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WWu777
19-12-2004, 06:47
Dear all,
I hope I don't get flamed for asking this question, because things like this tend to draw heat from the braggarts, know-it-alls, and condemners, but I have some serious questions here.

My name is Winston and I am well known on the internet for my stories and journals about my Russian adventures in dating, which you can read about and see pictures of on my site at www.geocities.com/wwu777us So my name may be familiar to some of you.

Anyway, here's my question. I often hear from foreign guys here that the girls here are easy to score with and sexually loose. I know sometimes that's just guy bathroom talk, but some guys here seriously say this. And that's the legend about Russian women in Moscow.

However, I've been here on and off for a long time, and my experience is nothing like that. It is definitely true that the women here are easy to meet, very approachable, and communicative. And I have easily already met hundreds of girls here, in the metro, in the park, in discos, on the street, in all sorts of public places, etc.

However, it seems that every Russian girl I like either 1) tells me that her heart doesn't love me, even if she likes me in other ways, 2) says that I am not her type of man, 3) never wants to make any time for me and is always busy and never calls me, 4) just wants to be friends and practice her English, or 5) says she is very attracted to me, likes me a lot, and wants a relationship, but disappears after one or two meetings.

And these things above HAPPEN EVEN IF I AM GENEROUS AND NEVER TRY TO TOUCH THE GIRL!!!!!!! Whether I am a gentlemen or not, whether I am generous or stingy, makes NO DIFFERENCE at all!

Most of these girls seem to like my personality at least, but they say that looks aren't important to them, which must be a lie, because if looks aren't important to them, then how can they like so much about me, but then flake out on me or not be interested? Obviously looks must have been the main factor, if they do that, even though they lie and say it's not important.

Can some explain why Russian women lie to me so much, and break so many promises they make? How much of the problem is me, and how much is it of them?

I know that some girls are naturally flaky and changeable, but almost any man here can at least find a few girls that like them and won't disappear, but I can't even find one normal decent looking girl that is serious about me. Why?

I feel like the only western man who can't find a real girlfriend here. Does the fact that I'm a short Asian man 170cm, have anything to do with it? Or my race?

Why are Russian women so changeable with me? You know, this morning a lady who I met in the personals and went out with once a few months ago and appreciated all my qualities, saying I was manly and sexy, admitted this morning that she was never interested in dating me, and that she said those things just to be nice. But I thought we hit it off, because we seemed to understand and connect well, and she said things that were signs that she was interested. How can I ever believe a Russian woman if they lie like that? In my experience meeting and dating hundreds of Russian women, I know that they can tell you that they like you with their words, body, face, eyes, gaze, energy, vibe, etc. but then disappear later or tell you that it wasn't real. Why? How can you know if she likes you then? It's impossible, since any good signs she gives means nothing?!

Also, why do the girls here never invite you to their home or want to come to yours, even for dinner? Out in the other cities and provinces of Russia, they came over to my flat or invited me to theirs often, but why don't women here in Moscow ever do that? What is the problem? It's like taking them home or going to theirs is even taboo to ask!

Please give me some answers without any flaming or useless one-liners like "the problem is you!" I want some useful answers that will check out, rather than brush-off remarks. Thanks.

Winston

am4rw
19-12-2004, 08:56
Have you noticed that you had this problem in other countries? Women in Moscow aren't any different in how they view men than women I've met elsewhere.

Sorry for the one liner, but this is a stupid question.

J.D.
19-12-2004, 09:10
I'm probably opening myself to some serious abuse, am4, but I disagree. My guess would be that it's because he's asian.

am4rw
19-12-2004, 09:17
Very possibly, JD, but check out the link to his website.

