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Baracuda
25-07-2007, 14:31
Are you getting allergic to Russians in Moscow? :)

The first time I was here in Moscow in '93-'96 the people were totally different, now I have no idea what happened to them, some seem to have migrated to St. Petersburg..

- I mean they are firstly racist, even though the understanding of being a Russian is pretty vague at the best. To some extent this is normal but I'm getting allergic already.
- Work-wise they are even lazier then Cypriots which I didn't think was humanly possible. ( although there are some exceptions to this.)
- I tried searching for work here just to see if it was possible (as I have lots of free time here from being a CEO at a large power engineering company), which was hilarious at the best, if you need a good laugh just write a your cv at some russian jobsite. Who in their right mind with 15 year experience in programming would work a 5 day week office for 1200$ pay when they could make 4 times that amount just freelancing?


comments?

Clean32
25-07-2007, 14:41
Are you getting allergic to Russians in Moscow? :)

The first time I was here in Moscow in '93-'96 the people were totally different, now I have no idea what happened to them, some seem to have migrated to St. Petersburg..

- I mean they are firstly racist, even though the understanding of being a Russian is pretty vague at the best. To some extent this is normal but I'm getting allergic already.
- Work-wise they are even lazier then Cypriots which I didn't think was humanly possible. ( although there are some to this exception to this.)
- I tried searching for work here just to see if it was possible (as I have lots of free time here from being a CEO at a large power engineering company), which was hilarious at the best, if you need a good laugh just write a your cv at some russian jobsite. Who in their right mind with 15 year experience in programming would work a 5 day week office for 1200$ pay when they could make 4 times that amount just freelancing?


comments?

I think you should go home then ???

Clean32
25-07-2007, 14:44
LOL most expats when the first get here are a bit lossed, as thay would be in any new big city. So rather than get there act togeather and stop complaing about it not being the same as at home ( and why should it be) thay should get there head togeather and just deal with it. simple.

Baracuda
25-07-2007, 14:54
Did you even understand what I wrote? I very much doubt it... and I've been here since 2003.

Clean32
25-07-2007, 15:03
Did you even understand what I wrote? I very much doubt it... and I've been here since 2003.

LOL the first post was directed at you. You have a choice. So if you donít like the place, as you donít going by what you have written, then I think the best thing you could do is piss off back home then!!!!

Second post is general, How ever if you HAVE been here since 2003, and you still feel the way that you do? Then why are you here?
And if you have been here since 2003 and havenít figured out how to work with or around the Natives, I would sagest that you are not so bright then aye???

Hawk
25-07-2007, 18:32
I have yet, to find, anywhere in the world, a team of specialist as competant and what we have in our company......

As for the politeness and efficeincy and shear perfectionism of the secretaries, and various other adminstrative workers, they are magnificent... untouchable.. they exceed my expectation... every day...

And i find it is the expats they dissapoint me most

Possibly your company employed loosers and cheap labor.

Baracuda
25-07-2007, 19:09
I have yet, to find, anywhere in the world, a team of specialist as competant and what we have in our company......

As for the politeness and efficeincy and shear perfectionism of the secretaries, and various other adminstrative workers, they are magnificent... untouchable.. they exceed my expectation... every day...

And i find it is the expats they dissapoint me most

Possibly your company employed loosers and cheap labor.


I suppose you never had to build something here in Russia, just wish you never have to.. :) of course specialists, secretaries (or managers/economists/advocates as they call themselves here) will work well, if they don't you can find a replacement as quick as you place an ad.. But for building work, the choices are pretty limited as they are almost all the same.

Expats, well if you force one to work with Russian pay.. they will most probably not really work..

boscoe
25-07-2007, 20:37
I have yet, to find, anywhere in the world, a team of specialist as competant and what we have in our company......

As for the politeness and efficeincy and shear perfectionism of the secretaries, and various other adminstrative workers, they are magnificent... untouchable.. they exceed my expectation... every day...

And i find it is the expats they dissapoint me most

Possibly your company employed loosers and cheap labor.
You're russian aren't you?

Clean32
25-07-2007, 21:36
I have yet, to find, anywhere in the world, a team of specialist as competant and what we have in our company......

