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natlee
26-10-2011, 18:04
Out of curiosity, why are you (expats) here in Russia? What brought you here in the first place and why have you stayed? Thanks :)

moscowmail
26-10-2011, 18:35
Out of curiosity, why are you (expats) here in Russia? What brought you here in the first place and why have you stayed? Thanks :)

I am a serial expat, over 20 years as one, sent to Russia because guy who was supposed to come broken his leg

When I saw that the bears were NOT on the streets, and that the ladies didn't actually shave everyday (their faces of course), and then visited Night flite, The original Chesterfields.. well felt like heaven

Then saw the biz potential, fell in love, 54 times in one day ahhh so nice to be single then, and kinda just stayed..

Love the Russians, the culture, the countryside, the regions, the architecture, hate the pollution, the traffic and the corruption

Matvisin
26-10-2011, 19:40
My hubby's job brought me here.:10641:

natlee
26-10-2011, 19:49
My hubby's job brought me here.:10641: lol I feel your pain, my ex-hubby's job brought me to a foreign country once too. By the time I got used to the place it was time to leave :D

TolkoRaz
27-10-2011, 04:23
lol I feel your pain, my ex-hubby's job brought me to a foreign country once too. By the time I got used to the place it was time to leave :D

Him or the foreign land? ;)

robertmf
27-10-2011, 05:28
Him or the foreign land? ;)

**snicker** :trampoline: You're bad :nut:

natlee
27-10-2011, 12:25
Him or the foreign land? ;) :D A bit of both ;)

Parco
27-10-2011, 12:38
11 years ago, it was somewhere different where people didn't travel to for a holiday, except for guided tours round the Kremlin. It was love at first sight with the city (not a girl) and I kept coming back every month for a long weekend. Cheap flights were possible because I worked for an airline. After 5 years of doing this, I decided to emigrate out here and have been living here, off and on for 6 years now and I wish to stay forever ...if Russia will let me.

SV1973a
27-10-2011, 12:39
Out of curiosity, why are you (expats) here in Russia? What brought you here in the first place and why have you stayed? Thanks :)

Punishment.

natlee
27-10-2011, 12:44
11 years ago, it was somewhere different where people didn't travel to for a holiday, except for guided tours round the Kremlin. It was love at first sight with the city (not a girl) and I kept coming back every month for a long weekend. Cheap flights were possible because I worked for an airline. After 5 years of doing this, I decided to emigrate out here and have been living here, off and on for 6 years now and I wish to stay forever ...if Russia will let me. Awww... truly!

natlee
27-10-2011, 12:44
Punishment. Hmmm... :)

SV1973a
27-10-2011, 12:49
Hmmm... :)

I`ve done 3,5 years already. 1,5 years to go.

L'oiseau bleu
27-10-2011, 12:51
I`ve done 3,5 years already. 1,5 years to go.

there is no release for good behavior?

natlee
27-10-2011, 12:51
I`ve done 3,5 years already. 1,5 years to go. Ok now you're scaring me... oh wait, but we know you travel, so phew :)

SV1973a
27-10-2011, 13:00
there is no release for good behavior?

As you know from the thread `has living in Russia changed you`, you should know that I do not qualify for good behaviour.

natlee
27-10-2011, 13:23
As you know from the thread `has living in Russia changed you`, you should know that I do not qualify for good behaviour. good one!

andymackem
27-10-2011, 14:17
Hmm ... so many answers to this, from the pompous and pretentious to the utterly prosaic.

The one which gets the best response from most audiences is to blame my mother. Not because of any Russian ancestry or anything like that. However, while pregnant with me she hit upon the bright idea of reading up the collected works of Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. I was even named Andrew because she was particularly struck by Prince Andrei in War and Peace (my sister, Emma, has Jane Austen to thank). Inevitably, therefore, I grew up to be a moody, tortured soul with a masochistic leaning towards this mysterious country. What choice did I have?

Well, obviously, quite a few. More realistically, I liked the mystery that surrounded the place in the 80s and the weird juxtaposition of seeing the Red Army march past a grey phalanx of men in suits on top of the mausoleum each year (we didn't get a lot of TV coverage of the USSR on the news) ... only to trot off towards the absurdly gaudy joie-de-vivre of St Basil's. I became interested in Russian music (and even Russian literature, though I prefer Bulgakov to the C19th stuff) and had a stab at learning the language while I was at school. That got me on a couple of exchange trips between 1990 and 1992 - interesting times, even though aged 14-16 I wasn't really able to take in much of what was going on.

And so to uni, post-grad and the spirit-sucking world of work. Approaching 30 I took a month to travel across Siberia and, on hearing of voluntary redundancies at my job, took the pay-off, did a CELTA and came over in Sep. 2006 to teach EFL. Yep, that old cliche. Planned a one-year career break, five years ago. Still here. Drives me nuts at times, but I like living here. Most of all I'm happy that I still feel a bit like a tourist: in Moscow I make the effort to do stuff with my free time, because it feels like I won't be here for long. In England I tended to assume I could do it tomorrow and never really did.

