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Gypsy
29-11-2010, 11:34
So who will get the nod? Who will? Who should?

martpark
29-11-2010, 11:57
England should since it's been a while. Spain and Portugal will probably win. Russia has the Olympics and maybe they'll use that as a test before they award it here.

Gypsy
29-11-2010, 12:14
England should since it's been a while. What difference does this make? Would it be good for England?
Spain and Portugal will probably win. Russia has the Olympics and maybe they'll use that as a test before they award it here. It is only Winter Olympics and even then not much of a comparison to a World Cup.

Matt24
29-11-2010, 12:38
England should since it's been a while. Spain and Portugal will probably win. Russia has the Olympics and maybe they'll use that as a test before they award it here.

the chances of their being a Spain and Portugal in any shape or form other than an administrative district of the fourth Reich, under severe fiscal control, by the time the world cup comes along are a bit remote, I think - certainly I would imagine that massive capital investment in sports and entertainment infrastructure will go down like a whole basket load of lead balloons with the Iberian public any time soon.

I think it's between the UK,(not England 'cos they need the millenium) - in a cheap and cheerful no new kit M4/M5/M1 London/Manchester centric bid in favourite position -( Millenium / Wembley / Emirates / Stamford Bridge /Twickenham / Eastlands / Old trafford / Villa Park) - With Russia picking up the French and Francophone votes & Eastern Europe and anybody that Cameron manages to piss off between now and the voting as second favourite.

Matt

martpark
29-11-2010, 13:10
What difference does this make? Would it be good for England? It is only Winter Olympics and even then not much of a comparison to a World Cup.

I think it would be good for England, as the country has the infrastructure in place already without much additional cost and the national team does much better on home soil. Ease of travel too for other nations, as the UK is an international hub.

Spain had the World Cup in 82 and Portugal had the Euros recently. Fifa's view of Russia might be it's more about putting on an international event, nothing to do with the season of the year.

Matt, you're right about the economic climate but they might see it as a chance to boost the economy. Like a public works project. WC's are more profitable than the Olympics as there is less infrastructure needed. Also probably more popular than the Olympics.

ThePhenom
30-11-2010, 06:38
2018 is a run between English tradition and Russian money + new market share.

I hope England takes it, although a Russia win would give me another 4 years of post-Sochi hotel construction business. :)

andymackem
01-12-2010, 12:29
Nailed my colours to the mast here: http://themoscownews.com/blogssport/

But I'll confess that this http://themoscownews.com/sports/20101201/188244764.html is making me less sure of Russia's chances.

Looking forward to following it all tomorrow - join me at themoscownews.com when things start happening!

mandelstam13
01-12-2010, 13:41
It has long been assumed that the Russian prime minister, who has hosted the Fifa president, Sepp Blatter, and several committee members in Moscow, would travel to Zurich only if he was fairly certain they would win. His name was not believed to be on the list of delegates circulated by Fifa but the possibility remains that the Russians are planning for him to make a dramatic late appearance. Russia's 2018 chairman, Vitaly Mutko, who is also the country's sports minister, said Putin would clarify his intentions tomorrow.

He still could go. A late appearance would be dramatic. And maybe they just didn't put his name down for security reasons?

Nobbynumbnuts
01-12-2010, 13:49
England for sure. Blatter doesn't like dual bids apparently.
CNN were debating this and Russia were reported to have said they have great hotels in all major cities these days!
Anyway, i think England are a cert.

Nobbynumbnuts
01-12-2010, 14:58
............and who to be given the 2022 World Cup tomorrow?

Japan
Australia
Qatar
USA

Should go to Qatar. It's never been in a mid eastern country but the heat is a problem. They definatelyt have full government, population and financial support.
Will be interesting to see which way it goes.

Gypsy
01-12-2010, 18:35
I'd hate it to go to England or Russia. Both countries have much better things to spend their money on than vanity projects for politicians. England would be better off spending the money on coaches for kids - invest in winning the bl00dy thing not hosting it.

The sight of Cameron and Prince William debasing themselves - and by extension, Us - crawling to Blatter is a vile disgrace. How dare they criticise Panorama for doing their job and highlighting the fraud within FIFA.