As for the politeness and efficeincy and shear perfectionism of the secretaries, and various other adminstrative workers, they are magnificent... untouchable.. they exceed my expectation... every day...

And i find it is the expats they dissapoint me most

Possibly your company employed loosers and cheap labor.

although i doint work much ( by choice ) i do notice that one company will be brilliant and the next totaly slack. i have ben told the same coments you have writen before. But persoanl i doing have a gage on if that is the exception or the norm?

Clean32
25-07-2007, 21:39
I suppose you never had to build something here in Russia, just wish you never have to.. :) of course specialists, secretaries (or managers/economists/advocates as they call themselves here) will work well, if they don't you can find a replacement as quick as you place an ad.. But for building work, the choices are pretty limited as they are almost all the same.

Expats, well if you force one to work with Russian pay.. they will most probably not really work..

i will also agree with this post, the construction industry is uummm intresting at best. i know an english english teacher up my way who is on contract to teach basic english to russian construction workers, who are on there way to the USA to work LOL

Albertina
28-07-2007, 19:54
quote:
(as I have lots of free time here from being a CEO at a large power engineering company)



i have NO comment...

Baracuda
28-07-2007, 20:05
quote:
(as I have lots of free time here from being a CEO at a large power engineering company)

i have NO comment...

What do you think a CEO of a power company does? It takes my company to finish 1 years work in a little over than 3 months, then we wait for other firms to catch up, and in that time I have nothing to do but sit and be bored, and yell at some idiots from a German company who somehow cant do their work (they must have been hand picked especially for Russia) Holidays are OK, good for 1-2 months but after that it just gets plain boring..

Albertina
07-08-2007, 20:18
duh...

Though I knew one Senior PM in a very specialized industry who was paid huge salary as an expat and was doing NOTHING for 4 years, because the project couldn't move.
He did suffer from depression...

SalTheReturn
08-08-2007, 21:40
What do you think a CEO of a power company does? It takes my company to finish 1 years work in a little over than 3 months, then we wait for other firms to catch up, and in that time I have nothing to do but sit and be bored, and yell at some idiots from a German company who somehow cant do their work (they must have been hand picked especially for Russia) Holidays are OK, good for 1-2 months but after that it just gets plain boring..

do not CEO of large companies get the hot secretaries? whats otherwise the big deal of having worked so much to get where you are now?
guess dude you could make yourself busy for couple of months at least and shockingly everyone will think it is normal
good luck

PS. cannot understand why people got pissed whilst this guy was simply describing his own experience...again russian apologists?

Baracuda
09-08-2007, 00:00
do not CEO of large companies get the hot secretaries? whats otherwise the big deal of having worked so much to get where you are now?

Correction, we get the hot 'available - secretaries' and they come in groups of 7 or 10 and get changed seasonally, although I never could figure out why so many, but then again who am I to complain?

Bels
19-08-2007, 23:18
I have yet, to find, anywhere in the world, a team of specialist as competant and what we have in our company......

As for the politeness and efficeincy and shear perfectionism of the secretaries, and various other adminstrative workers, they are magnificent... untouchable.. they exceed my expectation... every day...

And i find it is the expats they dissapoint me most

Possibly your company employed loosers and cheap labor.

What's a looser? Your first post confuses me as your profile states you are a Russian, yet you have only been here since 2003. What's your nationality?

Sidney Bliss
24-08-2007, 22:10
And i find it is the expats they dissapoint me most

Likewise. In my experience they're two-faced, hypocritical, lightweight & lacking in substance, all-mouth-'n'-no-trousers, generally full of sh*t and shockingly without shame. But enough of my ever decreasing circle of friends.

I prefer to keep myself sane by reserving my vitriol for those Russian chaps who've learned absolutely nothing from the fashion fcuk up's of pretty much every mid-80's German pop group and continue to propogate the mullet haircut and the white vest. If Dante were alive he'd need to invent a whole new circle of hell for those nobbenzz.

Baracuda
24-08-2007, 22:42
LOL I thought such flaming ran out of fashion at the end of the 90's, I must be wrong or this must be some sort of revival going on here.. Some people just chill out and grow-up.