J.D.
19-12-2004, 09:43
Thanks a lot am4, that ate up a good 30 minutes of my time.
I still say that unless he spews all that stuff out on the first date it's because he's asian.

plastique
19-12-2004, 09:55
Without knowing you personally, at first look I would have to go with the Asian thing too. I have a lot of racially diverse friends here. The girls love my white friends. They love the black guys too because it is more of a novelty, but my asian guy friends have troubles not only pullin the ladies, but getting into clubs and all sorts of other stuff....Mabye because the russian asians are see as from the provinces and there is some deep long dark ingrained thing about it...i dunno...i'm not a russian girl....
It could also be the places you are looking for girls. I know few guys that have different girls every night. It's the type of girl...even the "can't get la*d in their own country" guy is getting some, just lowering his standards to the really young wallet hound.

uninformed
19-12-2004, 13:49
In most situations like this one has to look at oneself. If it happens "all the time" then the difficulty likes with you - not with "all of them." So perhaps some self appraisal, therapy, et al is in order if this is a long standing pattern in your life.

Writer
19-12-2004, 16:04
I don't mean to sound like a jerk here, but this Winston fellow has an awful lot of candid photos of young girls in his photo album.....I mean too young... 10-12ish. I find it distasteful and rather shameful.

85StoneWhiteFurball
19-12-2004, 16:10
In addition, his website contradicts his posts - he rambles about the status accorded him as a "beautiful person" in Russia BECAUSE of his Asian heritage.

No point in giving this guy any more of the attention which he craves, unless the thread can be moved to Bardak.

capone
19-12-2004, 16:19
My best friend here is east Asian and has the same problem. He's a bit of a whoremonger, though.

Cocheese
19-12-2004, 18:35
Originally posted by 85StoneWhiteFurball
In addition, his website contradicts his posts - he rambles about the status accorded him as a "beautiful person" in Russia BECAUSE of his Asian heritage.

No point in giving this guy any more of the attention which he craves, unless the thread can be moved to Bardak.

I agree with the bear and am4rw, from the guy's webpage he seems like a douche, and if this is your true mentality, you've probably been shut down by girls all over-not just in Russia and the US. It's not that Russian or American girls are flakes, it's you.

Sparafucile
19-12-2004, 19:08
from his website:




Keep sentence structures and grammar as simple as possible, as if you were writing to a child

rather than saying “I am like a tiger”, say “I am similar to a tiger”

Small gifts under 100 roubles though, are more acceptable for her to ask for them, but not so often that it becomes a shopping spree.

Therefore, spending a lot of money on a first date is not necessary

Unless you are sure that you two are hitting it off well, try to avoid restaurants, wine, or expensive things

Most Russian women are accustomed to walking and have strong feet (some even have blisters and veins on their feet to show for it :)). They are accustomed to taking buses, trolley, minivan buses, or metros and therefore won't have a problem with it

* Note: Request for help - Currently, I am living in Moscow on a tight budget, after being scammed, robbed, betrayed, blackmailed, attacked/assaulted twice (the second time of which got me on Russian national TV!), cheated, lied to, used, taken advantage of, dumped, and flaked on repeatedly. (Request the file of my current updates for full dramatic details) If you like the material on my site, please consider sending me a 5 dollar donation to help with my basic living expenses. I take PayPal (www.paypal.com) at the email address above. I don't ask for much, just the equivalent of the price of a meal at McDonald's. I promise to use all donations for rent and groceries only. Thanks.








USEFUL RUSSIAN VOCABULARY:

1) skupoi

2) bezpontovik

3) podly

middletonm
19-12-2004, 21:52
" every Russian girl I like either 1) tells me that her heart doesn't love me, even if she likes me in other ways, 2) says that I am not her type of man, 3) never wants to make any time for me and is always busy and never calls me, 4) just wants to be friends and practice her English, or 5) says she is very attracted to me, likes me a lot, and wants a relationship, but disappears after one or two meetings"--- I've got news for you, Girls everywhere do these things when they decide they aren't interested

"And these things above HAPPEN EVEN IF I AM GENEROUS AND NEVER TRY TO TOUCH THE GIRL!!!!!!! whether I am generous or stingy, makes NO DIFFERENCE at all"

Did you really expect them to fall in love with you because you paid for some things and didn't molest them? Just because they are russian doesnt mean you can buy them.

