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Tatiana cat
21-07-2004, 18:17
That's again me with difficult questions...

So, what's the root of all evil? How would you answer?

jheisel
21-07-2004, 18:19
girls. someone will gladly produce the diagram for you explaining this, I'm sure.

DJ Biscuit
21-07-2004, 18:20
Religion.

Random
21-07-2004, 18:21
Boar House after 11 pm !! :D

Tatiana cat
21-07-2004, 18:23
DJ, any explanation?

Random
21-07-2004, 18:25
A refresh - Women are Evil as is proven by math

Women = Time & Money

As we all know Time = Money

thus Women = Money squared

but again Money is the root of evil

Ipso Facto

Women = Evil

Tatiana cat
21-07-2004, 18:25
Originally posted by Random
Boar House after 11 pm !! :D

It's dangerous much earlier... No Boar House for me any more...

DJ Biscuit
21-07-2004, 18:32
Plenty,and not enough time or space here,however.....


If you go back through history and look at the contemporary world what is it that seperates people from one another,what makes them mistrust one another, go to war, killiing inocent people?

What could be more evil than using belief systems to enslave people, trick them into working for nothing, live in slum conditions, pay all their money to the rich, the church and state?

Human cruelty, deceipt, and divisions are based here.

Since time began we have used belief, faith, mystisism, religion, call it what you will to control others. One makes up some god who is both forgiving, giving and cruel (hell anyone?) sells it to the others in the tribe, sets himself up as the link (church) and viola, control, slavery, poverty, riches, war, disease, depending on which side you are, and so on.

Tatiana cat
21-07-2004, 18:34
Random, if women = evil... why do you, men, need us?

Yes, money is the root of evil... that's for sure. But women???
Without women you can't do, actually...

Tatiana cat
21-07-2004, 18:38
DJ, thanks. That's right. I agree for 100%.

kak
21-07-2004, 19:18
Originally posted by DJ Biscuit
Plenty,and not enough time or space here,however.....


If you go back through history and look at the contemporary world what is it that seperates people from one another,what makes them mistrust one another, go to war, killiing inocent people?

What could be more evil than using belief systems to enslave people, trick them into working for nothing, live in slum conditions, pay all their money to the rich, the church and state?

Human cruelty, deceipt, and divisions are based here.

Since time began we have used belief, faith, mystisism, religion, call it what you will to control others. One makes up some god who is both forgiving, giving and cruel (hell anyone?) sells it to the others in the tribe, sets himself up as the link (church) and viola, control, slavery, poverty, riches, war, disease, depending on which side you are, and so on.


:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:

gadfly
21-07-2004, 20:42
DJ - but any system of beliefs can be used to get people to do things they wouldn't otherwise do. Ideologies are as bad as religion in this respect. Communism and fascism are the two most recent obvious examples, but even things like software piracy are a matter of belief rather than pursuant to some 'objective' or 'natural' system of rights.

Selfish people (like me) act in predictable ways and are never willing to risk their lives in wars that kill on a super-human scale. Only recently have we seen the development of weapons of mass destruction, but their development is funded by the un-missed taxes of complacent millions.

There are some people out there that just love to watch others suffer. Sadists. Child molesters, rapists, wife-beaters, and thugs fall into this category. I can't tell you if it's nature or nurture - there's the Phineas Gage story of the guy that lost his ability to consider morality:

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Again, however, the lines are blurred. Few here would kidnap a teenage girl and force her to have sex with dozens or hundreds of men. However, the market for the services of such girls is tremendous. If you live in Moscow, some of the people that fund this peculiar institution are probably your friends.

Ultimately, the universe can't tell you what is good and what is evil. Evil is a social phenomenon, and its nature varies upon context. I am not a moralist, but I consider John Stuart Mill to be my inspiration when deciding what is right and what is wrong.




Originally posted by DJ Biscuit
Plenty,and not enough time or space here,however.....


If you go back through history and look at the contemporary world what is it that seperates people from one another,what makes them mistrust one another, go to war, killiing inocent people?

What could be more evil than using belief systems to enslave people, trick them into working for nothing, live in slum conditions, pay all their money to the rich, the church and state?

Human cruelty, deceipt, and divisions are based here.

