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robertmf
22-08-2009, 23:36
Tarantino has a new movie release - his alternate-history version of WWII occupied France. Seems to be payback time for Germans.
Inglourious Basterds (2009) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361748/)

robertmf
23-08-2009, 00:15
Is Inglourious Basterds director Quentin Tarantino all washed up—or just hitting his stride? - By Dennis Lim - Slate Magazine (http://www.slate.com/default.aspx?id=2225814)

Quentin Tarantino concludes his seventh feature, the Nazi-bludgeoning :boxing: fantasy Inglourious Basterds, with a grisly flourish and a self-satisfied review. Having performed one of his signature mutilations, a character peers down at his handiwork and into the camera and declares: "This might just be my masterpiece." This is typical Tarantino bluster, in keeping with the image of the bratty wunderkind that he worked hard to cultivate and that, even at 46, he refuses to outgrow. But as the rare filmmaker who's also an avid reader of film reviews, he also surely knows that it's been a while since the critical establishment thought of him as a maker of masterpieces.

mattology
23-08-2009, 20:16
And, how is it? Worth seeing?

I think after Kill Bill 1+2 and Pulp Fiction, can't quite believe he's speaking about a masterpiece?

Judge
23-08-2009, 22:01
I haven't seen the film yet(waiting for a decent download)but from what I hear it's okish.
There are few decent films out right now... Public Enemies.
Public Enemies (2009) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/)

and District 9 looks cool.
District 9 (2009) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1136608/)

robertmf
24-08-2009, 00:11
And, how is it? Worth seeing?

I think after Kill Bill 1+2 and Pulp Fiction, can't quite believe he's speaking about a masterpiece?

Not to mention the :ak: Grindhouse retro double feature.

Vratar
24-08-2009, 00:17
If so, what theatre? Thanks

drbobguy
24-08-2009, 02:17
Inglorious Bastards is playing at 35mm (on Pokrovka) in English with Russian subtitles (no dubbing!). The subtitles are kind of a crappy color though, so it might be somewhat frustrating for non-English speakers.

Also, the German/French portions are subbed in Russian (which is probably 1/3 to 1/2 of the dialogue), so if you can't read Russian it will be very frustrating to follow.

IGIT
24-08-2009, 11:25
Is the movie any good?

exprumos
24-08-2009, 16:48
I saw it on Friday, and can still not answer the question - Is it any good.

First the good news. This is not a Brad Pitt vehicle, contrary to the trailers you have seen.

It is brilliant in places, and maddeningly frustrating in places. It had the potential to be a classic, because Tarantino is a genius, but it needed someone else to edit the movie and bring it down to a reasonable length and take out the waffle.

ezik
24-08-2009, 20:07
Not to mention the :ak: Grindhouse retro double feature.

Oh that movie was completely without any script, wasn't it? Still I don't mind mr Tarantino making a few flaws here and there. At least he has the courage to try and make something interesting. Do admit that after Jackie Brown, quality started lacking a bit.

Still have to see this one.

Swordfish90293
24-08-2009, 20:28
The picture opened bigger than any of Tarantino's previous films in 12 countries...

robertmf
26-08-2009, 04:09
The p2p cams have also seen Inglourious Basterds :) Look for a 1.3gb telesync by DEViSE for Russian subtitles. Other torrents have ENG subs. From the splash page, it looks as tho the new owner will be closing thepiratebay.com tracker website.

robertmf
26-08-2009, 06:35
The .torrent file by JinX is the best one currently available; and has hardcoded EN subs. It's telesync, so don't expect dvd quality. Certainly viewable, but not for keepers.

Inglourious_Basterds_TS_XVID_FULL_SUBS_JinX

Swordfish90293
26-08-2009, 08:48
Saw it last night. Creative decay. A little talkie especially since the dialog was also in large part in German and French at 35mm.

Vintage Tarantino. The German actress on the vet's table was reminescint of Darrel Hannah in Kill Bill.

Death to National Socialism!

