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Kvartiraokhotnik
21-10-2008, 15:40
Joe Biden has an interesting prediction for us....

Political Radar: Biden to Supporters: "Gird Your Loins", For the Next President "It's Like Cleaning Augean Stables" (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html)

"It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

A ''generated'' crisis.....maybe in the Middle East or Russia...one that sounds like it may be a conflict, seeing as its not going to be apparent that Biden and Obama will be morally right.

Then again, its never been apparent to me how Iraq and Afghanistan are ''morally right'', so perhaps the next ''justified'' act of aggression will be lost on me too.

What do you reckon expats? Are Obama and Biden soon gonna be in a conflict and drumming up support?? Or will it be something else? Or is Biden speaking out of his rear end? Always nice to hear your views :)

Transparent Theatre
21-10-2008, 15:51
"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

I've been saying for a long time now that there is NO DIFFERENCE between the policies of Obama and McCain.

Both are hawkish, both are warmongers, and both would bomb Russia in a heartbeat if they thought there were votes in it.

DDT
21-10-2008, 21:10
I agree that the difference between Obama and McCain are few when it comes to international politics. But on domestic affairs Obama is a Marxist through and through and is the extreme far left of the Democratic Party. That's why the republicans have been raising so many questions about Ayres, ACORN, Wright, Rezko, Farakan, Marzook, Auchi, Meeks and Khalid etc..etc. It's not because of "guilt by association", we already know he is guilty of being a Marxist. It is because he hides and lies about who he is and what he really believes, pretending to be "moderate," in order to fool the fools. He is running his political campaign exactly as he was taught to by his early Marxist mentors.

I think Biden's statement was only designed to dispel fears that Obama was weak and inexperienced. But he did come across in a strange way!

Kvartiraokhotnik
21-10-2008, 21:28
I agree that the difference between Obama and McCain are few when it comes to international politics. But on domestic affairs Obama is a Marxist through and through and is the extreme far left of the Democratic Party. That's why the republicans have been raising so many questions about Ayres, ACORN, Wright, Rezko, Farakan, Marzook, Auchi, Meeks and Khalid etc..etc. It's not because of "guilt by association", we already know he is guilty of being a Marxist. It is because he hides and lies about who he is and what he really believes, pretending to be "moderate," in order to fool the fools. He is running his political campaign exactly as he was taught to by his early Marxist mentors.

I think Biden's statement was only designed to dispel fears that Obama was weak and inexperienced. But he did come across in a strange way!

We'll see how strange it is, when its 6 months into Obamas presidency, and an international crisis occurs. If it does, we know that yet again it has indeed been ''generated'' and by those with special interests.

Carbo
22-10-2008, 11:22
I agree that the difference between Obama and McCain are few when it comes to international politics. But on domestic affairs Obama is a Marxist through and through and is the extreme far left of the Democratic Party. That's why the republicans have been raising so many questions about Ayres, ACORN, Wright, Rezko, Farakan, Marzook, Auchi, Meeks and Khalid etc..etc. It's not because of "guilt by association", we already know he is guilty of being a Marxist. It is because he hides and lies about who he is and what he really believes, pretending to be "moderate," in order to fool the fools. He is running his political campaign exactly as he was taught to by his early Marxist mentors.

I think Biden's statement was only designed to dispel fears that Obama was weak and inexperienced. But he did come across in a strange way!
I think calling Obama a Marxist is trolling. It's an absurd comment.

I think Bush is a communist then, and I bet I have more evidence than you.

Transparent Theatre
22-10-2008, 11:35
I think calling Obama a Marxist is trolling. It's an absurd comment.


Of course it's trolling. It's DDT - the resident forum troll.

Complain to the Mods. If enough of us do so, maybe something will be done??

Kvartiraokhotnik
22-10-2008, 18:42
Of course it's trolling. It's DDT - the resident forum troll.

Complain to the Mods. If enough of us do so, maybe something will be done??

I dont think thats necessary. He aint rude to people, he just says absurd and contradictory things, which discredit his position. I say, let him natter his incomprehensible and wild islamophobia. Its like watching a 15 year old skinhead explain why they are a racist. Inevitably, they end up discrediting themselves.

DDT
22-10-2008, 23:15
I think calling Obama a Marxist is trolling. It's an absurd comment.