Since time began we have used belief, faith, mystisism, religion, call it what you will to control others. One makes up some god who is both forgiving, giving and cruel (hell anyone?) sells it to the others in the tribe, sets himself up as the link (church) and viola, control, slavery, poverty, riches, war, disease, depending on which side you are, and so on.

J.D.
21-07-2004, 22:10
If you check your sources a little closer you will find that it is not money that is the root of all evil it is the love of money that is the root of all evil.

Ispo facto

hocus pocus

women are not evil




but loving them is.

Kshisya
21-07-2004, 22:13
disappointments ;)

J.D.
21-07-2004, 22:16
that's what I said

Tatiana cat
21-07-2004, 22:56
My granny reckons that TV is the root of all evil...
And the computer...

IRS_Runner
22-07-2004, 01:59
Hormones :D

tbill
22-07-2004, 07:51
Evil is at the center of human nature. It exists in every one of us and to blame a particular institution, i.e. money, religion is to ignore the root of evil. If you want to use a religious analogy, it is original sin.

Witness the various Utopian experiments over the past 200+ years that have failed because they take no account of the tyranny of men. The success of the American and English models of democracy owe their longevity to the attempt to balance two impulses within human societies: the tyranny of the majority and the tyranny of the minority.

On the positive side of things, it was only a blink of geologic time ago that it was perfectly acceptable to smash in the skull of someone from the tribe over the hill. Now there are multiple multiethnic societies which are thriving. Some hope yet for us ugly bags of mostly water. :D

DJ Biscuit
22-07-2004, 12:33
Everything you say can be applied not to the last two hundred years but to the last three thousand!

It is true, as someone else wrote here that ideologies have created suffering and not just religion, but I stick with my original thought, religion and the general lie that there is some super force looking over us has caused more pain, blood spilling, torture, rape, sodomy, poverty, starvation, disease, and bankrupcy of anything resembling decent human moral behaviour than anything else.

The idea that there is a god is the root of all evil, ergo god is evil.

Sidney Bliss
22-07-2004, 12:34
Stock, Aitken & Waterman.

DJ Biscuit
22-07-2004, 12:43
Originally posted by Sidney Bliss
Stock, Aitken & Waterman.

:D

I think you'll find though Lennon and McCartney were writing some c**p long before them.

Sidney Bliss
22-07-2004, 12:47
Originally posted by DJ Biscuit
:D

I think you'll find though Lennon and McCartney were writing some c**p long before them.

And the less said about Huey Lewis & the News the better :D

lucytupper
22-07-2004, 22:36
Originally posted by DJ Biscuit
:D

I think you'll find though Lennon and McCartney were writing some c**p long before them.


That must be why they are STILL playing these classics after 40 years! Not to mention the influence The Beatles had on the recent past and the present day musicians.

Think before you write something so ridiculous next time!

pengwn9
23-07-2004, 00:42
He did think about it. How could he fail to think about it after he's been forced to listen to this worn out trivia for forty years??!!

Lucy, time to get rid of that record changer hi-fi. The transistor radio is all the rage now....

lucytupper
23-07-2004, 02:14
......and CD players. I hear that The Beatles are available on these little round discs. Amazin' isn't it?

lyndsay
26-07-2004, 11:55
is where it all begins

:p

DJ Biscuit
26-07-2004, 16:48
Originally posted by lucytupper
That must be why they are STILL playing these classics after 40 years! Not to mention the influence The Beatles had on the recent past and the present day musicians.

Think before you write something so ridiculous next time!

I see no evidence to prove that L&M did not write a load of rubbish, musical taste is a matter of opinion Lucy, you may find 'I wanna hold your hand' to be an inspiring classic I do not.

The fact that they still play these after 40 years does not automatically mean that anyone who does not like them is ridiculous. (Although I rarely hear them anywhere.)

Think before you push your social fascism on others.

Random
26-07-2004, 16:54
DJ can we include Boney M in that sweep - just because it's still played doesn't make it good !!

DJ Biscuit
26-07-2004, 17:01
Random, thank you - good point. Murder is still very popular, doesn't mean I should condone it. ;)

Zephyr
27-07-2004, 11:10
It is the state of course, and the force it wields.