Asheyd
27-08-2009, 16:30
I wasn't blown away by it but it's light entertainment.
Certainly not a masterpiece.

robertmf
27-08-2009, 16:46
Vintage Tarantino. The German actress on the vet's table was reminescint of Darrel Hannah in Kill Bill.

Try Salvadore Dali's short film "Un Chien Andalou" :smokin:

moscow77
27-08-2009, 18:05
it is not worth it to see it. i thought was very boring.

GaNozri
27-08-2009, 21:33
just watched it. the worst since Kill Bill. Quentin lost his touch.

etery
31-08-2009, 14:55
well, don't expect a masterpiece, and the movie is not about ww2 :)
this all is just way over the edge, tarantino made a true joke out of it
plus there are a lot of references to old movies we don't know about...

actually i have similar feelings after the movie like i had from Bruno :) only i liked this one more :))

robertmf
31-08-2009, 15:05
just watched it. the worst since Kill Bill. Quentin lost his touch.

For all the "hype" around Tarantino films, I've yet to see one that IMhO is any good, for my tastes, of course. Perhaps he targets the 20-somethings with the gratuitous violence ?

Viola
31-08-2009, 15:17
For all the "hype" around Tarantino films, I've yet to see one that IMhO is any good, for my tastes, of course. Perhaps he targets the 20-somethings with the gratuitous violence ?


Of all his films I only like Pulp Fiction. IMO it's an excellent black comedy, a parody on modern movies.

ArtOzz
31-08-2009, 16:05
Does anyone know where to see it with English subtitles (when the actors speak German and French)? I saw it at 35mm but obviously couldn't understand half of it ...

cheers

robertmf
31-08-2009, 21:48
Does anyone know where to see it with English subtitles (when the actors speak German and French)? I saw it at 35mm but obviously couldn't understand half of it ...

cheers
Beats me. I torrent'd a cam version with the FR and GER subs.

Judge
31-08-2009, 22:49
Like Rob, All I can find is a dodgy cam with russian subs.

Bels
31-08-2009, 22:58
Listening to you lot and reading what is it about , I am not going to bother watching it. At first I thought it was al about the war and occupation of France. At that time the fighting had nothing to do with American jews. To be honest I just can't be bothered watching such crap. But there is a need for a genuine war film of what really happened and how it felt like with the French being occupied. And how on earth did it happen. When that film arrives it will be a great film. But please!! No American involvement. They weren't even there.

anodyne
08-09-2009, 12:35
I have a difficult time imagining that in 2009 there still hasn't been an actual movie made about "what it was really like in occupied France.

Come on, people, this was a fantasy that was set in World War II! Next people will be criticizing "1984" for the fact that there was no Ministry of Truth in a global superstate called Oceania. Yeesh.

The movie was three hours long, and while I noticed it was long, I didn't notice that it was *that* long, so I'd give it a cautious thumbs up. That said, I'm sure the dialogue is much snappier in English than it was for me in Russian. I think Tarantino looses a lot in translation.

robertmf
08-09-2009, 21:26
But there is a need for a genuine war film of what really happened and how it felt like with the French being occupied. And how on earth did it happen. When that film arrives it will be a great film.

I suspect that neither the Germans nor the French want such a (documentary) movie to be made. There is plenty of archival footage available.

Eastwood could have done it as a follow-up to his Letters From Iwo Jima ? But he is too old now to take on new projects :(

Sasha girl
08-09-2009, 23:38
Hi All

I have not seen the movie.
Just wanted to comment: by accident I have watched one of the comic English programmes, where Tarantino was invited.

He had a long speech on the movie idea living in in his mind for a long time and finally been ready to action with this.

I would say that was boring, but then he became very funny answering to the presenter on where collaboration with Brad Pitt comes from. As per the programme: ...he always wanted to work with Brad Pitt, but didn't know where to fit him in. He came to see Brad in France with a long dinner and red wine, from Brad Pitt's own vinergard.. bla-bla...he enjoied wine. Welcome for viewing...

I will watch out of curiosity. I don't expect reallity in it, but would like to see Tarantino's approach (IMHO).