Sparafucile
20-12-2004, 00:38
I think the nicest touch is presenting a complete website of how to successfully have relationships with Russian girls...

.... and on the bottom of the homepage, admit that you are lonely, jilted loser who has not only failed to launch a successful relationship, but has also lost everything he owns, has been robbed, and severely physically assaulted in the process??

He's asking $5 per view for this info... I hope you've all been generous? Actually I'd encourage not sending more than R100, because apparently that's "more than enough".

Claude Bottom
20-12-2004, 01:49
Winston, congratulations on putting together one of the weirdest personal websites I've ever seen, and I think if you go back and read it, all the answers to your original question are there.

85StoneWhiteFurball
20-12-2004, 09:57
pls del

corp_fin
20-12-2004, 10:08
Damn, the guy is weird, no wonder girls avoid him at all costs. It has nothing to do with being Asian - see, he manages to get first dates, but then - nothing, "they dissapear".

mitam77
20-12-2004, 10:34
Winston
This is nothing to do with your race/colour -otherwise you will not get a first date.

You say 'you are generous and never touch the girl'
Perhaps that is where the problem lies:You are not generous enough - and DONT touch the girl!!!
Which girl wants to spend endless hours and days in a cafe talking crap with a foreigner and the man does not even attempt to touch her!
Maybe try to touch the girl on your first date ...you might be surprised with the result.

Halyavshik
20-12-2004, 10:37
Winston,

Relax, in my opinion, the explanation lies not in your ethnicity.

Rather, it's more likely because you must be one of the most shallow, insecure and idotic people visiting Russia that I've ever heard of.

You narrow-mindedly seek true love via Russian marriage agencies, film yourself 'hooking up' with and having sex with women you can't even communicate with (do you actually ask them if you can film the kiss, or do you do slimely do it on the sly ?), pass broad and usually completely erronerous judgements on Russian culture and women, and ask why you're not more successful ? I can see your inferiority complex from a mile away.

Here are some of my favorite quotes from the website:

Winston Legalizes Prostitution
"Now for something a little shady. It's something to do if your girl dumps you, or you are feeling depressed or bored, and you want to do something besides drink the blues away. Almost every hotel in Russia or Ukraine has “call girl” services. You can ask the doorman for it, or if you walk around the hotel lobby for a while looking bored, they will usually offer it to you. After choosing the girl you want, another girl usually takes the fee, which is usually only between 500-700 roubles (about $15-20) per hour if you're not in Moscow or St. Petersburg (otherwise, it's considerably higher in those cities) and leaves, giving the hotel its cut. Discounted rates for all-night are also available. Usually, safe sex is a requirement and the girl will have condoms for you to use. All of this is perfectly legal though, so don't worry about getting in trouble with law enforcement."

Winston's Unsual Bathroom Requests
"Some of these public restrooms have NO toilet paper inside them! The thing is, you have to ask for it from the fee taker before you go in. Therefore, before going in, ask the fee collector if there is paper in there or if she has to give some to you. Just point to the restroom and ask her in an inquisitive tone “Knega?” (paper)"

Winston on Persnickety Wine Drinkers
"However, there are some women who will ONLY ride taxis, and they are usually the same ones who like to order wine all the time too."

Winston the Philosopher
"They see spending as releasing pockets of energy that are not lost, but just converted into another form or bounce back to you. In essence, you could say it's a higher view of reality that takes into account your friends and loved ones, rather than the individual. The collective interconnected energy of their group, to them is what it's all about, rather than just individuals fighting for their own needs.

