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Claude Bottom
04-10-2004, 16:27
Do any investors frequent this site ?

Briefly, I'm an ex Oracle (high level IT) professional with a low cost idea which I believe will make money. The idea will take 3-4 months to develop (at extremely low cost) - I've yet to conduct a marketing survey but having worked in the industry am convinced that the idea would sell and be profitable. We are talking of less than $10k investment capital for a 50% share in the profits, with the first $10k going straight in the investors' pocket.

Anyone interested please provide your mail address below.

Best regards
Dave

PS I rarely check this site, so - patience, please.

ghost 6-3
04-10-2004, 16:41
Dave UK Again, again

Maine Surfer
04-10-2004, 17:19
Dave, you look good with the hat :)

kostyasamoilov@hotmail.com

Claude Bottom
04-10-2004, 18:07
Thanks, Maine - just passing by ! Yep, Ghost, Dave UK again - when an ex IT professional says he has a workable business idea, it's occaisionally worth listening to him. Think this is one of these occaisions ?

Ned Kelly
04-10-2004, 18:24
what's the russia connection dave? or you just scouting for investors in general?

Claude Bottom
04-10-2004, 18:31
Investors in general, Ned. No Russian connections anymore with me - I used to work in Oracle training (highly specialised stuff, big money) and I'm writing up some Oracle training courseware, which is gold dust for a tech training company wishing to break into the big money. Do a search for "Oracle DBA training" and you'll see what typical costs are involved. Dave here has a full set of manuals written up for an Oracle DBA part 1 course - need a few months (and minor capital investment) to turn it into 9i - latest version. The real problem is that whilst I'm a techie, I've got no marketing skills or contacts..... but. Believe me, it's a money maker, and that's from someone who used to be a tech specialist .

Sorry, er, for the big reply - the manuals are somewhat more concise. ;-)))) What did you expect, eh ? ;-))

Maine Surfer
04-10-2004, 18:32
Originally posted by Claude Bottom
Investors in general, Ned. No Russian connections anymore with me - I used to work in Oracle training (highly specialised stuff, big money) and I'm writing up some Oracle training courseware, which is gold dust for a tech training company wishing to break into the big money. Do a search for "Oracle DBA training" and you'll see what typical costs are involved. Dave here has a full set of manuals written up for an Oracle DBA part 1 course - need a few months (and minor capital investment) to turn it into 9i - latest version. The real problem is that whilst I'm a techie, I've got no marketing skills or contacts..... but. Believe me, it's a money maker, and that's from someone who used to be a tech specialist .

Sorry, er, for the big reply - the manuals are somewhat more concise. ;-)))) What did you expect, eh ? ;-))

Dave I expected diamonds, lotsa diamonds :) Just kidding

Ned Kelly
04-10-2004, 18:50
Originally posted by Claude Bottom
Sorry, er, for the big reply

wouldn't have it any other way.

have to admit i only understood the "the's and which's" but i'm sure it's a terrific idea.

bari
04-10-2004, 19:16
hritesh_baruri@hotmail.com




Originally posted by Claude Bottom
Do any investors frequent this site ?

Briefly, I'm an ex Oracle (high level IT) professional with a low cost idea which I believe will make money. The idea will take 3-4 months to develop (at extremely low cost) - I've yet to conduct a marketing survey but having worked in the industry am convinced that the idea would sell and be profitable. We are talking of less than $10k investment capital for a 50% share in the profits, with the first $10k going straight in the investors' pocket.

Anyone interested please provide your mail address below.

Best regards
Dave

PS I rarely check this site, so - patience, please.

Claude Bottom
04-10-2004, 20:25
Originally posted by Ned Kelly
wouldn't have it any other way.

have to admit i only understood the "the's and which's" but i'm sure it's a terrific idea.

Cheers, Ned. Should work...... got a lot of experience in Oracle training (and of course Oracle administration) - high level IT training never comes cheap.....

Crazyeelboy
17-10-2004, 13:24
Claude Bottom-

Are you looking for investments of less than $10K for this? That seems suspiciously low - most investors I know would wonder why you could not raise that kind of money from other sources (for example, a loan from a bank).

Claude Bottom
17-10-2004, 19:00
Originally posted by Crazyeelboy
Claude Bottom-

Are you looking for investments of less than $10K for this? That seems suspiciously low - most investors I know would wonder why you could not raise that kind of money from other sources (for example, a loan from a bank).

OK, so I'll accept $100k, then. ;-))))

There's nothing "suspicious" about it - it just doesn't require a huge capital investment. Surprisingly, not all ideas do. Send me $100k if you prefer, but I'll accept $10k, which is a fair assessment of the amount needed. I'm working, yes, I could go off and get a loan, and then sink $10k into an idea which relies on me then marketing it. I have no marketing skills and contacts and I'm not prepared to just give the idea away to a marketing bod who can sell it behind my back. My expertise is to produce the goods, their expertise is to sell them. They can recoup their investment - $10k - first from the profits, and the rest are shared. Tell me why I should produce something marketable for nothing ?

Crazyeelboy
18-10-2004, 09:25
Dear Claude Bottom:

It sounds like you need a partner to do the marketing more than you need an investor to give you $10,000.

I think you misunderstood my comments about the amount. All I was saying is that serious investors are not usually willing to put small amounts of money into something when the entrepreneur is not willing to do so on their own. In any event, if you really think that this thing will turn the kinds of profits you mentioned, it would be "cheaper" for you to just borrow the money from a bank and then hire marketing expertise (generally, giving equity interest to an investor is one of the more "expensive" ways to finance a project if it takes off). Let's say this project nets you $100K - giving away a 50% stake will ultimately cost you $50K while a loan will cost you only $10K (plus interest).

Claude Bottom
18-10-2004, 12:55
Yep, read all that, but the fact of the matter is that this involves copyrights and Oracle training manuals are notorious for being poached. Why produce something - spending months over it - then get it distributed and stolen ? Which is, let's face it, what will happen.

$10k ? Easy way of explaining it - if I meet another penniless middleman passing himself off as a "marketer" then I'll probably faint. It's a "reality test".

You're right, I could do this myself (except for the time constraints on me at the moment) - but to be quite honest, a new IT job came up a few days ago and I don't have the time or the inclination at the moment. Maybe later. Maybe not at all. ;-)))

Claude Bottom
18-10-2004, 12:55
PS Agreed with everything you said, too - but there's more than one way to skin a cat. ;-))))))

Crazyeelboy
18-10-2004, 13:04
Good point about the "middlemen" and penniless marketers - tons of snake oil salesmen out there, especially for small projects.

Here is one idea - try to develop the product to a tangible level (protecting your intellectual property rights) and then see if you could sell it to a big player to let them market it (you could sell it outright, or take on-going royalties). This way, you can focus on your strengths and you don't have to worry about the marketing, etc.