Will I stay forever? No, probably not. But I suspect I'll be moving on to a different country rather than returning home. Maybe somewhere warmer next, though :)

natlee
27-10-2011, 14:24
Hmm ... so many answers to this, from the pompous and pretentious to the utterly prosaic.

The one which gets the best response from most audiences is to blame my mother. Not because of any Russian ancestry or anything like that. However, while pregnant with me she hit upon the bright idea of reading up the collected works of Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. I was even named Andrew because she was particularly struck by Prince Andrei in War and Peace (my sister, Emma, has Jane Austen to thank). Inevitably, therefore, I grew up to be a moody, tortured soul with a masochistic leaning towards this mysterious country. What choice did I have?

Well, obviously, quite a few. More realistically, I liked the mystery that surrounded the place in the 80s and the weird juxtaposition of seeing the Red Army march past a grey phalanx of men in suits on top of the mausoleum each year (we didn't get a lot of TV coverage of the USSR on the news) ... only to trot off towards the absurdly gaudy joie-de-vivre of St Basil's. I became interested in Russian music (and even Russian literature, though I prefer Bulgakov to the C19th stuff) and had a stab at learning the language while I was at school. That got me on a couple of exchange trips between 1990 and 1992 - interesting times, even though aged 14-16 I wasn't really able to take in much of what was going on.

And so to uni, post-grad and the spirit-sucking world of work. Approaching 30 I took a month to travel across Siberia and, on hearing of voluntary redundancies at my job, took the pay-off, did a CELTA and came over in Sep. 2006 to teach EFL. Yep, that old cliche. Planned a one-year career break, five years ago. Still here. Drives me nuts at times, but I like living here. Most of all I'm happy that I still feel a bit like a tourist: in Moscow I make the effort to do stuff with my free time, because it feels like I won't be here for long. In England I tended to assume I could do it tomorrow and never really did.

Will I stay forever? No, probably not. But I suspect I'll be moving on to a different country rather than returning home. Maybe somewhere warmer next, though :) Great story Andy! Oh and do I assume I can do things and see places here tomorrow! ;)

Parco
27-10-2011, 14:34
Great story Andy! Oh and do I assume I can do things and see places here tomorrow! ;)

Me too ...I went to my first museum/tourist place (the Tretyakovskiy Gallery) here in 11 years. Thought it was about time I saw something cultural beyond pubs, bars, clubs and the metro. :shame:

natlee
27-10-2011, 14:43
Me too ...I went to my first museum/tourist place (the Tretyakovskiy Gallery) here in 11 years. Thought it was about time I saw something cultural beyond pubs, bars, clubs and the metro. :shame: lol!

natlee
27-10-2011, 14:45
My (on/off) bf who's been here many times is dying to see them all, but I'm lazy :shame: I HAVE taken him to see them Faberge eggs which I'm verrry proud of :D He should be coming back beginning of Dec for a while, anyone care to show the (English) guy a bit of Moscow? Boys, preferrably :p

Parco
27-10-2011, 14:55
He should be coming back beginning of Dec for a while, anyone care to show the (English) guy a bit of Moscow? Boys, preferrably :p

I would some other time, but in December I'm back in the UK ..boo hoo! Don't want to go [sulks].

Rozit
27-10-2011, 15:24
anyone care to show the (English) guy a bit of Moscow? Boys, preferrably :p
I want to show you Moscow! Can I?
My photo is here (http://vkontakte.ru/rozitsv)

mds45
27-10-2011, 15:42
Me too ...I went to my first museum/tourist place (the Tretyakovskiy Gallery) here in 11 years. Thought it was about time I saw something cultural beyond pubs, bars, clubs and the metro. :shame:

Shame on you Parco - what have you been doing for 11 years ??? or shouldn't I ask :-)

natlee
27-10-2011, 17:44
I want to show you Moscow! Can I?
My photo is here (http://vkontakte.ru/rozitsv) I'll fwd to my bf, thanks, and he can show you his :D (Sorry for my childish humor :D)

SV1973a
27-10-2011, 18:25
I'll fwd to my bf, thanks, and he can show you his :D (Sorry for my childish humor :D)

Great, while rozit and your bf are out visiting Moscow, I see no reason why you and I shoudn`t go out.
Oh wait, I just remembered.

natlee
27-10-2011, 18:28
Great, while rozit and your bf are out visiting Moscow, I see no reason why you and I shoudn`t go out.
Oh wait, I just remembered. Hahahahaha

natlee
27-10-2011, 18:29
I would some other time, but in December I'm back in the UK ..boo hoo! Don't want to go [sulks]. When are you back? He should be here Jan, too, and possibly some of Feb... unless he pisses me off earlier, that is :D

inorcist
28-10-2011, 00:03
The only true and honest answer I can give to this question is:
почему бы и нет?

justbe
28-10-2011, 14:14
The only true and honest answer I can give to this question is:
почему бы и нет?

