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sambo sam
17-10-2008, 15:14
Hi everyone,

I've been in Moscow for about two months now and I'm desperate to find somewhere to learn/train Sambo or Judo. I live in Partizanskaya so anywhere local would be good. Does anyone know of any teachers or clubs that might take on a student who doesn't speak much Russian?

C210
23-10-2008, 16:56
... or anybody who just wants to train without a gym maybe. i am new to moscow - 3 days here. but am desperate to find some form of fight training. have wrestling/ sub wrestling and some boxing training

beserg
18-11-2008, 12:18
There's an old Soviet gym at Petrovka where you can get training in Russian unarmed combat, muai thai and whatnot.
The place is old and run down though, shitty showers etc.

Not sure if the instructors speak any English, but as the Soviet Army saying goes: "If you can't do it, we'll teach you, if you don't want to, we'll make you".

TropicalFish
18-11-2008, 13:16
They say the best sambo organization in Moscow is Sambo-70 -70 (http://www.sambo-70.ru/),
however located a bit inconveniently near MKAD, metro Teply Stan area.

There are also some similar classes at Jumpfitness, metro Krasnopresnenskaya ( - Jump (http://www.jumpfitness.ru/about.html)) which are quite expensive for club non-members - 800 rubles per cl**** so maybe you'll consider purchase full membership

Unfortunately, I don't believe trainers speak much English there (

I guess you could just ask a Russian-speaking friend search web for a club close to your place, there must be lots of them in the city

Korotky Gennady
19-11-2008, 02:44
Sorry for off-topic... but as it to me in the times before I often thought about what is the real effective system of self-defence. And unfortunetly I don't know one. They told me that boxing is not much effective. The guys who studied Judo told me that Judo is not good too... Not long ago I heard from one man that Sambo is not suited for a real "night street' fight too.

beserg
19-11-2008, 10:00
That guy is a sambo wrestler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko
and who can safely assert he is an inefficient fighter )))

Korotky Gennady
19-11-2008, 18:43
That guy is a sambo wrestler Fedor Emelianenko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko)
and who can safely assert he is an inefficient fighter )))I said only what that a few people told me.


If Fedor is about 100 kg of weight, he could be a "night steets" effecient fighter, even if he never studied Sambo as the System of self-defence...


We are talking about self-defence here... yeah ?

The problem is how much Sambo (and other self-defence systems) are effective in general for your defence from hooligans ?

beserg
19-11-2008, 19:17
Very effective as long as you are good at it ))

Like with most other combat styles. A good puncher will beat the crap out of a poor wrestler and an experienced and agile wrestler will tie an undertrained puncher into a knot ))
That's why most applied styles incorporate punching and wrestling techniques, including combat sambo.

Korotky Gennady
19-11-2008, 19:38
Hm... Maybe. I don't know.


I didn't have my personal experience in it.


From what I've seen on tv-screen I can say that only mix-fight impressed me much becoz it looked like something very real...


So it's interesting what kind of training do CIA- and KGB-agents get through ? I don't think that they could study something not very effective ?

Kraven Morehead
30-11-2008, 05:56
KGB and elite Russian forces get trained in Sambo.
What also depends is your body size and type and what is your opposition.
I have trained in so many that it is just stupid.
Classes, go there and find out if the class and instructor is your type.
I had one instructor who was a freak. He would deliberately hurt students to see if they can take pain in real life.
Had another that fell asleep in his class.

Kereal
30-11-2008, 18:02
My friends of course real fight completely different from training but still Fedor is originally sambo's fighter and another Russian genius fighter Oleg Taktarov as well. I think that real training of sambo can definitely prepare for many street "occasions". There are a lot clubs in Moscow but I don't think that instructors speak English there. Try to use some of these links (http://www.aha.ru/~mossambo/index.htm)
(http://samboms.narod.ru/)
- , , , , (http://www.russianjudo.ru/index.php)

Another thing as you can try if you want to prepare for a real fight - "Fight Clubs"
RFC. . FIGHT CLUB - (http://www.r-f-c.org/)
(http://www.ydar.ru/)
Couple of times I visited them, many people are not professionals there, so don't be scare to visit them for first time :-)
Good luck and take care :-)

Ivan Durak
01-12-2008, 12:23
First of all, if you're lookking at self-defense, avoid martial arts and go for combat sports.

Out of these, Boxing, kick-boxing, sambo and the like are common in Moscow. Lot's of clubs. Krav maga is becoming well-known in Europe but I don't know about Russia.

However, these "sports" help only if you train regularly, and for at least a year or two (two or three training sessions a week). Even then, self-defense is only self defense. If some guys attack you with knives or guns, your bare hands won't help you much.

Harvallen
01-12-2008, 13:05
Go for combat sambo if you want to be able to defend against possible hoodlum attacks. As said before some of the best mixed martial artists are combat sambo specialists such as Emelianenko and Arlovski. Especially Emelianenko is bad ass. He recently took out a former American heavyweight mixed martial artist champion (Tim Sylvia) in under 36 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb7oTrmmKPk

Harvallen
01-12-2008, 13:35
I said only what that a few people told me.


If Fedor is about 100 kg of weight, he could be a "night steets" effecient fighter, even if he never studied Sambo as the System of self-defence...


We are talking about self-defence here... yeah ?

The problem is how much Sambo (and other self-defence systems) are effective in general for your defence from hooligans ?

The focus of Sambo is on (kick)boxing and submissions. Hoodlums almost never come alone so the (kick)boxing part is crucial. Hurt one as bad as you can but keep a general oversight of the situation. Submission fighting will never work against a group. When your busy doing an armbar someone else might be kicking in your face.