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Billy T
11-01-2005, 10:16
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41977


I was stunned the other day when I asked evolution-believing listeners to my nationally syndicated radio show to call in and tell me why they believed.

"Just give me one reason why you accept the theory," I said. "Just give me the strongest argument. You don't have to give me mountains of evidence. Just tell me why I should accept it."

Not one evolutionist called in.

Meanwhile, the phone banks lit up with dozens of evolution skeptics.

Go figure. For more than 40 years, evolution has been taught as fact in government schools to generations of children, yet there is still widespread skepticism, if not cynicism, about the theory across the country.

But, because of political correctness and the fear of ostracism, most people are afraid to admit what they believe about our origins. That's why I wrote my last column "I believe in Creation."

The reaction to it has been unprecedented. While I expected mostly negative fallout, most letters have been quite positive.

So, I decided to take this issue a step further. Since the evolutionists don't want to tell me why they believe in their theory, I figured I would explain why I believe in mine.

The primary reason I believe, of course, is because the Bible tells me so. That's good enough for me, because I haven't found the Bible to be wrong about anything else.

But what about the worldly evidence?

The evolutionists insist the dinosaurs lived millions and millions of years ago and became extinct long before man walked the planet.

I don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe there is a shred of scientific evidence to suggest it. I am 100 percent certain man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. In fact, I'm not at all sure dinosaurs are even extinct!

Think of all the world's legends about dragons. Look at those images. What were those folks seeing? They were clearly seeing dinosaurs. You can see them etched in cave drawings. You can see them in ancient literature. You can see them described in the Bible. You can see them in virtually every culture in every corner of the world.

Did the human race have a collective common nightmare? Or did these people actually see dragons? I believe they saw dragons what we now call dinosaurs.

Furthermore, many of the dinosaur fossils discovered in various parts of the world were found right along human footprints and remains. How did that happen?

And what about the not-so-unusual sightings of contemporary sea monsters? Some of them have actually been captured.

There are also countless contemporary sightings of what appear to be pterodactyls in Asia and Africa.

You know what I think? I think we've been sold a bill of goods about the dinosaurs. I don't believe they died off millions and millions of years ago. In fact, I'm not at all convinced they've died off completely.

Evolutionists have put the cart before the horse. They start out with a theory, then ignore all the facts that contradict the theory. Any observation that might call into question their assumptions is discounted, ridiculed and covered up. That's not science.

How could all the thousands of historical records of dragons and behemoths throughout mankind's time on earth be ignored? Let's admit it. At least some of these observations and records indicate dinosaurs were walking the earth fairly recently if not still walking it today.

If I'm right about that which I am then the whole evolutionary house of cards comes tumbling down.

This is the evidence about which the evolutionists dare not speak.

ghost 6-3
11-01-2005, 13:39
No.

Keep in mind that the 'Big Bang' theory was originally proposed by a Belgian priest, Georges Lemaitr, who went on to have an excellent scientific and theological career.

As concerns creationists, as Pius XII pointed out in Humani Generis:

... For these reasons the Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter -- for the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God.

Just choosing the loopiest of yo-yos as representative of a faith is a bad point to start from.

Sparafucile
11-01-2005, 13:50
"And when he had denied the Triceratops three times, he heard the sound of the Pterodactyl crowing, and said "Thus ye have forsaken me"."

Billy T
11-01-2005, 22:29
Originally posted by ghost 6-3
Just choosing the loopiest of yo-yos as representative of a faith is a bad point to start from.

agreed, glad that doesn't get done to any other faiths around here....

then again these so called "yo-yo's seem to be calling alot of shots around here these days....maybe they dont realize that dragons actually dug it so they would have a place to do cool flying tricks for the amusement of pocahantas and moses when he stayed at her teepee for the week....