The answer could be 42 as well!

quincy
28-10-2011, 14:40
why are you (expats) here in Russia? What brought you here in the first place and why have you stayed?

your question sounds more like "what the hell are you doing here", or maybe even "a normal person wouldn't want to be here"

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 14:41
The answer could be 42 as well!

Yes, but do you know what other important questions `42` is the answer to as well ?

natlee
28-10-2011, 14:56
your question sounds more like "what the hell are you doing here", or maybe even "a normal person wouldn't want to be here" Er um thanks for sharing :)

inorcist
28-10-2011, 15:16
Yes, but do you know what other important questions `42` is the answer to as well ?

The day I'll leave Russia for good I'll write a goodbye note: 'So long, and thanks for all the vodka and caviar'

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 15:27
Exactly.

Sounds like a perfectly normal question to me.

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 15:33
And we all know how you feel...

Well, actually, I have not yet switched on `Russian mode`.
But still it is totally innocent question originating from her sincere interest in `why people are here`.

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 15:58
When do you switch to "Russian mode"? And what exactly is "Russian mode"?

`Russian mode` is the behavioural module that I can switch on at will whenever there is a goal to be reached, but unfortunately, other people are hindering me from obtaining this goal.
Other people may be : Turkish hotel staff, Chinese tourists, ... , and last time a US business man (who was in the Swiss Air business lounge with me, when we all had to return to check in because our flight had been cancelled. He started making a fuss, whining to the Swiss Air girl in the lounge, demanding to talk to her supervisor on the phone, and thus keeping the phone busy so that nobody could call the lounge to give further instructions. Eventually we all returned to check in, and when I asked something in Russian to the check in girl that was busy dealing with the angry US business man, he turned to me and said agressively `Excuse me, I am talking here`. I told him to p*ss off, and continued talking to the girl. I told her in Russian that the US business man had been making a lot of noise and said a lot of unpleasant things to her collegue in the lounge, so to better make him wait a little longer to cool down a bit. The check in girl understood the situation and told him to go to the other line to check in, where he was now standing last. Then I said : look I was here very early in the morning, and now I end up last in line. Where is the justice in that? Is there nothing you can do for me please ?
She smiled, took my passport and told me to wait. Came back in five minutes and escorted me to the first place in the line.
This all happened 3 weeks ago, and last week when I returned from yet another flight, I recognised the girl that had helped me. I gave her a box of chocolotes that I had bought in Vienna to thank her.)
Usually I switch to `Russian mode` when there is no other solution, or where the other solution would take to long.

justbe
28-10-2011, 16:16
Yes, but do you know what other important questions `42` is the answer to as well ?

The answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything, sir! :1306:

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 16:21
The answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything, sir! :1306:

Very very very good !!!
And how was this answer obtained ?

justbe
28-10-2011, 16:31
Very very very good !!!
And how was this answer obtained ?

You mean by me? Reading a book, real book that everyone can touch and page through. Not googled it to death.

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 16:36
You mean by me? Reading a book, real book that everyone can touch and page through. Not googled it to death.

Did you like the book ?
Honestly speaking, I expected more of it.

justbe
28-10-2011, 16:39
Did you like the book ?
Honestly speaking, I expected more of it.

I did it when i was 18 and liked it very much. Since that time i keep thinking the same.

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 16:44
I did it when i was 18 and liked it very much. Since that time i keep thinking the same.

You keep thinking what ?
That humans are only the third intelligent species on this planet ?
After white mice and dolphins ?

TolkoRaz
28-10-2011, 16:48
White Mice are far more intelligent than some humans I have had the misfortune to meet! ;)

justbe
28-10-2011, 16:50
White Mice are far more intelligent than some humans I have had the misfortune to meet! ;)

What are they doing here i dare to ask?

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 16:52
What are they doing here i dare to ask?

They are conducting a major laboratory experiment an a planetory schale on us humans.

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 17:40
What is a schale?

scale ?

xSnoofovich
28-10-2011, 17:45
....

urshulgi
28-10-2011, 20:45
I came here because I didn't think oil and gas expats were being mugged enough. I'm working to rectify that, one person at a time.

robertmf
28-10-2011, 21:12
White Mice are far more intelligent than some humans I have had the misfortune to meet! ;)

Have you seen the movie "The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy" :question:

SV1973a
28-10-2011, 21:16
Have you seen the movie "The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy" :question:



No, I have read the book. I don`t know if the film follows the story of the book closely.

I once read `Forrest Gump` and there were quite some parts that did not feature in the film and vice versa.

FatAndy
28-10-2011, 21:17
....

Said strong, agree... :D

robertmf
28-10-2011, 21:28
I came here because I didn't think oil and gas expats were being mugged enough. I'm working to rectify that, one person at a time.

I came here because I didn't think the government were being mugged enough. I'm working to rectify that, one person at a time.

HHGTG is one of the best fun movies I've ever seen. That and Willis|Jovovich Fifth Dimension.

robertmf
28-10-2011, 21:58
What are they doing here i dare to ask?

There is a line of thought witch ..er.. haha Halloween which thinks mice & dolphins are god and smarter than bi-peds.

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