With regards to WW2 movies, Russian (Soviet Union) movies do leave a strong psycho effect after.

Timbuk
10-09-2009, 17:29
...he always wanted to work with Brad Pitt, but didn't know where to fit him in. He came to see Brad in France with a long dinner and red wine, from Brad Pitt's own vinergard.. bla-bla...he enjoied wine. Welcome for viewing...


I think next time he should come to Russia, have a long dinner with a lot of vodka and make some masterpiece about Russian heroes finally :thumbsup:

OlgaT
10-09-2009, 17:59
Of all his films I only like Pulp Fiction. IMO it's an excellent black comedy, a parody on modern movies.
I adore Four Rooms - one of the best comedy I've ever seen. :farout:

Viola
10-09-2009, 18:10
I adore Four Rooms - one of the best comedy I've ever seen. :farout:

For you,

YouTube- COMBUSTIBLE EDISON - Vertigogo

OlgaT
10-09-2009, 19:49
For you,


Thanks for the song, it's great. The same phantasmagoric as the movie. :reindeer:

franzewich
10-09-2009, 22:48
I left the theater about halfway through the movie: Gross, boring, incomprehensible (language), stereotypical. Not a genuine Tarantino, therefore I was very disappointed. Frustrating to see that a director, who made wonderfully square fictitious movies, slips badly at the attempt to bring real historical characters into the plot - very poorly done with an absolute lack of comprehension of what German fascism was all about! If this movie is NOT supposed to be about fascism, as some say - why bother putting the act into the old and worn out fascist context? Why not keep the whole thing ficticious including the setting? And a "comedy"??? Sorry, not funny!
What I saw were simply "deja vu" scenes from other movies sewn together with a rough thread. First an SS-Sturmbandführer exterminates a Jewish family (to get the anti-Nazi adrenalin level nicely up - wouldn't we have guessed it!?), and then a horde of crazed Jewish outlaws is murdering captive German soldiers to get their kicks out of personal revenge. And so the movie kept stumbling on and on - gung-ho, cheap and disgusting!
I'm not even interested to know any more how it ended.

lilishaq
10-09-2009, 22:55
[QUOTE=franzewich;573805]I left the theater about halfway through the movie: Gross, boring, incomprehensible (language), stereotypical. Not a genuine Tarantino, therefore I was very disappointed. Frustrating to see that a director, who made wonderfully square fictitious movies, slips badly at the attempt to bring real historical characters into the plot - very poorly done with an absolute lack of comprehension of what German fascism was all about! If this movie is NOT supposed to be about fascism, as some say - why bother putting the act into the old and worn out fascist context? Why not keep the whole thing ficticious including the setting? And a "comedy"??? Sorry, not funny!
What I saw were simply "deja vu" scenes from other movies sewn together with a rough thread. First an SS-Sturmbandführer exterminates a Jewish family (to get the anti-Nazi adrenalin level nicely up - wouldn't we have guessed it!?), and then a horde of crazed Jewish outlaws is murdering captive German soldiers to get their kicks out of personal revenge. And so the movie kept stumbling on and on - gung-ho, cheap and disgusting!
I'm not even interested to know any more how it ended.[/QUOtoe


Have you seen the movie in Moscow? I'm new here can you please tell me where to see English Language movies?
Thanks

franzewich
10-09-2009, 23:02
At the 35mm, Ul. Pokrovka, Dom 47/24, Tel. 9171883. Take Metro to Kurskaya, walk a couple of blocks north on the Garden Ring, about a 10min walk, then near the street corner on the left side.
Have fun!

pjw
10-09-2009, 23:13
I left the theater about halfway through the movie.....I'm not even interested to know any more how it ended.Sounds rather much like you were not particularly impressed with the first half of IB Roland. Yes a friend told me that the second half of the movie was much better than the first.
Have you seen the movie in Moscow? I'm new here can you please tell me where to see English Language movies?Hi Lilishaq, I just searched for all forum threads that mentioned cinemas showing movies in English (http://www.expat.ru/forum/search.php?searchid=518128). Just scroll down and click on each thread. Hope it helps answer your question.

robertmf
10-09-2009, 23:57
At the 35mm, Ul. Pokrovka, Dom 47/24, Tel. 9171883. Take Metro to Kurskaya, walk a couple of blocks north on the Garden Ring, about a 10min walk, then near the street corner on the left side.
Have fun!

