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Qdos
25-08-2009, 07:20
Strewth, here I am at 5.15am local time, and I've been awake for a couple of hours and think I must be on a caffeine high, can't go back to sleep, so I thought I'd poke my head around the door and see who's around.

Except there's nobody even serving (more) coffee... :coffee:

Nevermind anyone drinking it, the place is deserted... :lovepot:

Viola
25-08-2009, 09:36
Here they are dangers of caffeine :10641: you've been describing them lately on other threat :book:

Qdos
25-08-2009, 09:48
Actually, it wasn't caffeine really... I was merely jesting, I suffer from a stiff knee (only because it's been butchered by an incompetent surgeon in the past and sometimes gives me hell...) and it stopped me sleeping, hence there I was at 5am rubbing in loads of Keteroprofen gel followed by some Deep Heat to try and get a little relief from the pain...

I still can't hold my weight properly on it... :voodoo:

Viola
25-08-2009, 10:09
(only because it's been butchered by an incompetent surgeon in the past and sometimes gives me hell...)

Had been wounded in gangster skirmish? And treated illegaly by medical student like this one?

It's the best parody on gangster movie I've ever seen, unfortunately in Russian only...

YouTube- Жмурки (2005) : 10/11

Qdos
25-08-2009, 10:26
Had been wounded in gangster skirmish? And treated illegaly by medical student like this one?

Not quite. I was operated on by a guy the hospital nicknamed
'Abdulla the Butcher' though... :9456:

He eventually got the sack for stitching people up... :jester:

FatAndy
25-08-2009, 11:54
was operated on by a guy the hospital nicknamed 'Abdulla the Butcher' though... - maybe it would be better to consult local experienced surgeon/orthopaedic doctor (or doctor from any local sporting team) than to continue suffer?
I can ask my wife about those medicines (she skates rollerblades and knows some reparation paste-form medicines)... but to consult doctor is the first thing to do I think...

Qdos
25-08-2009, 12:10
Maybe it would be better to consult local experienced surgeon/orthopaedic doctor (or doctor from any local sporting team) than to continue suffer?

Thanks Andy, but it's an old problem that I've learned to cope with, and I'm supposed to be seeing another surgeon in the autumn - there's not much creams can do except give a bit of pain relief and relax my taught muscles when it flares up, the cartilege is damaged and needs a second operation to get it sorted...

I keep all the necessary potions and pills I need to hand... :)

FatAndy
25-08-2009, 12:20
OK, another way is to decrease a load - sit on black bread - kefir - vegetable diet for a while to lower weigh on it... ;)
Don't delay too much surgeon visit, X-ray or NMR-tomography or operation if needed - health is not a thing to make jokes with.
Although you have all you need maybe this can be useful too - locally available creams list with description (in Russian), at the bottom there are also links to knee damage forums discussion :
http://www.sportmedicine.ru/creams.php

Qdos
25-08-2009, 13:01
OK, another way is to decrease a load - sit on black bread - kefir - vegetable diet for a while to lower weigh on it... ;)

You're just jealous I'm fatter than you... :p


Don't delay too much surgeon visit, X-ray or NMR-tomography or operation if needed - health is not a thing to make jokes with.

Thanks for the link. Actually I'm in hospital right now, but only in the capacity of moral support for a family member - anyway, I showed my knee to a French doctor yesterday, and they said for XX Euros I could book an MRi scan and arthroscopy... yada, yada...

I'm sure as hell not letting any doctors in Tatarstan touch me, friend of mine recently had his appendix out in Chelny - under local anaesthetic, told me he could feel everything they did!!! :9456:

It can wait til' the Autumn, will get it done again in England...

FatAndy
25-08-2009, 13:18
just jealous I'm fatter than you... - maybe... 113kg is my presentation now.

for XX Euros I could book an MRi scan and arthroscopy... yada, yada... - why not to do it, and then send digitized pics to UK doctor (just for a case)? Well, you to decide ;)

under local anaesthetic, told me he could feel everything they did!!! - I'm not a specialist in N. Chelny general medical level, maybe they suffer from lack of funds and competence as you can meet everywhere in Russia, but just in brackets I need to note that local anaestesy can be applied for appendix cut out also if the person has contraindications vs general anaestesy (for example, weak heart/vessel system, liver/kidneys problems, individual allergy etc.).

Anyway I hope your knee will be OK...

Qdos
25-08-2009, 14:13
113kg is my presentation now...

OK, so I'm a lightweight... :redcard:

Swordfish90293
25-08-2009, 16:20
Ice for 15 minutes 3 or more times a day. It helps put you to sleep as well as reduce swelling and inflamation plus numbs the area.

Strengthen the muscles around the knee once it's no longer painful. The one to the top inside of the knee is the one that should be worked relentlessly...sitting leg raises, start with as heavy weight as you can for 15 reps, then 12, 10, 8 and finally 5 reps.

Buy a skateboard for the inevitable...

Qdos
25-08-2009, 16:32
Ice for 15 minutes 3 or more times a day. It helps put you to sleep as well as reduce swelling and inflamation plus numbs the area.

My tiny icebox at home has a job to keep up with my aperitif quota, nevermind being put to work for medicinal purposes too... ;)


Strengthen the muscles around the knee once it's no longer painful. The one to the top inside of the knee is the one that should be worked relentlessly...sitting leg raises, start with as heavy weight as you can for 15 reps, then 12, 10, 8 and finally 5 reps.

Buy a skateboard for the inevitable...

The muscles are good, it's the cartilege which is probably torn, leaving a part of it 'blocking' the knees 'hinge' function and causing the muscles to react abnormally, and isn't allowing me to straighten the joint normally at the present... so even the skateboard is out, unless I can sit on it and get a husky team to drag me around...

:5387:

robertmf
25-08-2009, 16:48
Thanks Andy, but it's an old problem that I've learned to cope with, and I'm supposed to be seeing another surgeon in the autumn - there's not much creams can do except give a bit of pain relief and relax my taught muscles when it flares up, the cartilege is damaged and needs a second operation to get it sorted...

I keep all the necessary potions and pills I need to hand... :)

(Not being a medical doctor) this sounds like you need someone to go in with the scope and clean things out - a regular sports injury that's (here in the USA) now routine factory work. I'd get a "second opinion" if the surgeon recommends your going under the knife as the first option. You want the wee scope incision, not the machete scapel.

Qdos
25-08-2009, 17:00
I had keyhole surgery in 2005, there are no scars whatsoever visible, and I guess I'll be repeating the experience this autumn now that it's flared up again - although in all honesty, it's been far worse since the original surgery than it was before I began... :rolleyes: