bit selfish now.

Potty
23-08-2012, 20:57
My granma has always said: "I takogo podberut" and "Hot' i der'mo, zato svoe". I don't know how to translate it in English. And it is not something she made up. What happens in Moscow doesn't reflect the situation in entire Russia. I am telling you the truth.

penka
23-08-2012, 21:12
My granma has always said: "I takogo podberut" and "Hot' i der'mo, zato svoe". I don't know how to translate it in English. And it is not something she made up. What happens in Moscow doesn't reflect the situation in entire Russia. I am telling you the truth.

I feel sorry for this mentality of yours. Really.

Potty
23-08-2012, 22:16
I feel sorry for this mentality of yours. Really.

why? I am ok with this "mentality" :D

Jas
23-08-2012, 22:19
Bet he is either as poor as a church rat or overly selective. It would be the answer to your question.

I dunno cos why wud he need to be rich if he's only 23? What's money if it's just dating and having fun. And his mum wud give him money if he needed it.
I think it's another.... he's quiet and decent.

penka
23-08-2012, 22:21
why? I am ok with this "mentality" :D

Even sadder, then.

bydand
23-08-2012, 23:52
A now deceased idol of mine, Mr. John Cooper, a macho man himself, posed the question; what is macho?

It's hard to define, like pornography, but certainly not just an attitude or posturing.

He read that a President of a South American country (I forget which) was assaulted by the press when a paratrooper died because his parachute did not open. The President went to the military base in question, picked out a parachute at random, and jumped out of a plane with it. He concluded that is macho.

Is putting your life at risk for what you believe in macho? No fear sounds stupid and dangerous to me. One has to know what is at stake, and the risks involved, and believe one is correct, no matter the consequences.

I know a girl who fell in love with (and married) a man who punched out a drunk in a bar who was accosting her. He later fell off a cliff, and broke his neck. Is that macho?

What is macho?