Winston of the Expensive Hostel
You'd better get used to being as a status symbol of power and wealth

Oh, man. Good luck. You'll need it.

polly
20-12-2004, 11:11
Winston's Unsual Bathroom Requests
"Some of these public restrooms have NO toilet paper inside them! The thing is, you have to ask for it from the fee taker before you go in. Therefore, before going in, ask the fee collector if there is paper in there or if she has to give some to you. Just point to the restroom and ask her in an inquisitive tone “Knega?” (paper)"

knega???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA

Shatneresque
20-12-2004, 11:20
Originally posted by polly
knega???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA

Hey, maybe the lad just likes to read while he's sitting on the biffy! :D

Canadian1979
20-12-2004, 11:22
What a friggin' LOSER !!!!!!

My god...... It's people like YOU who make those of us with a genuine interest in Eastern Eurpope and Russia look bad. Because of perverts like yourself I often don't bring up the topic with people I meet because there is bound to be that skeptical look on their faces, as if to say "oh....you're one of those.....". It angers me. I've met many perverts just like you, Winston..... sad losers who can't even get a look from a woman back in the USA, Canada or the UK. You go to Russia or East Europe thinking that you can buy (or should I say rent) girls because their situation in life is not so great.... Shame on you!

Oh, and it IS because you are Asian. I've heard time and time again how Russians (not only women) dislike Asians. And yes, the universal stereotype of small Asian units is well known to Russian women. But you probably know that, from the laughs you've heard when the hookers you hire first get a look...........

My suggestion to you, drop you Russia fixation, pack up your bags and head to Thailand.....you'll have much more luck with the dirty skanks over there.

Airplane-Clapper
20-12-2004, 11:33
Gotta love what you find on Winston's acting resume:

Special Skills

Look/act like juvenile teenager, Cry at will, Quick hand/leg movement, Lightning punches, Karate kicks, Speed walking, Magic tricks, Playing the piano, Billiards, 3 Foreign Languages - Chinese, Taiwanese, Russian>

polly
20-12-2004, 11:33
Originally posted by Shatneresque
Hey, maybe the lad just likes to read while he's sitting on the biffy! :D

heheehehehe i'm sure you already realized that i pictured something else altogether

Shatneresque
20-12-2004, 11:38
Originally posted by polly
heheehehehe i'm sure you already realized that i pictured something else altogether

Oh, oh, oh! You mean...? Tear the pages out after he's done...and use them to wipe his...? Yuk! :sick:

Shatneresque
20-12-2004, 11:57
Originally posted by Canadian1979
And yes, the universal stereotype of small Asian units is well known to Russian women. But you probably know that, from the laughs you've heard when the hookers you hire first get a look...........

"Oh, it's twue! It's twue!!!"


---Madelyn Khan as Lili von Schtupp,
"Blazing Saddles," Paramount, 1974

corp_fin
20-12-2004, 11:59
Originally posted by Shatneresque
Oh, it's twue! It's twue!!!


---Madelyn Khan in "Blazing Saddles," Paramount, 1974

How would YOU know :shame: ?

polly
20-12-2004, 12:00
Originally posted by Shatneresque
Oh, oh, oh! You mean...? Tear the pages out after he's done...and use them to wipe his...? Yuk! :sick:

actually no, i envisaged him using the whole damn book. =)

Shatneresque
20-12-2004, 12:16
Originally posted by corp_fin
How would YOU know :shame: ?

I don't, Lili does! :D

Jet
20-12-2004, 12:17
He, hands off asians :D I am an asian! Never had problems meeting or dating girls I really like. Of course, I grew up here, but I assure you that most of the really nice (I mean classy) girls here are interested in exotic foreign things, not only black :D. You just have to position yourself correctly, don't bite what you can not chew, have your own style, respect yourself and the right girls will come your way.

Shatneresque
20-12-2004, 12:20
Originally posted by Jet
don't bite what you can not chew

Oh, man, the possible replies boggle the mind...! :suspect:

Canadian1979
20-12-2004, 14:08
PERVERT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shatneresque
20-12-2004, 14:41
Originally posted by Canadian1979
PERVERT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahhhh, Chew Me!