I think Bush is a communist then, and I bet I have more evidence than you.
If you don't understand why I and MOST of the anti-Obama crowd out there report that Obama is a Marxist, then I'm afraid that I have overestimated you and the ability to see both sides of a coin. Don't tell me that this news is a surprise for you. I can only assume that you have never really investigated and analyzed Obama or even watched one TV news panel discussion, such as CNN & FOX. That IS surprising! Haven't I already posted many links to Obama's Marxist mentors? Must I repost everything? Apparently you have no idea for whom you blindly give your support to or you are so far bent to the Left that you see Marxism as "moderate." I suspect it is the latter. It's funny how lefties never seem to know their true position on the political chart. (or what a troll is. Apparently to some it is anyone who disagrees with them. Or is it simply those possessing knowledge that you don't have?)

A word of advice for all the "forward thinking" Liberals. Try actually understanding your political opponents' arguments once in a while, you may find out you are not as far Left as you think.

Tell me. You don't think, that taxing the rich at a far higher percentage rate in order to "Spread the wealth around" is not Marxist?

Kvartiraokhotnik
22-10-2008, 23:30
If you don't understand why I and MOST of the anti-Obama crowd out there report that Obama is a Marxist, then I'm afraid that I have overestimated you and the ability to see both sides of a coin. Don't tell me that this news is a surprise for you. I can only assume that you have never really investigated and analyzed Obama or even watched one TV news panel discussion, such as CNN & FOX. That IS surprising! Haven't I already posted many links to Obama's Marxist mentors? Must I repost everything? Apparently you have no idea for whom you blindly give your support to or you are so far bent to the Left that you see Marxism as "moderate." I suspect it is the latter. It's funny how lefties never seem to know their true position on the political chart. (or what a troll is. Apparently to some it is anyone who disagrees with them. Or is it simply those possessing knowledge that you don't have?)

A word of advice for all the "forward thinking" Liberals. Try actually understanding your political opponents' arguments once in a while, you may find out you are not as far Left as you think.

Personally, I think Obama is just as marxist as mccain, in the very real sense that they both want world socialism, in the form of a global governement and financial system. They may deny it, but their policies are both aimed at hastening it. Only Ron Paul represented the ''other side'' of American public opinion...a firm stance on independence and non intervention as well as money backed by hard assets.

As for forward thinking liberals, I aint one of them. I'm a conspiracy nutter. Thats neither left nor right.

I dont know if theres a space on the left right spectrum DDT for your strange and unpredictable anti-jihadi militant stance.

Transparent Theatre
22-10-2008, 23:32
. I can only assume that you have never really investigated and analyzed Obama or even watched one TV news panel discussion, such as CNN & FOX.

I can only assume you haven't a f*cking clue what Marxism is.

DDT
22-10-2008, 23:48
I can only assume you haven't a f*cking clue what Marxism is.
People who take the time to read detailed articles on Obama's early career in Chicago will easily discover that he was more associated with marxism, socialism or communism than anything else. Of course, once he got his political career moving by using the people and resources from his more anti-capitalism days he created a whole new image. He has said nothing honest in this presidential campaign about his early Chicago days.

DDT
22-10-2008, 23:52
Personally, I think Obama is just as marxist as mccain, in the very real sense that they both want world socialism, in the form of a global governement and financial system. They may deny it, but their policies are both aimed at hastening it. Only Ron Paul represented the ''other side'' of American public opinion...a firm stance on independence and non intervention as well as money backed by hard assets.

As for forward thinking liberals, I aint one of them. I'm a conspiracy nutter. Thats neither left nor right.

I dont know if theres a space on the left right spectrum DDT for your strange and unpredictable anti-jihadi militant stance.
You don't understand my politics? It;s true that I can't be pigeon-holed.
Ron Paul would be my choice for President, but I don't necessarily agree with everything he says either.

Transparent Theatre
23-10-2008, 00:04
It;s true that I can't be pigeon-holed.

But we can get them to fly over you.

Scrat335
23-10-2008, 06:38
If you don't understand why I and MOST of the anti-Obama crowd out there report that Obama is a Marxist, then I'm afraid that I have overestimated you and the ability to see both sides of a coin. Don't tell me that this news is a surprise for you. I can only assume that you have never really investigated and analyzed Obama or even watched one TV news panel discussion, such as CNN & FOX. That IS surprising!

I sure as hell don't understand where you get this. It seems one statement of Karl Marx is bearing fruit, that which says capitalism will collapse in on itself due to its own greed.

As for a test on Obama I am sure that it will come, if not manufactured abroad it will certainly be manufactured by powers here. I have a feeling they will bomb somebody for some reason. I strongly suspect he will take a jab at Russia for the slightest of reasons to make himself look really tough.