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Len Ganley Stance
02-08-2007, 15:05
This is from Sky Sports.

It would seem that reading this article that Fernando Torres is not a good a player as Manchester United reject, Diego Forlan. But what the hell, it's all just a bunch of meaningless stats. Or is it? Time will tell whether or not Torres will live up to his reputation in the Premiership or if he'll do a Morientes and be a flop.

Torres v Forlan

When Fernando Torres decided to leave Atletico Madrid after another disappointing season, many fans took to the streets and protested against the decision of letting a player depart who had spent all his football life at the club.

"El Niсo" had been at the Vicente Calderon since he was 11 and made his debut at 17. His qualities attracted the attention of all Europe's top clubs, but he never wanted to leave until this summer. In the years when he was wearing the famous red and white shirt, Atleti have won just one Segunda Division title in 2001/02, not enough for a "wonder kid".

But after the tears have dried, fans and club were left counting the cash and they realised it was not bad business. They have already signed Simao from Benfica, Luis Garcia from Liverpool, Christian Abbiati from Milan, Raul Garcia from Osasuna and Diego Forlan from Villarreal.

The latest news is that Arsenal's Jose Antonio Reyes will be making the short trip from the Bernabeu, although the fact he scored the two decisive goals to give Real the title will not be easy to forget for Atletico's passionate fans.

Of all the new signings, probably the smartest has been Diego Forlan. Since his arrival in La Liga, the Uruguayan striker has really hit form and in three seasons with the Yellow Submarines he scored 54 goals in 106 games, helping the small team near Valencia to get to a UEFA Champions League semi final.

During last season the ex-Manchester United player, despite his side's slow start, was a constant menace and while Torres netted four penalties (of eight taken) to get to his personal tally of 14, Forlan scored from the spot just once.

His shooting accuracy also was much better while Torres can boast five assist goals against one provided by Forlan.

Player Diego Forlan Fernando Torres

Appearances 36 36

Minutes On Pitch 3,019 3,097

Goal Attempts
Goals 19 14
Shots On Target 57 45
Shots Off Target 40 45
Shooting Accuracy 59% 50%
Chance Conversion 20% 16%

Passing
Goal Assists 1 5
Total Passes 842 754
Pass Completion % 75% 65%

Discipline
Fouls 21 71
Offside 25 30
Yellow Cards 2 4
Red Cards 0 1

kste22
02-08-2007, 15:31
Yawn, yet another Sky Sports news crap article, whats is meant to prove that Sally Gunnel is a better player than Fernando Torres, who cares, they play in different leagues and one was signed as a replacement for the other!

Torres also played the majority of the season as a lone striker, whilst Gunnel played upfront with either Nihat or Franco all season, so added to the resposibility or the captains armband the comparison between the two is not really fair, it would be like comparing Scholes to Jimmy Krankie!!!!!!!!!

So this article should be consigned to a long line of bollocks from sky


YNWA

Len Ganley Stance
02-08-2007, 15:41
it would be like comparing Scholes to Jimmy Krankie



Jimmy Krankie is a far better tackler than Scholesy is

Someone sent me this the other day, I thought it was pretty accurate.....

7 Unwritten Laws for English Football Journalists

1. George Best was aptly named, and anyone who questions this should have their testicles removed via their nostrils. Arguments to the effect that his reputation was mostly based on a single matchwinning performance in a European Cup Final (putting him on a par with Filippo Inzaghi) shall be ignored. Don't mention that he won only two other medals in his career. Please use terms such as "lovable", "cheeky" and "extravagant" instead of "violent p*ss-artist."

2. Patronise African teams wherever possible. They don't have bad defenders, they are "defensively naive". A European team can be "efficient"; if they were African the word would be "plucky". African wingers might have "flair" they could certainly never be "cultured". Have you ever heard of a black playmaker?

3. Don't criticise Paul Scholes. Ever. About anything. If you perceive some shortcoming about his game or personality, you are mistaken. Revisit the situation and you'll promptly discover your error. That time he clattered viciously into the back of an opponent, with the ball ten yards away? It wasn't a dirty tackle - that's something Robbie Savage would do - it's just that, ah "Oh Scholesy, he has never really learned to tackle". If anything, you should feel sorry for him. Fifteen years as professional player and he still hasn't mastered the art of not kicking the sh*t out of other players. Poor lad.

4. The correct term to be applied to those managers who the dogs on the street know are on the take is "wheeler-dealer".

5. Don't forget that penalty Shoot-Outs are a "lottery", when in fact they clearly aren't, since they involve the most basic skill in the sport, namely kicking the ball into the goal, and from twelve f**king yards away, and anyone with a modicum of talent can manage that more often than not (I have regularly proved that the reverse is also true). Ignore the seeringly obvious fact that a stronger team will beat a weaker team on penalties more often than not, just as they would in a match lasting 90 minutes, since good players score and save penalties more often than bad ones. Perpetuate the idea that teams who are eliminated on penalty kicks are unlucky, in spite of the fact that both sides invariably spend most of extra time rolling the ball across the back four because they're terrified to make any attacks.

6. Remember The English national team is a sleeping giant: a genuinely world class outfit which constantly and mysteriously underachieves at every major tournament. Disregard that over the last ten years they have outperformed Netherlands and Spain, big football nations who don't spend half as much time p*ssing and moaning. Ignore their spectacularly efficient ability to qualify for major competitions (especially if a foreigner is in charge). Skew all statistics so that only quarter-finals of said competitions are relevant to discussions. And then draw no attention the seeringly obvious fact that the reason why they don't do any better is that English teams are tactically staid and crap at retaining possession of a football for longer than it takes "Stevie G" to belt a grandstanding 70-yard pass to someone who doesn't really want it.

7. Zidane is great despite doing shag-all during the first five years of his career (and then winning only a moderate amount of stuff in teams packed with the best players in the world). Conversely, anything Cristiano Ronaldo has done in the first five years of his career can be disregarded because he's an effeminate diver.