(Oooooooooooooooooooooh! :shame: Sorry, couldn't resist this one, either...!)

:D :D :D

Jet
20-12-2004, 14:58
Canadian, but there are a lot of asian canadians...

IRS_Runner
20-12-2004, 14:59
Giving advice to others in dating while you can't work out your own love life?
C'mon from now on I'm sticking to Dr Phil! :D

jheisel
20-12-2004, 15:06
I have two things to say:

1) "winston wu" - Google Search

and

2) http://www.successfulschizophrenia.com/stories/wwu.html

Also, I skimmed your book-length articles on coming to Russia to find a wife, and I must say that you come across as incredibly naive, which may be one reason you're not having luck. Being a reformed Christian/schizo/etc. may be another, but who knows.

stralex
20-12-2004, 15:30
Why is every freakin' foreigner trying to discover a REAL Russia ? Then he tries to write a book about the REAL Russia, and so on ... and so on.

Irena
20-12-2004, 15:33
>My god...... It's people like YOU who make those of us with a >genuine interest in Eastern Eurpope and Russia look bad. >Because of perverts like yourself I often don't bring up the topic >with people I meet because there is bound to be that skeptical >look on their faces, as if to say "oh....you're one of those.....". It >angers me. I've met many perverts just like you, Winston..... >sad losers who can't even get a look from a woman back in the >USA, Canada or the UK. You go to Russia or East Europe >thinking that you can buy (or should I say rent) girls because >their situation in life is not so great.... Shame on you!

You couldn’t say it better, Canadian guy.
Being a woman, I would clear off after the first date with Winston, just like those poor souls he was met through the marriage sites. He sounds desperate and this is what puts the girls off. I met a few blokes in his condition, so even despite being on a date, they would start smiling and chatting up to ALL women within a reachable distance, eg in metro, in a restaurant, so a woman would started thinking- oh god, I wish I’ve stayed at home and never met this freak.
I think Winston’s problem – as a devoted Christian (this is what I realized from his web-site), he’s probably thinking of women as something sinful and dirty (Ok, the girl I fell with has refused me, but I’ll do it with 500 R hooker, still the same sh*t ), the best what he can do to my reconciliation, is to stay away from the girls who go to the night clubs, drink alcohol and capable to pay for themselves on a meal out and find himself a quiet church girl who would take him as he is.

Irena

koba65
20-12-2004, 15:39
"Dear all,
I hope I don't get flamed for asking this question, because things like this tend to draw heat from the braggarts, know-it-alls, and condemners, but I have some serious questions here."

After reading your post, I'd say you have some "serious issues" rather than serious questions.

" My name is Winston and I am well known on the internet for my stories and journals about my Russian adventures in dating, which you can read about and see pictures of on my site at www.geocities.com/wwu777us So my name may be familiar to some of you. "

Nope, never heard of the "well known" Winston and his Russian adventures. You're no Johnny Chen!

" Anyway, here's my question. I often hear from foreign guys here that the girls here are easy to score with and sexually loose. I know sometimes that's just guy bathroom talk, but some guys here seriously say this. And that's the legend about Russian women in Moscow.

However, I've been here on and off for a long time, and my experience is nothing like that. It is definitely true that the women here are easy to meet, very approachable, and communicative. And I have easily already met hundreds of girls here, in the metro, in the park, in discos, on the street, in all sorts of public places, etc.

However, it seems that every Russian girl I like either 1) tells me that her heart doesn't love me, even if she likes me in other ways, 2) says that I am not her type of man, 3) never wants to make any time for me and is always busy and never calls me, 4) just wants to be friends and practice her English, or 5) says she is very attracted to me, likes me a lot, and wants a relationship, but disappears after one or two meetings."

Winston, Winston, Winston, tsk, tsk, tsk, you can't see the writing on the wall - you BORE them. If they disappear after one or two dates it means you've blown it, you couldn't keep them interested. Has nothing to do with you being Asian - after all, they agreed to a date, didn't they?