Give it to Qatar on a permanent basis.

centrepoint
02-12-2010, 15:06
Putin's pretty pi55ed, isn't he? Not even attending the FIFA decision..

pjw
02-12-2010, 15:24
Watch Russia's bid (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/bidders/live/newsid=1343827/index.html) here............

FatAndy
02-12-2010, 18:39
It seems to me ours have got this cake/headache... :D

tvadim133
02-12-2010, 20:42
It seems to me ours have got this cake/headache... :D

I would say, headache!

The only hope, I have now, they will conduct these games in Kazan, S.Pete and somewhere else, not in Moscow! :(

Who needs it here?

Nobbynumbnuts
02-12-2010, 21:02
I would say, headache!

The only hope, I have now, they will conduct these games in Kazan, S.Pete and somewhere else, not in Moscow! :(

Who needs it here?

Great chance for Russia to show the world they can host a large, multi city sporting event. Good luck to them but they have a lot of work to do on many fronts in my opinion.
About FIFA's decision, i was disappointed England's bid was rejected at the first stage but i suppose it's not suprising considering the British press went to war with FIFA on the subject of corruption. :rolleyes:
On the bright side, FIFA has been consistent. South Africa was the first world cup on African soil, Russia will be the first in Eastern Europe, Qatar will be the first in the Middle East. Every nation in the world must think they have a chance to win now and perhaps that's not a bad thing. ;)

andymackem
02-12-2010, 21:24
I hate to say 'I told you so', but I think I posted this link earlier this week: http://themoscownews.com/blogs/20101129/188239273.html

Been a tough day at work, but kinda fun and I'm happy for Russia.

If anyone fancies voting in our poll, www.themoscownews/com/vote/ will take you there, and there's no shortage of WC2018 reaction on the site's homepage.

Now, what was William Hill's phone number ....?

centrepoint
03-12-2010, 10:59
I don't know if I'll be around by then, but good for Russia!:12115:

Nobbynumbnuts
03-12-2010, 11:09
Would be interesting to know which cities in Russia will be used to host the world cup. Anyone have an idea, anything in the press?

tvadim133
03-12-2010, 11:29
Would be interesting to know which cities in Russia will be used to host the world cup. Anyone have an idea, anything in the press?

Putin said it will be in Moscow mainly, he said it yesterday on the interview! :)

But I guess and know the conditions, that there will be some games in Kazan (their stadiums, hotels are perfect already) and in S.Petersburg, probably.

kanga
03-12-2010, 11:45
Heres a map with the host cities:

http://www.themoscownews.com/infographics/20101202/188251239.html

and here's a description of the facilities in each city:

http://www.themoscownews.com/photogalleries/20101201/188244460.html

Nobbynumbnuts
03-12-2010, 11:59
Heres a map with the host cities:

http://www.themoscownews.com/infographics/20101202/188251239.html

and here's a description of the facilities in each city:

http://www.themoscownews.com/photogalleries/20101201/188244460.html

Cheers kanga, just what i was looking for.

Bric
10-12-2010, 23:48
What do the people in Russia think about winning the bid?

centrepoint
11-12-2010, 11:36
What do the people in Russia think about winning the bid?

There is another thread on this here: http://www.expat.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=272904&highlight=fifa

I'm not Russian, but personally I always welcome these events, they change things for generations to come, if prepared sensibly.

pjw
11-12-2010, 20:22
What do the people in Russia think about winning the bid?I'm looking forward to watching the world cup on home soil. I can only see Russia winning the bid as an opportunity with positive outcomes. It shall change some things, making things a bit more open perhaps, it's a chance for the country to be on stage. The people experiencing Russia as live fans in the actual stadiums would only number maybe a few million max in total, but the viewers on TV watching and thinking about Russia and seeing Russia, this will number billions and this is what counts more. On the one hand, Russia gets several new stadiums, on the other, Russia becomes the centre of world attention, similar to 1980 and Mishka. It was a time we shall always remember fondly.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHqdWFpJkpk&feature=related