Grand Canyon made by Noah's flood, book says
Geologists skewer park for selling creationism
- Julie Cart, Los Angeles Times
Thursday, January 8, 2004

How old is the Grand Canyon? Most scientists agree with the version that rangers at Grand Canyon National Park tell visitors: that the 217-mile- long chasm in northern Arizona was carved by the Colorado River 5 million to 6 million years ago.

Now, however, a book in the park's bookstores tells another story. On sale since last summer, "Grand Canyon: A Different View," by veteran Colorado River guide Tom Vail, asserts that the Grand Canyon was formed by the Old Testament flood, the one Noah's Ark survived, and can be no older than a few thousand years.

The book, which sells for $16.99, includes essays from creationists and theologians. Vail wrote in the introduction, "For years, as a Colorado River guide I told people how the Grand Canyon was formed over the evolutionary time scale of millions of years. Then I met the Lord. Now, I have a different view of the Canyon, which according to a biblical time scale, can't possibly be more than a few thousand years old."

Reaction to the book has been sharply divided. The American Geological Institute and seven geo-science organizations sent letters to the park and to agency officials calling for the book to be removed.

In part to appease some outraged Grand Canyon employees, the book was moved from the natural sciences section to the inspirational reading section of park bookstores.

"I've had reactions from the staff all over the board on it," said Deputy Superintendent Kate Cannon. "There were certainly people on the interpretive staff that were upset by it. Respect of visitors' views is imperative, but we do urge our interpreters to give scientifically correct information."

Park Service spokesman David Barna in Washington, D.C., said each park determined which products were sold in its bookstores and gift shops. The creationist book at the Grand Canyon was unanimously approved by a panel of park and gift shop personnel.

But the book's status at the park is still in question. Grand Canyon Superintendent Joe Alston has sought guidance from Park Service headquarters in Washington.

Meanwhile, the book has sold out and is being reordered.

George Billingsley, a geologist with the U.S. Geological Survey, has been studying the Grand Canyon for 36 years and said scientists had never agreed about the exact age of the canyon, although most concur that the oldest formations are nearly 2 billion years old. A scientific symposium held in 2000 to resolve the question of how the canyon was formed dissolved in acrimony and adjourned without consensus, he said.

The flap at the Grand Canyon highlights what officials say is a problem for the national park system: how to respect visitors' spiritual views that may directly contradict the agency's accepted scientific presentations and maintain the necessary division of church and state.

"We struggle. Creationism vs. science is a big issue at some places," said Deanne Adams, the Park Service's chief of interpretation for the Pacific Region.

The questions arise most often at Western parks where geology is often highlighted, Adams said, singling out John Day Fossil Beds Monument in southern Oregon as a place where scientifically determined dates have been challenged.

"We like to acknowledge that there are different viewpoints, but we have to stick with the science. That's our training," Adams said. She said there was no federal guideline for how to answer religious inquiries.

Last summer, the Park Service ordered the reinstatement of three plaques bearing Bible verses that were erected at Grand Canyon National Park in 1970 by a group called the Evangelical Sisterhood of Mary. Alston called for their removal last summer after a complaint by the American Civil Liberties Union.

Park Service Deputy Director Donald Murphy, who ran the California state parks department under former Gov. Pete Wilson, ordered the brass plaques be returned and sent the group a letter apologizing for "any intrusion."

Barna said Murphy had overruled the Grand Canyon superintendent because he and the agency's regional attorney were not sufficiently well versed in Constitutional law.

Critics say that by condoning religious material in the park, the federal government is endorsing a particular spiritual point of view.

CHP
23-01-2005, 14:23
Why couldn't a Creator create a creation that continues to unravel and create itself? Why is it always Creation vs. Evolution? It could be the Creation vs. Evolution mash-up! Like RunDMC vs. Jason Neville. I've seen six days on timelapse film done in under 10 seconds. Creation on strobe? How long is a day if the earth isn't spinning? What is time, really, when you exist outside of it? "There! One day equals six zillion years." I don't see any really great reason why the two couldn't work together.