"And these things above HAPPEN EVEN IF I AM GENEROUS AND NEVER TRY TO TOUCH THE GIRL!!!!!!! Whether I am a gentlemen or not, whether I am generous or stingy, makes NO DIFFERENCE at all! "

Me thinks you just can't read the vibes the girls are sending out to you.

" Most of these girls seem to like my personality at least, but they say that looks aren't important to them, which must be a lie, because if looks aren't important to them, then how can they like so much about me, but then flake out on me or not be interested? Obviously looks must have been the main factor, if they do that, even though they lie and say it's not important.

Can some explain why Russian women lie to me so much, and break so many promises they make? How much of the problem is me, and how much is it of them? "

Maybe you're trying to force them into promising something they don't want to promise? That might put them in a position of not wanting to hurt you (to your face)- so, they promise you something and then hope to back away from the promise as time goes by. And they lie to you because they don't respect you - and that's your fault.

"I know that some girls are naturally flaky and changeable, but almost any man here can at least find a few girls that like them and won't disappear, but I can't even find one normal decent looking girl that is serious about me. Why? "

Perhaps because you appear to be shallow? "decent looking girl"???? So, if you met a not so decent looking girl who had a fantastic personality and really clicked with you, you wouldn't be interested because she's not "decent looking"???

"I feel like the only western man who can't find a real girlfriend here. Does the fact that I'm a short Asian man 170cm, have anything to do with it? Or my race? "

If they agree to go out with you they're obviously not bothered by your height or race. I'm 166cm and never have a problem meeting or dating Russian women. In fact, in my experience, Russian women seem a lot less hung up about someone's height in comparision with Western women.

"... I know that they can tell you that they like you with their words, body, face, eyes, gaze, energy, vibe, etc. but then disappear later or tell you that it wasn't real. Why? How can you know if she likes you then? It's impossible, since any good signs she gives means nothing?! "

Perhaps you are misreading the signs.....

"Also, why do the girls here never invite you to their home or want to come to yours, even for dinner? Out in the other cities and provinces of Russia, they came over to my flat or invited me to theirs often, but why don't women here in Moscow ever do that? What is the problem? It's like taking them home or going to theirs is even taboo to ask!"

Dude, what the hell? I'll make it plain and simple - if they don't want to come to your home it means they're NOT interested - PERIOD. And don't forget that in other cities and provinces in Russia there is a lot less to do (night life, etc), so visiting friends is one of the main forms of socializing. Plus, there are a lot less foreigners in the provinces, so you're a bit exotic to them... Maybe you should go live in Nizhnyj Tagil or Vishnyj Velichok - perhaps you'll find what you think you are looking for.

It's rare for them to invite you back to their homes because they might not want you to see how they live (they may live in a communal apartment or with parents, friends, husbands, kids, boyfriends etc.), and it's very uncomfortable for them. Plus, if you're not in any sort of real relationship with them it's highly unlikely they'd invite you back to their place.

Shatneresque
20-12-2004, 15:58
And yes, the universal stereotype of small Asian units is well known to Russian women. But you probably know that, from the laughs you've heard when the hookers you hire first get a look...........

Would it be ethnic humor to say that he really sounds like one hung guy?


(Oooooooooooooooooooh..... :shame: )

:D :D :D

Shatneresque
20-12-2004, 16:03
Ever piloted a starship? There might be an opening for you in my crew....

:alien: :alien: :alien:

mitam77
20-12-2004, 16:09
To Canadian 1979 (from Atlantis - never heard of this country!)

What is the difference between you and Winston ?

He has fixed unreasonable ideas about Russian women and he is definitely mistaken and misinformed.
You have fixed unreasonable and misinformed ideas about Asians.
and as you admit - you have just heard these ideas about Asians.

Where have you heard these ideas ????In your country of origin- Atlantis.(where is this on the map?)
Dont know whether to feel sorry for you or what.