Is this 35mm the name of the theatre or are the movies, literally, in 35mm off a bootleg reel :question:

Viola
11-09-2009, 10:01
Is this 35mm the name of the theatre or are the movies, literally, in 35mm off a bootleg reel :question:

It's the name of the theatre 35mm (http://www.kino35mm.ru/)

Chewing Gum
13-09-2009, 09:39
I left the theater about halfway through the movie: Gross, boring, incomprehensible (language), stereotypical. Not a genuine Tarantino, therefore I was very disappointed. Frustrating to see that a director, who made wonderfully square fictitious movies, slips badly at the attempt to bring real historical characters into the plot - very poorly done with an absolute lack of comprehension of what German fascism was all about! If this movie is NOT supposed to be about fascism, as some say - why bother putting the act into the old and worn out fascist context? Why not keep the whole thing ficticious including the setting? And a "comedy"??? Sorry, not funny!
What I saw were simply "deja vu" scenes from other movies sewn together with a rough thread. First an SS-Sturmbandführer exterminates a Jewish family (to get the anti-Nazi adrenalin level nicely up - wouldn't we have guessed it!?), and then a horde of crazed Jewish outlaws is murdering captive German soldiers to get their kicks out of personal revenge. And so the movie kept stumbling on and on - gung-ho, cheap and disgusting!
I'm not even interested to know any more how it ended.

i hadnt documented myself on the movie at first, and my jaw fell out when i saw the consecutive fictuous scenes happening... it took a while but i appreciated the irony in the movie... and brad pitt as the italian guy is just hilarious - what a good actor he really is !!

robertmf
13-09-2009, 17:31
I left the theater about halfway through the movie: Gross, boring, incomprehensible (language), stereotypical. Not a genuine Tarantino, therefore I was very disappointed. Frustrating to see that a director, who made wonderfully square fictitious movies, slips badly at the attempt to bring real historical characters into the plot - very poorly done with an absolute lack of comprehension of what German fascism was all about! If this movie is NOT supposed to be about fascism, as some say - why bother putting the act into the old and worn out fascist context? Why not keep the whole thing ficticious including the setting? And a "comedy"??? Sorry, not funny!
What I saw were simply "deja vu" scenes from other movies sewn together with a rough thread. First an SS-Sturmbandführer exterminates a Jewish family (to get the anti-Nazi adrenalin level nicely up - wouldn't we have guessed it!?), and then a horde of crazed Jewish outlaws is murdering captive German soldiers to get their kicks out of personal revenge. And so the movie kept stumbling on and on - gung-ho, cheap and disgusting!
I'm not even interested to know any more how it ended.

:11629: I agree совсем.

annakuznetsova
16-09-2009, 09:20
Hi All

I have not seen the movie.
Just wanted to comment: by accident I have watched one of the comic English programmes, where Tarantino was invited.

He had a long speech on the movie idea living in in his mind for a long time and finally been ready to action with this.

I would say that was boring, but then he became very funny answering to the presenter on where collaboration with Brad Pitt comes from. As per the programme: ...he always wanted to work with Brad Pitt, but didn't know where to fit him in. He came to see Brad in France with a long dinner and red wine, from Brad Pitt's own vinergard.. bla-bla...he enjoied wine. Welcome for viewing...

I will watch out of curiosity. I don't expect reallity in it, but would like to see Tarantino's approach (IMHO).

With regards to WW2 movies, Russian (Soviet Union) movies do leave a strong psycho effect after.

I went to watch this movie with my best female friend. And it was horrible. I liked Tarantino, but the gratuitous violence was over the top! It made me just sick. I don't know how anyone can consider this art. It's just ugly. :vomit:

dav
16-09-2009, 10:03
Tarantino's usual pop art kino shlock and attempt to shock. Boring