Canadian1979
20-12-2004, 16:35
Originally posted by mitam77
To Canadian 1979 (from Atlantis - never heard of this country!)

What is the difference between you and Winston ?

He has fixed unreasonable ideas about Russian women and he is definitely mistaken and misinformed.
You have fixed unreasonable and misinformed ideas about Asians.
and as you admit - you have just heard these ideas about Asians.

Where have you heard these ideas ????In your country of origin- Atlantis.(where is this on the map?)
Dont know whether to feel sorry for you or what.


Let me guess, you're Asian too. :agree:

Grow up !

The issue at hand is Winston's whore-mongering perv way of thinking. Not his Asian-ness.

You're funny :D Have a beer, relax ! I like Asians. If Winston were white I'd be calling him a white-trash perv. If he were black I'd be calling him a brotha'perv, Arab.....well, I'd be calling him Saddam :D

Shatneresque
20-12-2004, 17:52
Originally posted by WWu777
My name is Winston and I am well known on the internet for my stories and journals about my Russian adventures in dating, which you can read about and see pictures of on my site at www.geocities.com/wwu777us So my name may be familiar to some of you.

Hi! I'm William Shatner. You might remember me from such TV shows as "T.J. Hooker" and "Rescue: 911"....

:smokin:

Canadian1979
20-12-2004, 17:59
It's funny how he has to use a free* web host for his "famous" website !


*Geocities is free

mediashark
20-12-2004, 18:03
Mods, please, PLEASE keep a close eye on this guy. He has raised hell on other respectable message boards. You won't wanna wait till it gets really ugly...

polly
20-12-2004, 18:14
do tell!

mediashark
20-12-2004, 18:19
What's the point in telling all? This guy thrives on attention. The best thing to do is to just ignore him though he makes an excellent punching bag. If you really want an example try the waytorussia.net board. That's all I can say...

polly
20-12-2004, 18:21
yeah and who has the millions of hours it would take to retell everything this guy writes?
just stumbled upon the waytorussia thing...

http://www.waytorussia.net/TalkLounge/conversation1459.html
"W: Actually, I can be a good liar if I want to be, but it's because I'm a talented actor and able to control my facial muscles. But it's not because I don't have a conscience. I am also able to convince myself that the lie is true as well, which helps."

ROTFLMFAO

85StoneWhiteFurball
20-12-2004, 18:24
Look. This poster is clearly mentally ill (according to his own website, he suffers from schizophrenia, which is a biological illness and not any fault of his own) and cannot help himself. Enough teasing him, enough responding to his troll post. Do we somehow make ourselves look better by demeaning him?

Claude Bottom
20-12-2004, 21:14
Well said, Mr Polar Bear.. enough is enough.

Deanna Senna
20-12-2004, 21:35
Whilst the original poster clearly has some problems, I'd hazard a guess that many of the repliers also have unresolved issues they need to deal with.

"85StoneWhiteFurball" my respect.

Cocheese
20-12-2004, 23:09
Originally posted by Deanna Senna
Whilst the original poster clearly has some problems, I'd hazard a guess that many of the repliers also have unresolved issues they need to deal with.

Deanna, we the peanut gallery comment on Wu's original post and say he has problems. You comment on our posts and say we have problems or "unresolved issues," but give no reasons. I can just as easily comment on you and say that you have issues. At least we picked apart things this character wrote and commented on those. No offense, but yours is baseless.

mediashark
20-12-2004, 23:14
Hey, guys, enough is enough! Nobody's perfect but lets not start to peck each other apart. Deanna is just guessing, after all.

Cocheese
20-12-2004, 23:54
Mediashark, you're right, I take back my mean comment to Deanna. The faulty logic is still there though.

Braders
03-01-2005, 18:32
Thread closed - It's in the best interests of the original poster that we do this, until such a time as he contacts a moderator/administrator.

Regards.